Valérien Ismaël: Former Head Coach

[johnradfordsubbuteo2]

52 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Btw...he's still not worried!

Such a relief. 

[simongarnerisgod]

54 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Btw...he's still not worried!

if he looks at febuary`s games he should be

[Ossydave]

Genuinely think he'll be gone tomorrow reading between the lines, yesterday was last chance saloon, a draw may have saved him but the gun is cocked and loaded now

[G Somerset Rover]

4 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Genuinely think he'll be gone tomorrow reading between the lines, yesterday was last chance saloon, a draw may have saved him but the gun is cocked and loaded now

By who? The two twats?

 

[JHRover]

The problem the regime faces is that the longer this situation continues the more and more suspicious it gets. 

I mean most of us have known for years that the fundamental metrics in football - results, points, performances, league positions, improvement, promotions etc. are absolutely and utterly irrelevant to the regime. I'd suggest you are deluded if you thing the owners or their stooges spend any of their time thinking about such things.

But up to now their disregard for such trivial matters has been hidden away. Now it is coming clear even to the head in sand brigade and the wider football world.

With 1 win in 15 and sat in the relegation zone there really is no more to say and nothing to hide behind there.

It is going to look very suspicious indeed if they do nothing now. Some would even suggest that relegation is desired if they allow this untenable situation to continue where it wouldn't be permitted at any other club.

 

[Waggy76]

8 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The problem the regime faces is that the longer this situation continues the more and more suspicious it gets. 

I mean most of us have known for years that the fundamental metrics in football - results, points, performances, league positions, improvement, promotions etc. are absolutely and utterly irrelevant to the regime. I'd suggest you are deluded if you thing the owners or their stooges spend any of their time thinking about such things.

But up to now their disregard for such trivial matters has been hidden away. Now it is coming clear even to the head in sand brigade and the wider football world.

With 1 win in 15 and sat in the relegation zone there really is no more to say and nothing to hide behind there.

It is going to look very suspicious indeed if they do nothing now. Some would even suggest that relegation is desired if they allow this untenable situation to continue where it wouldn't be permitted at any other club.

 

Similar to the Premier relegation and giving Kean a new contract , the Authorities knew or had a good idea , but choose not to rock the boat , .Easier for BRFC to disappear to the lower leagues!..

[yellowsubmarine]

Woke up and surprised no news yet. Maybe Rovers want to give Val a good Sunday rest.

[lraC]

4 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Genuinely think he'll be gone tomorrow reading between the lines, yesterday was last chance saloon, a draw may have saved him but the gun is cocked and loaded now

Who will sack him though?

Pasha and Gestede are complicit in this and are responsible for giving him a 3 year contract.

The owners are unlikely to know.

Pasha’s course on how to run a football club, will not have sunk in yet, he will surely have referred to page 412 subsection 3.9 where it says if your manager doesn’t get a win in 10 games, sack him, but he probably thinks thats gone now and it doesn’t say no win in 10,11,12 and 13 as no one has usually gone that long and still been in a job. 

[MarkBRFC]

8 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Btw...he's still not worried!

Why would he be worried?

It's all part of the plan, and he is doing everything this regime wants of him.

6 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Genuinely think he'll be gone tomorrow reading between the lines, yesterday was last chance saloon, a draw may have saved him but the gun is cocked and loaded now

Not a chance.

They will give him the Sheffield Wednesday game, we'll win that and everything will be rosey again in Vals world.

"I said for weeks the win is coming"

He only needs 1 more game to match Mowbray's horror run of 1 win in 15 league games back in 2021.

[Ferrit]

Beating Wednesday feels optimistic 

[davulsukur]

7 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Genuinely think he'll be gone tomorrow reading between the lines, yesterday was last chance saloon, a draw may have saved him but the gun is cocked and loaded now

Nar, he's here for the League One campaign.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

6 hours ago, Waggy76 said:

Similar to the Premier relegation and giving Kean a new contract , the Authorities knew or had a good idea , but choose not to rock the boat , .Easier for BRFC to disappear to the lower leagues!..

I wonder if there are Bonuses for relegation?

[Ossydave]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

Why would he be worried?

It's all part of the plan, and he is doing everything this regime wants of him.

Not a chance.

They will give him the Sheffield Wednesday game, we'll win that and everything will be rosey again in Vals world.

"I said for weeks the win is coming"

He only needs 1 more game to match Mowbray's horror run of 1 win in 15 league games back in 2021.

Fair play if you're confident we'd beat Sheff Wednesday under him, I wouldn't be.

[LeftWinger]

11 hours ago, Ferrit said:

Not to mention needing to be paid off for 2.5 years.

If it’s anything like previous contracts (specifically Kean rather than Berg) there will be a clause in that it’s 12 months pay out.

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49 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

I wonder if there are Bonuses for relegation?

That'll be another clanger like "wE didn't ThInK yoU could get rEleGatEd"

 

[MarkBRFC]

49 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

Fair play if you're confident we'd beat Sheff Wednesday under him, I wouldn't be.

We'll beat them.

Not sure where any other wins are coming from though.

Out of the bottom 3 when/if we do, they will be spinning the fuck out of it.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

22 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

We'll beat them.

Not sure where any other wins are coming from though.

Out of the bottom 3 when/if we do, they will be spinning the fuck out of it.

Funny thing - even if we don't beat them, I have no confidence they will bin him.

Even if they do get rid - will be after the transfer window shuts - limiting what a new manager can do - great planning by the people running the club.

[Tomphil2]

In their mind once he gets that first elusive win in 15 it'll reset the bar and he's ok for another 15.

The incompetence levels are staggering but entirely predictable and i think the arse covering is the main issue. These lot are employed as cost cutters and money gatherers from wheeling and dealing players.

So to go to their bosses and say we need x amount to fight this Macron lot and possibly several hundred grand for the find. Also we'd like a million or two to remove the head coach and staff and replace them.....

Not happening is it they'll just bury their heads then phone them when they've agreed another big outgoing transfer fee.

That's how it works here so i'd suggest the only chance of change is if Ismael walks or one the Pune lot takes notice and insists on the axe dropping.

[BankEnd Rover]

[Polky]

13 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

I did think last night about Mowbray coming back until the end of season. Gets longer than he did in 16/17 to keep us up. 
 

Should only get a deal until the end of the season imo.

[Craigman]

I wonder if it is the owners who want him back or Suhail pushing it?

[BankEnd Rover]

1 minute ago, Polky said:

I did think last night about Mowbray coming back until the end of season. Gets longer than he did in 16/17 to keep us up. 
 

Should only get a deal until the end of the season imo.

I don't think he'd take anything longer, especially under this regime.

Till the end of season, I don't think we'd get anyone better.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Not for me, he lost me years ago. 

[BankEnd Rover]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Not for me, he lost me years ago. 

Who would you get? I imagine this is a Pasha move, considering their "positive" relationship...I wouldn't trust Gestede getting anyone with any experience.

6 month contract is a no brainier for me.

Edited yesterday at 10:17 by BankEnd Rover

[DutchRover]

My read was that Mowbray was successfully able to sideline Suhail, going directly to Venkys, bringing in his ally Waggot.

Really doubt Suhail would be pushing for him to come back; I would guess Venkys are saying "we liked that Mowbray fellow get him back to save us"