2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[roverandout]

Gueye seems better with the ball at his feet than in the air. Similar to Peter crouch

[47er]

I remember writing after a few games that Gaye was already 27, should be at his peak and we shouldn't expect him to improve much.

Yet at various points he did! Does seem Ismael doesn't rate him though.

[rob_of_the_rovers]

34 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Gueye seems better with the ball at his feet than in the air. Similar to Peter crouch

Apart from when he shoots, then he becomes my nan

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Personally think Gueye is really good if utilised correctly.

Wins everything, finishing not great granted, puts in a shift.

Got a hell of a lot of assists.

The comparison to Gallagher is mental to me, different levels.

He wasnt putting in much of a shift when he was coming on towards the end of the season. Half arsed and constantly waving his arms around.

Gallagher was below average but so was Gueye last season, problem is that people like yourself and RevidgeBlue lost all balance in judging Gallagher. Gueye got only 6 goals and we won significantly less when he started compared to when he didnt.

Edited yesterday at 12:34 by roversfan99

[rigger]

50 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I think he's Plan A. A 6'5" aggressive, athletic CF who wins the vast majority of contested balls and brings others into play.

You build around that and let the others (Cantwell, Winger, Winger) start taking over the game. 

The problem may be that refs have a tendency to penalise big aggressive athletes. If he is on from the start, he will be a red card waiting to happen.

[davulsukur]

You'd like to think that both Gueye and Ohashi will be better coming into this season, after their first one in the Championship and a full pre-season but I wouldn't expect either to be hitting more than 10 goals. Assuming VI sticks with 4-2-3-1, having better attackers in the 3 positions behind them might add more goals to their games.

I assume we are looking to sign another striker though?

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, den said:

A big lump who is one of the poorest headers of a ball that I can remember.

Well he's nowhere near the poorest header of a ball I can remember. In fact he's nowhere near the poorest header of the ball in this team.

[den]

17 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Well he's nowhere near the poorest header of a ball I can remember. In fact he's nowhere near the poorest header of the ball in this team.

We obviously have different opinions on what makes him so good in the air. For me the timing of his Jump and connection on the ball is the worst part, closely followed by his direction. Just being a big lump that occasionally manages to get his head on the ball means very little. How many headers has he scored since he’s been here? I genuinely don’t know but doubt it’s very many.

Good headers from the past? Absolutely loads of them. He doesn’t come close IMO.

Edited yesterday at 12:57 by den

[sharpysharps86]

2 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Personally think Gueye is really good if utilised correctly.

Wins everything, finishing not great granted, puts in a shift.

Got a hell of a lot of assists.

The comparison to Gallagher is mental to me, different levels.

Agree with all of that. Gueye had some tough times last season but he showed in certain games that he is capable. WBA away springs to mind. Although perhaps lucky to be given a couple of those assists (e.g. the 'backheel' against Luton), he still contributed a good amount.

It'll be interesting to see how things develop with him and Ismael considering he was benched during the good end of season run.

[Torgeir]

20 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Agree with all of that. Gueye had some tough times last season but he showed in certain games that he is capable. WBA away springs to mind. Although perhaps lucky to be given a couple of those assists (e.g. the 'backheel' against Luton), he still contributed a good amount.

It'll be interesting to see how things develop with him and Ismael considering he was benched during the good end of season run.

Poor finisher, poor tactically but wears his heart on his sleeve and can be unplayable on his day. We need better, but a valuable squad member.

[rigger]

1 hour ago, den said:

We obviously have different opinions on what makes him so good in the air. For me the timing of his Jump and connection on the ball is the worst part, closely followed by his direction. Just being a big lump that occasionally manages to get his head on the ball means very little. How many headers has he scored since he’s been here? I genuinely don’t know but doubt it’s very many.

Good headers from the past? Absolutely loads of them. He doesn’t come close IMO.

Gueye is as good as we have got, players from the past mean absolutely nothing for the present team.

[RevidgeBlue]

Closest player we've ever had to Gueye that I can recall is Shefki Kuqi. Big, Clumsy, bit of a handful, not incredibly prolific but scores a few.

Infectious enthusiasm and extremely likeable.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I didnt rate Gallagher. I thought in general he was a below average Championship striker. However he seems to have done something to you personally as you probably have criticised him more than you have Venkys and you lost all semblance of balance when discussing him.

A typical Gallagher season here saw him score 8 or 9 goals, which we all thought needed an improvement upon.

I don't like players who swing the lead for season after season, therefore I'd have a similarly dim view of Corry Evans. Gallagher was half decent during his initial loan spell under Coyle (although never worth spending anywhere near £5m on) but following his return on a permanent basis he turned being invisible and avoiding getting into scoring positions into an art form. Opinions vary on how much effort Gallagher put in but for me he was only ever going through the motions for that reason.

