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[glen9mullan]

3 minutes ago, GHD said:

You have written, very eloquently, exactly what I was about to post

I wish to cause no damage to any entity or fellow supporter.

On that basis

The Action Group will be issuing a statement today regarding the shenanigans , if other groups support or issue their own statement,  that's of course their perogative.

I can only act in the capacity I attended,  which was as Chair of the AG, and the words we will issue will be for the benefit of transparency to our members, 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

12 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

I can only act in the capacity I attended,  which was as Chair of the AG, and the words we will issue will be for the benefit of transparency to our members, 

..And that is all you can do Glen,transparency and honesty is all we ask for from these meetings.

If the Club dont like it then Tuff,the truth needs to be known.

[GHD]

14 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

I wish to cause no damage to any entity or fellow supporter.

On that basis

The Action Group will be issuing a statement today regarding the shenanigans , if other groups support or issue their own statement,  that's of course their perogative.

I can only act in the capacity I attended,  which was as Chair of the AG, and the words we will issue will be for the benefit of transparency to our members, 

In agreeing with lraC’s comment re no confidence votes. I took it he was referring to club forum members and not fan members. Sorry if I got that wrong

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56 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I find it strange that the minutes aren't recorded.

Every meeting I have been in, in my professional life has been recorded for minute purposes.

That way, when the minutes are written up and are circulated to the relevant parties there can be nothing disputed.

Signed and agreed too

[lraC]

53 minutes ago, GHD said:

In agreeing with lraC’s comment re no confidence votes. I took it he was referring to club forum members and not fan members. Sorry if I got that wrong

I was

[lraC]

It is pretty clear from all of this, that it i a case of keeping the truth of the size unrest, away from the owners, for as long as possible, thus protecting certain individual in situ at Ewood Park.

I wasn't in attendance, however, unless I am very much mistaken, the reason for the confrontation was due to Pasha taking issue with Glen, having communication with the owners. That tells me, that Pasha is frightened of the owners, knowing what is really happening, thus protecting his position. 

Hopefully the statement being released today, gets to them too and we see the start of his demise, as it will be a significant removal, in my opinion, if that does happen. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Glen's own words..

"My issue is the unprofessional outburst and aggressive nature of some of the club officials.

They went to a place where they lost total control of their emotions and lashed out stating things they now clearly regret." 

[arbitro]

11 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Glen's own words..

"My issue is the unprofessional outburst and aggressive nature of some of the club officials.

They went to a place where they lost total control of their emotions and lashed out stating things they now clearly regret." 

In a normal world apologies would generally be acceptable for this kind of behaviour but (if this is what happened) they are trying to pretend it didn't happen.

The absolute arrogance of them.

[Mattyblue]

End of the day why is this thread titled like it is? Because that’s generally been the remit of the FF.

The club have tried to manoeuvre the FF in to being the group that covers all consultation with the club, and they were getting away with it too. So all power to Glen et al for using their conniving and pathetic shenanigans against them.

[Mike Graham]

The Club has fooked up as a number of us predicted.  They did not like being held to account by WATR so they turned to the FF to tick their box of consultation thinking they would get their own way.

They were always going to get caught out with their pants down.  There are some decent, intelligent and forceful folk on the supporters side of the FF.

The latest score is:

Supporters 1 v Narcissists 0

(own goal)

Edited 5 hours ago by Mike Graham

[Hasta]

Off Topic a bit, but has "The Gooner' come off twitter?

 

 

[wilsdenrover]

3 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

I genuinely dont believe the club has any intention of having any other narrative than the one they wish to portray. The consistent view of "only a handful with an agenda" have any concerns is the line they are giving the media and its in their interest that the minutes show them in a positive light.

This is clearly the motive to not speaking to groups whilst also the motive why they continually ignore emails from groups notably WATR who have an MOU the club are now failing to honour 

Have they ever indicated what they think this agenda is?

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

That lot running our Club..

[Rogerb]

Suspect if the car salesman was still here the alleged confrontation would not have happened. Suspect another meeting will not occur until a new shield is in situ.

[glen9mullan]

[lraC]

Fair play Glen.

What happens from here?

[J*B]

23 minutes ago, lraC said:

Fair play Glen.

What happens from here?

We’re now at the point where we can have no trust in anything that comes out of the club? 

[lraC]

16 minutes ago, J*B said:

We’re now at the point where we can have no trust in anything that comes out of the club? 

Absolutely.

If they can do this as blatantly as they have, what are they getting up to with no witnesses to back up the truth.

Oh we had a junior member of staff press save instead of send.

Yeah of course you did.

[Miller11]

I’ll come on here and provide clarity, context and corrections to all the parts where I’m quoted when the minutes do come out.

If Glen and @K-Hod do the same at least the regular poster on here will get the true story.

[Miller11]

34 minutes ago, J*B said:

We’re now at the point where we can have no trust in anything that comes out of the club? 

Just to add to this, no minutes produced could do justice to the amount of probing we had to do to get a straight answer to questions. There were instances where discussion points were attempted to be shut down with a one word answer and we as attendees had to continue to push for answers. Like pulling teeth.

[wilsdenrover]

4 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Just to add to this, no minutes produced could do justice to the amount of probing we had to do to get a straight answer to questions. There were instances where discussion points were attempted to be shut down with a one word answer and we as attendees had to continue to push for answers. Like pulling teeth.

Or talking to a three year old?

[glen9mullan]

42 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

I’ll come on here and provide clarity, context and corrections to all the parts where I’m quoted when the minutes do come out.

If Glen and @K-Hod do the same at least the regular poster on here will get the true story.

Absolutely,  i'm rather sad ive had to issue a statement. I'd rather stand down from the group's than change from being transparent.

I wasn't made this way, I can't act in a way which goes against my beliefs as a person.

Hopefully the other groups publicly support my stance as unity must reign here 

[funny-old-game]

40 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Absolutely,  i'm rather sad ive had to issue a statement. I'd rather stand down from the group's than change from being transparent.

I wasn't made this way, I can't act in a way which goes against my beliefs as a person.

Hopefully the other groups publicly support my stance as unity must reign here 

What problems would it cause Glen if the full minutes were to be published 

[den]

If there’s no agreement over the minutes with the club, make your case to the LT?

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

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It's long been a bone of contention of mine that the Forum minutes don't appear to show any kick back against the crap the Club are coming out with. If the minutes are to be believed the meetings come across as a tea and biscuits club with everyone nodding along in agreement to what the Club say.

We keep getting assured by the likes of K Hod that that wasn't actually the case and that there was actually a fair amount of dissension.

Prior to this meeting the defence to that has been that it isn't possible to record in the minutes everything that was said in the meeting.

I'm actually glad to see that it appears that with the introduction of Glen and one or two others onto the Forum this issue is now starting to be rectified. I actually welcome the disagreement, make them sweat, stick to your guns and dont let them continue to get away with putting out heavily edited or sanitised minutes. If the meetings are allowed to continue and no punches are pulled and the minutes accurately record which punches were and weren't pulled, then they might finally start to have some value instead of being a mere box ticking exercise for the Club.

Who agreed the original inaccurate minutes with the Club? Surely whoever did that is the one at fault. 

Stick to your guns and if the Club want to take their bat and ball home because they haven't been able to provide a sanitised version of events as has  seemingly happened previously then let them. It just makes them look worse and worse.

 

 

Edited 17 minutes ago by RevidgeBlue