Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Parsonblue]

2 hours ago, Miller11 said:

I’d have been furious at the time if we’d kept the centre halves back for that corner, or if we’d played it short to run down the clock. No issues with us pushing for the winner.

However, the abysmal delivery and terrible positioning from the corner are just another two in the long line of examples where we get the very basics wrong. Aside from when Miller came in we conceded possession almost immediately from every single throw we had (been going on for years). John Buckley seems to be the only player in our squad that can play a good dead ball with any degree of consistency. Whenever I see us have a corner I always think we’d be so easy to defend against.

I noticed on Saturday that our head physio was taking the shooting drills with the subs in the warm up, laying them off. Pretty sure this used to be David Lowe’s job. While Andy Procter is an ex pro (unlike other members of our coaching staff), I’m not sure why this has fallen to him. Definitely suggests we are short on coaches.

Damien Johnson was stood on the touchline watching the warm-up whereas previously he was involved in it.  I think Johnson was involved at the Hawthorns.

[RevidgeBlue]

So despite Suhail claiming otherwise at the FF - there's no sign of Lowe anywhere?

Im assuming this is Glen's "Court Case" he keeps alluding to. 

If it's not him no doubt he can correct me.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

4 hours ago, Lancaster Rover said:

The creativity argument is a bit of a red herring, I mentioned it last week but Brittain created 40 chances last year which only converted to 2 direct and 2 indirect assists. Which to me tells me an awful lot about out ability to finish chances

 

What sort of chances ? Half chances like the one Ohashi had at West Brom ? How many chances have we missed this season where you could honestly say - “ That was a sitter, I could have scored there “ ? Hardly any. At the moment don’t make enough real chances, that is unarguable.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

What sort of chances ? Half chances like the one Ohashi had at West Brom ? How many chances have we missed this season where you could honestly say - “ That was a sitter, I could have scored there “ ? Hardly any. At the moment don’t make enough real chances, that is unarguable.

It's a mixture of both.

We don't create anywhere near enough chances, nor do we have anywhere near enough decent attacking options to either make the most of the few chances we do create, or, create something themselves.

[DE.]

12 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

What sort of chances ? Half chances like the one Ohashi had at West Brom ? How many chances have we missed this season where you could honestly say - “ That was a sitter, I could have scored there “ ? Hardly any. At the moment don’t make enough real chances, that is unarguable.

3 shots on target in two league games, I believe. Roughly 85 consecutive minutes across both games where we didn't register a single shot. You notice now people are saying we're decent and doing OK just because we aren't getting hammered. It's brutal. 

Edited 21 hours ago by DE.

[DeeCee]

3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So despite Suhail claiming otherwise at the FF - there's no sign of Lowe anywhere?

Im assuming this is Glen's "Court Case" he keeps alluding to. 

If it's not him no doubt he can correct me.

Was the FF meeting not before his departure was announced?

[lraC]

3 minutes ago, DeeCee said:

Was the FF meeting not before his departure was announced?

No

[chaddyrovers]

8 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

So its because we cant afford to sign someone without loaning out a young lad who isnt part of the first team? 

"Simple football matters" yet you arent implicitly saying its financial or otherwise.

Leonard is a young lad, he is 21 years old that isn't a young lad, Tyjon is a young lad 

7 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

I would now what? I don't understand what you're saying there.

Every signing we have made so far is pretty much a replacement for an outgoing player. No stock piling there.

Most people on here are saying we need a RW and a Striker, and then a Trav replacement, and I think that's entirely fair. The striker would essentially be a replacement for Weimann. The RW is a spot we are clearly lacking in as we only have one recognised right winger, and then the Trav replacement is again (drum roll).....another replacement. Again, not really stock piling is it. 🙂

I haven't even said we should be stock piling, I don't think anyone else has either(?). You're the one who said "we can't keep stock piling players" as though that's what the club have been doing. My point was simply this - the club haven't been stock piling anything.

