Venky’s (& Suhail) Out Protest Ideas

[roversfan99]

27 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said:

Brilliant to watch though!

For us? He was predominantly frustrating.

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, KentExile said:

 

https://sportingintelligence832.substack.com/p/revealed-the-blackburn-files-from

 

 

Assume there is more to that article if you're a paying subscriber? 

None of it's a surprise, stuff we've known about for years on these boards. 

Are there any smoking guns in the cache of documents he mentions?

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

For us? He was predominantly frustrating.

The rest of the players weren't on his wavelength. 

He was on a completely different level altogether in the way he saw and read the game imo but it's hard to impress when you're not being picked. 

Had a look on Wiki and he still seems to be playing in Spain at age 34.

Bizarrely also heard Tim Vickery on Talksport a while ago say "Crocky" Santa Cruz was still playing somewhere in South America at age 41!

[RevidgeBlue]

Edit - Scrub that he's 44! 🤣

[G Somerset Rover]

Rochina looked like the penny had finally dropped and he'd be a world beater on the first day of the season back in 2013(?) - he then dislocated his shoulder in the same match and just never seemed to really kick on. One of those who will surely look back on his career and think he could have got way more out of it - like Dunn has admitted about himself. Rochina's natural ability was unreal.

[Jimmy612]

2 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Assume there is more to that article if you're a paying subscriber? 

None of it's a surprise, stuff we've known about for years on these boards. 

Are there any smoking guns in the cache of documents he mentions?

Some stuff I'd never seen. 

• Kean's contract, which started at £1m per year, rising to £2m by the 2015/16 season if still in the prem. 
• Letters from Anderson's legal team to Nick Harris / Associated Newspapers (i.e. Mail on Sunday, Daily Mail), distancing him from any wrongdoing.
• Shebby Singh's formal job offer - £400,000.00 per year, £3k housing allowance, company car etc. 
• Venky's legal letter to Kentaro threatening action.

Ultimately, it's all dated between 2010 and 2012. To anyone outside of Rovers supporters, it's probably just an amusing and extraordinary chapter and another example of the ridiculousness of football ownership. The FA or any regulatory bodies probably can't or won't do/prove anything. Most people I speak to who aren't Rovers fans say, 'are you still owned by the chicken people?'.  

It's only us, 15 years on who continue to see the damage it's done to our club.  And even then, there's plenty of Rovers fans who either never knew or have forgotten the whole saga, and now see Venky's as our life support. 

Interesting last sentence by the way... "The Rao family still own Blackburn. I know from people still close to them that ultimately they want to return Blackburn to the position they were in when they took over, and feel honour-bound to do so."

If that is the case, how simple could it be to appoint a competent, stable, knowledgeable CEO and invest sensibly and properly. Just a modicum of clarity and professionalism in the boardroom would go such a long way to repair 15 years of complete torment and disconnect. Someone who can engage with the fanbase and project a feeling of unity and ultimate progression. 

Chaos follows this club around, and it's ultimately the responsibility of the owners who just seem to bounce from one disaster to the next.

Edited 1 hour ago by Jimmy612

[davulsukur]

3 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

Some stuff I'd never seen. 

• Kean's contract, which started at £1m per year, rising to £2m by the 2015/16 season if still in the prem. 
• Letters from Anderson's legal team to Nick Harris / Associated Newspapers (i.e. Mail on Sunday, Daily Mail), distancing him from any wrongdoing.
• Shebby Singh's formal job offer - £400,000.00 per year, £3k housing allowance, company car etc. 
• Venky's legal letter to Kentaro threatening action.

Ultimately, it's all dated between 2010 and 2012. To anyone outside of Rovers supporters, it's probably just an amusing and extraordinary chapter and another example of the ridiculousness of football ownership. The FA or any regulatory bodies probably can't or won't do/prove anything. Most people I speak to who aren't Rovers fans say, 'are you still owned by the chicken people?'.  

It's only us, 15 years on who continue to see the damage it's done to our club.  And even then, there's plenty of Rovers fans who either never knew or have forgotten the whole saga, and now see Venky's as our life support. 

Interesting last sentence by the way... "The Rao family still own Blackburn. I know from people still close to them that ultimately they want to return Blackburn to the position they were in when they took over, and feel honour-bound to do so."