Incidentally, he only scored 3 League goals for Stoke this season as well so that looks like it's a "standard Gallagher season" now. Bet Stoke are delighted they're paying him £15k - £20k p.w.

 

[roversfan99]

16 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I don't like players who swing the lead for season after season, therefore I'd have a similarly dim view of Corry Evans. Gallagher was half decent during his initial loan spell under Coyle (although never worth spending anywhere near £5m on) but following his return on a permanent basis he turned being invisible and avoiding getting into scoring positions into an art form. Opinions vary on how much effort Gallagher put in but for me he was only ever going through the motions for that reason.

Incidentally, he only scored 3 League goals for Stoke this season as well so that looks like it's a "standard Gallagher season" now. Bet Stoke are delighted they're paying him £15k - £20k p.w.

 

His body is clearly failing him now, its been another season where he has constantly been injured.

He was never a natural goalscorer and was always average (and overpriced) but he was nowhere near as bad as you made out. 

But back to Gueye. His performances and goal return last season do not compare favourably to most of Gallagher's seasons here and as I said before, he started exactly half of our games. We won 6 he started and 13 that he didnt. That tells you quite a lot.

[Neal]

Football seems to be stuck in a bit of identity crisis which in my opinion is a good thing. As we're starting to see a bit more variety in different methods rather than just attempts at total Guardiola football. A lot of the big boys have built reputations on being the best at this type of football but look at the trend now, they're all looking for a big physical centre forward and are slowly conceeding to the reality of how effective having a player like that up front really is. It was unfashionable a few years ago, now it's becoming a bit of a blueprint. 

 

My point being... We have that sort of player in Gueye, like those teams, you need to be making the most out of him by playing to his abilities. Get early balls in the box, have pace out wide and have a pacier option on the bench in case it doesn't work. 

 

I really think Makhtar is that sort of player that could bang in 15 goals+ if he can get off to a good start. 

Edited yesterday at 14:40 by Neal

[Forever Blue]

If VI implements the aggressive, more attacking style he apparently favours then the forwards should hopefully get more chances to make an impact next season. JE took a very cautious approach and we hardly flooded the box when attacking. 

The likes of Ohashi and Gueye could fare a lot better next season, especially as they’ll now be properly acclimatised to EFL football. 

[Tom]

3 hours ago, den said:

We obviously have different opinions on what makes him so good in the air. For me the timing of his Jump and connection on the ball is the worst part, closely followed by his direction. Just being a big lump that occasionally manages to get his head on the ball means very little. How many headers has he scored since he’s been here? I genuinely don’t know but doubt it’s very many.

Good headers from the past? Absolutely loads of them. He doesn’t come close IMO.

I can think of 4, which for a first season would indicate he’s definitely not one of the worst headers of the ball we’ve had 

Granted I think he could be better though 

[Roverthechimp]

Is this the 2024 or 2025 summer window thread? 🤣

Is it the 30th of june when existing contracts actually end? (ie Dolan, Weimann, Baath)

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

Is this the 2024 or 2025 summer window thread? 🤣

Is it the 30th of june when existing contracts actually end? (ie Dolan, Weimann, Baath)

yes

[dallydally]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

If VI implements the aggressive, more attacking style he apparently favours then the forwards should hopefully get more chances to make an impact next season. JE took a very cautious approach and we hardly flooded the box when attacking. 

The likes of Ohashi and Gueye could fare a lot better next season, especially as they’ll now be properly acclimatised to EFL football. 

Dream on!

[Forever Blue]

33 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Dream on!

Good chat

[levi]

8 hours ago, den said:

A big lump who is one of the poorest headers of a ball that I can remember.

That dennis header at shef utd will take some beating tbf

[norwichblue]

14 minutes ago, levi said:

That dennis header at shef utd will take some beating tbf

Don’t remind us 😫

[Emerald Isle Rover]

5 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

His body is clearly failing him now, its been another season where he has constantly been injured.

He was never a natural goalscorer and was always average (and overpriced) but he was nowhere near as bad as you made out. 

But back to Gueye. His performances and goal return last season do not compare favourably to most of Gallagher's seasons here and as I said before, he started exactly half of our games. We won 6 he started and 13 that he didnt. That tells you quite a lot.

Gueye has had one season in English football and has already matched gallaghers best season for goal contributions. Both aren’t anything special let’s be real but he’s different and offers more than gally does and ‘should’ improve 

[rigger]

1 hour ago, levi said:

That dennis header at shef utd will take some beating tbf

Pederson V Chelsea in the cup semi-final.