I don't think the concept of needing to get rid of players when you bring new ones in is anything anybody disagrees with, but you're the one who said "we can't keep stock piling players", which I found to be an odd statement to make given we haven't. 🙂

But you missing players like Buckley, Pears, Leonard(via a loan). Plus some people wanted more signings without thinking what we have in terms of players and players we need to go, but also 25 man squad registration rules and you don't want an inflated squad. 

I see Henriksson has the replacement for Weimann plus Tyjon aswell. 

6 hours ago, Miller11 said:

I’d have been furious at the time if we’d kept the centre halves back for that corner, or if we’d played it short to run down the clock. No issues with us pushing for the winner.

However, the abysmal delivery and terrible positioning from the corner are just another two in the long line of examples where we get the very basics wrong. Aside from when Miller came in we conceded possession almost immediately from every single throw we had (been going on for years). John Buckley seems to be the only player in our squad that can play a good dead ball with any degree of consistency. Whenever I see us have a corner I always think we’d be so easy to defend against.

I noticed on Saturday that our head physio was taking the shooting drills with the subs in the warm up, laying them off. Pretty sure this used to be David Lowe’s job. While Andy Procter is an ex pro (unlike other members of our coaching staff), I’m not sure why this has fallen to him. Definitely suggests we are short on coaches.

Yes no problem with Miller, Hyam, Wharton and McLoughlin going forward for the corner but we didn't need everyone in the box, why did Tronstad and De Neve stay on the end of the box with Ribeiro staying back on the half way line. We had a point in the bank at that stage. 3 points would have been great which it should have been in all fairness. 

I don't know Damien Johnson isn't doing the shooting practice warm ups in place of Lowe

4 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Damien Johnson was stood on the touchline watching the warm-up whereas previously he was involved in it.  I think Johnson was involved at the Hawthorns.

Johnson did some warm ups with Tronstad ad Taveras when Whitehead was warming up with the back 4. 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Leonard is a young lad, he is 21 years old that isn't a young lad, Tyjon is a young lad 

But you missing players like Buckley, Pears, Leonard(via a loan). Plus some people wanted more signings without thinking what we have in terms of players and players we need to go, but also 25 man squad registration rules and you don't want an inflated squad. 

I see Henriksson has the replacement for Weimann plus Tyjon aswell. 

Yes no problem with Miller, Hyam, Wharton and McLoughlin going forward for the corner but we didn't need everyone in the box, why did Tronstad and De Neve stay on the end of the box with Ribeiro staying back on the half way line. We had a point in the bank at that stage. 3 points would have been great which it should have been in all fairness. 

I don't know Damien Johnson isn't doing the shooting practice warm ups in place of Lowe

Johnson did some warm ups with Tronstad ad Taveras when Whitehead was warming up with the back 4. 

Trust you to dismiss the majority of my post that you have no constructive comeback to and instead be pedantic over wording.

If we genuinely are holding off signing someone until someone who will be on a really low wage who isnt part of the first team picture departs on loan, then its pretty pathetic.

I suspect that Leonard might go out but he isnt one of the players they consider that needs replacing. I dont think Buckley would be replaced either, I think Ismael spoke of first teamers needing a replacement. To be honest, it wouldnt surprise me if Pears wasnt even replaced and we went with Michalski who clearly isnt ready.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

 

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I suspect that Leonard might go out but he isnt one of the players they consider that needs replacing. I dont think Buckley would be replaced either, I think Ismael spoke of first teamers needing a replacement. To be honest, it wouldnt surprise me if Pears wasnt even replaced and we went with Michalski who clearly isnt ready.

But we are still paying. You have a wage budget and you can't just keep signing players after players like you would. 

Michalski based on a one game? Jesus wept. He made a mistake, personally felt for him but he played well after that. 

Pears didn't warm up on Saturday even as 3rd choice. Someone said he is off to United, whether that true gods know. Not over fuss over it tbh

[OnionBalaji]

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[sharpysharps86]

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

But you missing players like Buckley, Pears, Leonard(via a loan).

What do you mean 'but'...I didn't mention them because the club are clearly trying to offload them.

