Fraserkirky Posted yesterday at 04:23 Posted yesterday at 04:23 8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Β Β Yeah heβll do. Like a foreign harry chapman.Β 1 Quote
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Tomphil2 Posted yesterday at 07:41 Posted yesterday at 07:41 Being linked to everyone under the sun as usual but the actual strike rate of one, if any, actually dropping ? Quote
MarkBRFC Posted yesterday at 07:43 Posted yesterday at 07:43 11 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said: This guy would be class btw Β Worst account on Twitter. Just makes up a load of names and pretends we are "interested". Not a clue him. 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted yesterday at 08:15 Posted yesterday at 08:15 34 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Being linked to everyone under the sun as usual but the actual strike rate of one, if any, actually dropping ? It's going to be minimal 1 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted yesterday at 08:36 Posted yesterday at 08:36 11 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Very limited times. Was absolutely horrific for half a season, then had maybe a month where he was good and got most of his very limited goal return, then dropped back off and looked poor again. Yes I would say a decent Championship player. Good value signing, nothing special. Gueye is a big lump who we have to totally change our style to get anything out of. And when he was coming on as a sub which would make him a plan B towards the end of the season, his body language was really poor and he may aswell have not come on. If 6 is a decent return for a striker then my standards must be too high. What was our style of play when Ohashi was upfront? Watch the ball come back at us time and time again? We had the balance right at the start of the season - start the games with Gueye and then bring Ohashi on as a sub on 70 minutes when the defenders were tired. Quote
roversfan99 Posted yesterday at 08:42 Posted yesterday at 08:42 6 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: What was our style of play when Ohashi was upfront? Watch the ball come back at us time and time again? We had the balance right at the start of the season - start the games with Gueye and then bring Ohashi on as a sub on 70 minutes when the defenders were tired. We won 6 of the 23 games he started and 13 of the 23 he didnt. Quote
Ricceh Posted yesterday at 08:51 Posted yesterday at 08:51 35 minutes ago, davulsukur said: It's going to be minimal I hope this Minimal bloke is a striker 2 Quote
Hasta Posted yesterday at 09:03 Posted yesterday at 09:03 With Ismael all of his good results at the end of the season came when he benched Gueye and used him sparingly. He clearly didnt fancy him. Quote
47er Posted yesterday at 09:05 Posted yesterday at 09:05 Ohashi is worth his place but shouldn't lead the line---not strong enough. Benefits from having the big bloke up with him imo and his passing and crossing can assist Gueye to grab a few. 2 Quote
47er Posted yesterday at 09:09 Posted yesterday at 09:09 12 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: I've genuinely no idea why fans don't like Gueye. He was our best player at times last season and completely unplayable for defenders.Β Most fans love him! His form is inconsistent but he does terrify defences and doe defend well. Puts his head where some wouldn't put their foot! I would persevere with him, could we sign better with our budget? Quote
roversfan99 Posted yesterday at 09:34 Posted yesterday at 09:34 He is a likeable character but we fare far better without him starting, he doesnt offer much goal threat which as a striker isnt ideal and even when he came off the bench, his body language and standard of performance left a lot to be desired. Quote
jwlrovers Posted yesterday at 09:44 Posted yesterday at 09:44 (edited) Gueye is the perfect design for an impact sub. Unfortunately, he seemed to be at his best when he had a run in the team, not coming on here and there. Edited yesterday at 09:45 by jwlrovers 3 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted yesterday at 09:47 Posted yesterday at 09:47 13 hours ago, M_B said: Gallagher could have sat it out for another 12 months and made more money, i'd like to think he was thinking of the club when he went for a fee. π€£π€£ Β Β Quote
bluebruce Posted yesterday at 09:49 Posted yesterday at 09:49 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: We won 6 of the 23 games he started and 13 of the 23 he didnt. Gueye or Ohashi? Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted yesterday at 10:00 Posted yesterday at 10:00 14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: He is a likeable character but we fare far better without him starting, he doesnt offer much goal threat which as a striker isnt ideal and even when he came off the bench, his body language and standard of performance left a lot to be desired. Scored twice as many League goals in his first season over here as Gallagher did in his last though. Who you liked. Think the reality is neither Ohashi or Gueye are really good enough in isolation but both proved relatively good value at around Β£250k and Β£1m respectively. Decent strikers cost decent money which we wont pay. We might get a reasonable combined return out of the two of them again if used judiciously. I do fear for Gueye, he looks like a confidence type of player who needs an arm round the shoulder but it wouldn't appear that Ismael rates him. Both have however performed far more creditably thus far than the assorted dross we've had over recent years like Gallagher, Hirst, Telalovic and Ennis. 6 Quote