If that is the case, how simple could it be to appoint a competent, stable, knowledgeable CEO and invest sensibly and properly. Just a modicum of clarity and professionalism in the boardroom would go such a long way to repair 15 years of complete torment and disconnect. Someone who can engage with the fanbase and project a feeling of unity and ultimate progression. 

Chaos follows this club around, and it's ultimately the responsibility of the owners who just seem to bounce from one disaster to the next.

On the first bit in bold, i get the same from non-Rovers fans all the time. The response is always a mix of surprise, disbelief and laughter when they ask that question though.

On the second bit, you'll struggle to point to a single action they've taken in the last 15 years that suggests they want to restore us to any former glory.

[Jimmy612]

8 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

On the first bit in bold, i get the same from non-Rovers fans all the time. The response is always a mix of surprise, disbelief and laughter when they ask that question though.

On the second bit, you'll struggle to point to a single action they've taken in the last 15 years that suggests they want to restore us to any former glory.

Agreed.  And I continually arc back to the age old question, why do they continue to do it?  Even IF their intentions are good, were they/are they so frozen in fear and damaged by that first 2 years that they trust no-one outside of their own circle i.e. Suhail?  Okay, he wheels in the odd CEO or DOF like Waggott or Gestede, but ultimately he's their man.  

Are they so naive that they genuinely believe the current modus operandi will eventually lead to success/promotion?  

I actually reflect on what I perceived to be a chink of light at the time, the Broughton/JDT summer. It seemed to be a change of tack, maybe a novel approach of actually appointing football people.  Broughton's CV was an improvement on most other historical, senior appointments (albeit an incredibly low bar). Lo and behold 18 months later, they're in a legal battle with Indian authorities, the plan is in tatters and they have since appeared to retreat further than ever in to their shell. 

 

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

The rest of the players weren't on his wavelength. 

He was on a completely different level altogether in the way he saw and read the game imo but it's hard to impress when you're not being picked. 

Had a look on Wiki and he still seems to be playing in Spain at age 34.

Bizarrely also heard Tim Vickery on Talksport a while ago say "Crocky" Santa Cruz was still playing somewhere in South America at age 41!

He was the type of player who wanted a ball to himself, he would often take too long on the ball or make a wrong decision.

[alex l]

1 hour ago, Jimmy612 said:

 

Interesting last sentence by the way... "The Rao family still own Blackburn. I know from people still close to them that ultimately they want to return Blackburn to the position they were in when they took over, and feel honour-bound to do so."

If that is the case, how simple could it be to appoint a competent, stable, knowledgeable CEO and invest sensibly and properly. Just a modicum of clarity and professionalism in the boardroom would go such a long way to repair 15 years of complete torment and disconnect. Someone who can engage with the fanbase and project a feeling of unity and ultimate progression. 

We're probably nothing more than a loss making venture in amongst many business interests for them. Can imagine a weekly meeting going through their portfolio:

"Anything on the football club?" "Nope nothing from Suhail, must be going smoothly, he's not asked for anymore money". 

Of course they should take more interest, but i imagine at their level of wealth, you employ people to do that for you. We just ended up with people who care more about reducing the losses. 

[Tom]

Weirdly the only thing I really remember from Rochina was him attempting a Rabona away at somewhere like Yeovil from outside the box.

It looked impressive but highlighted he only had one foot!

Exciting player to watch for sure though, clearly talented.

[Jimmy612]

8 minutes ago, alex l said:

We're probably nothing more than a loss making venture in amongst many business interests for them. Can imagine a weekly meeting going through their portfolio:

"Anything on the football club?" "Nope nothing from Suhail, must be going smoothly, he's not asked for anymore money". 

Of course they should take more interest, but i imagine at their level of wealth, you employ people to do that for you. We just ended up with people who care more about reducing the losses. 

I've seen this mentioned before, and I'm not sure I buy it.  £20m a year is not insignificant (not to mention the headache that it's causing with the Indian authorities).  A quick google shows Venky's (India) Limited's annual turnover in March 2024 to be approx £360m.  Now, I'm not sure whether that is only a part of their empire, or whether that is the bulk of it (suspect they have other enterprises that aren't required to publically reveal financials).  But, I'm pretty sure that they will be aware (and frequently made aware) of the millstone around their neck that is Rovers. 

So, why carry on?  Seemingly uninterested and totally disconnected (bar an occasional AI generated statement). There can't be anything in it for them any more. I bet they rue the day they ever made contact with Jerome Anderson.