Man it's like having a debate with the Riddler 😂.

[Lancaster Rover]

16 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

What sort of chances ? Half chances like the one Ohashi had at West Brom ? How many chances have we missed this season where you could honestly say - “ That was a sitter, I could have scored there “ ? Hardly any. At the moment don’t make enough real chances, that is unarguable.

This is data from stats bomb, I''m not sure on the exact nature of how they register a 'chance' but knowing how rigorous their data is I would wager that they're at least a half chance or more. As others have said, last year we were poor at converting the chances we created. This year is a perfect storm in a sense of we're not creating a lot and the chances we do create we are very poor at converting (as it was last year).

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

This is data from stats bomb, I''m not sure on the exact nature of how they register a 'chance' but knowing how rigorous their data is I would wager that they're at least a half chance or more. As others have said, last year we were poor at converting the chances we created. This year is a perfect storm in a sense of we're not creating a lot and the chances we do create we are very poor at converting (as it was last year).

I suppose that's why XG was invented

[Lancaster Rover]

14 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I suppose that's why XG was invented

I probably need to look into whether xG is influenced by the quality of your strike force and whether their likelihood of scoring influences the xG. if you create 10 tap ins but you have Ashley Ward up top does that then drop your xG to 2 rather than the 10 it would be if you had Haaland.

[Lancaster Rover]

Checked it out, xG is based on 

xG measures the quality of a shot based on:

• Distance from goal

• Angle of the shot

• Type of assist (through ball, cross, etc.)

• Body part used (foot, head, etc.)

• Defensive pressure

• Shot type (open play, set piece, etc.)

The person taking the shot has no influence on xG, I suppose this is where the comparison of xG vs actual goals to judge a players worth is useful. 

[dallydally]

Ismael is already confirming what a poor appointment he was

 At this rate we'll be down by Christmas!

[Colt Seavers]

20 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It's a mixture of both.

We don't create anywhere near enough chances, nor do we have anywhere near enough decent attacking options to either make the most of the few chances we do create, or, create something themselves.

I agree with this. Neither of our two current first team squad strikers possess the instinctive movement to create a yard of space for themselves to be able to pop up in the right place for a simple tap in. I'm thinking of a Cole, Rhodes, Dack, Graham or Garner type. 

Added to that, we don't have enough creativity across the squad to provide those chances. I don't advocate either Leonard or Buckley as starters at the present type but to not even have them on the bench when we need something is very odd. I know Leonard has been unlucky with injuries and has failed to establish himself yet but I saw enough of him at youth level to know that he possesses at least some striker instincts.

As regards Buckley; Tavares was clearly spent after about 70 minutes the other day. Ismael didn't dare bring Montgomery on in my opinion due to his performance in the cup, but why have him on the bench over Buckley at this point? 

[lraC]

8 minutes ago, Colt Seavers said:

I agree with this. Neither of our two current first team squad strikers possess the instinctive movement to create a yard of space for themselves to be able to pop up in the right place for a simple tap in. I'm thinking of a Cole, Rhodes, Dack, Graham or Garner type. 

Added to that, we don't have enough creativity across the squad to provide those chances. I don't advocate either Leonard or Buckley as starters at the present type but to not even have them on the bench when we need something is very odd. I know Leonard has been unlucky with injuries and has failed to establish himself yet but I saw enough of him at youth level to know that he possesses at least some striker instincts.

As regards Buckley; Tavares was clearly spent after about 70 minutes the other day. Ismael didn't dare bring Montgomery on in my opinion due to his performance in the cup, but why have him on the bench over Buckley at this point? 

Money

[rigger]

20 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

What sort of chances ? Half chances like the one Ohashi had at West Brom ? How many chances have we missed this season where you could honestly say - “ That was a sitter, I could have scored there “ ? Hardly any. At the moment don’t make enough real chances, that is unarguable.

We had five against Bradford, and scored one of them, two in the second half against Brum, missed both. I would say we create chances but don't put them away.