roversfan99 Posted yesterday at 10:01 Posted yesterday at 10:01 12 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Gueye or Ohashi? Gueye. Both of our good runs coincided with him not starting games. Quote
den Posted yesterday at 10:09 Posted yesterday at 10:09 13 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Β Gueye is a big lump who we have to totally change our style to get anything out of. And when he was coming on as a sub which would make him a plan B towards the end of the season, his body language was really poor and he may aswell have not come on. If 6 is a decent return for a striker then my standards must be too high. A big lump who is one of the poorest headers of a ball that I can remember. Quote
roversfan99 Posted yesterday at 10:12 Posted yesterday at 10:12 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Scored twice as many League goals in his first season over here as Gallagher did in his last though. Who you liked. Think the reality is neither Ohashi or Gueye are really good enough in isolation but both proved relatively good value at around Β£250k and Β£1m respectively. Decent strikers cost decent money which we wont pay. We might get a reasonable combined return out of the two of them again if used judiciously. I do fear for Gueye, he looks like a confidence type of player who needs an arm round the shoulder but it wouldn't appear that Ismael rates him. Both have however performed far more creditably thus far than the assorted dross we've had over recent years like Gallagher, Hirst, Telalovic and Ennis. I didnt rate Gallagher. I thought in general he was a below average Championship striker. However he seems to have done something to you personally as you probably have criticised him more than you have Venkys and you lost all semblance of balance when discussing him. A typical Gallagher season here saw him score 8 or 9 goals, which we all thought needed an improvement upon. His last season saw him constantly getting injured so it wasnt an average season for him.Β Equally, he doesnt deserve being put in a lineup with dross that never scored a single goal here nor some of the rubbish youve put in the past about him being the worst striker weve ever had. Ohashi and Gueye IMO cant be put in the same category in terms of value. Ohashi was a small 6 figure fee and scored a reasonable and respectable goals tally (similar to a standard Gallagher season ironically) and did miss a couple of months. He isnt a standout Championship striker but hes a very useful one especially for such a low price and our results have been far better with him in the side as opposed to Gueye. When Gueye scored at Sheff Wednesday away and then got those 2 at West Brom it felt like his confidence had gone up and he could kick on, especially as Ohashi was unavailable meaning he could have a run of games. Unfortunately those contributions proved to be the exception to the rule and he didnt kick on which led to him being dropped again. 1 Quote
Popular Post Neal Posted yesterday at 10:20 Popular Post Posted yesterday at 10:20 9 minutes ago, den said: A big lump who is one of the poorest headers of a ball that I can remember. Β To counter that, I think he wins almost everything. Including a few times when we were defending a lead at home he was the best at heading it clear and did it numerous times.Β Β People are way too overly critical of him IMO... We've hardly ever played to his strengths.Β 11 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted yesterday at 10:26 Posted yesterday at 10:26 4 minutes ago, Neal said: Β To counter that, I think he wins almost everything. Including a few times when we were defending a lead at home he was the best at heading it clear and did it numerous times.Β Β People are way too overly critical of him IMO... We've hardly ever played to his strengths.Β Personally think Gueye is really good if utilised correctly. Wins everything, finishing not great granted, puts in a shift. Got a hell of a lot of assists. The comparison to Gallagher is mental to me, different levels. 5 Quote
RoverKyle Posted yesterday at 10:37 Posted yesterday at 10:37 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Neal said: Β To counter that, I think he wins almost everything. Including a few times when we were defending a lead at home he was the best at heading it clear and did it numerous times.Β Β People are way too overly critical of him IMO... We've hardly ever played to his strengths.Β If we can get him into positions where he can get on the end of Brittain's crosses, he would be lethal. As others have alluded to, he's showing a lot more than Gallagher ever did for us.Β Edited yesterday at 10:37 by RoverKyle 1 Quote
rigger Posted yesterday at 10:40 Posted yesterday at 10:40 14 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: I've genuinely no idea why fans don't like Gueye. He was our best player at times last season and completely unplayable for defenders.Β Gueye is ideal as a plan B. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted yesterday at 11:10 Posted yesterday at 11:10 2 hours ago, Hasta said: With Ismael all of his good results at the end of the season came when he benched Gueye and used him sparingly. He clearly didnt fancy him. Easy enough to resolve, fire Ismael. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted yesterday at 11:17 Posted yesterday at 11:17 35 minutes ago, rigger said: Gueye is ideal as a plan B. I think he's Plan A. A 6'5" aggressive, athletic CF who wins the vast majority of contested balls and brings others into play. You build around that and let the others (Cantwell, Winger, Winger) start taking over the game.Β 2 Quote
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