lraC Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 7 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: Punishment for the snowball is the craziest theory on here the rot was well and truly set in way before that. The 30 million a season black hole they'd created which lead to a fire sale and relegation was less snowball and more Anderson/Kean, And Venkys own ignorance. ย You align with me on that. I am convinced they are still here too, only keeping a low profile, or disguised with other connections. 3 Quote
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Waggy76 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 7 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said: im`e leaning towards the theory that they are punishing us for the snowball incident,it must have really hurt their pride to disembark their rolls royces,expecting plaudits and cheers,only to be met by a hail of hatred and frozen snow๐they hav`nt been back since and have systematically ground us down ironically if it was`nt for swags enlightened appointments of mowbray,jdt and eustace,we`de have been floundering long ago Don't think Waggott appointed Mowbray, more vice versa.ย 1 Quote
47er Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 20 hours ago, Blue blood said: Any thoughts on the difference between then and now, those doing the spotting?ย Maybe, just maybe, that might have a y'know influence on the liklihood of these signings being successful.ย Chaddy in yet another attempt to convince us we're doing OK. We are ย signing dross in the hope that one or two come off. They can then be sold for a healthy profit allowing us to continue to play night games! 1 Quote
G Somerset Rover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 48 minutes ago, lraC said: You align with me on that. I am convinced they are still here too, only keeping a low profile, or disguised with other connections. Glen was sure that Suhail is the last of that lot. The guy needs ridding once and for all. 3 Quote
47er Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 14 hours ago, imy9 said: And this would be my massive issue with Eustace, itโs short term thinking and we cannot survive on this model. Iโm actually excited by the pace and power that appears to be coming into the side! Derby are broke though like us, that's why he's making the sort of signings he is. Focus on staying up next season and building. Always freebies available from us! Quote
47er Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 13 hours ago, davulsukur said: Derby apparently lining up Owen Beck on loan as well. Thought he was Wrexham-bound? Quote
47er Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 11 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Well of course he wonโt re sign him Travis and tronstad on more than 10k as it stands so who in their right mind would accept lower im sceptical that its trueโฆ.but as ever with venkys nothing would surprise meย ย Yet we'll still have fans blaming the exits on greedy players and their agents! Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 9 hours ago, Forever Blue said: Nickoโs got a story for us all tomorrow. Iโm quite moist. Something to do with the CEO i think. Quote
Ricceh Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Just now, MarkBRFC said: Something to do with the CEO i think. It's Pasha wearing a Noel Edmonds mask from a Halloween party in 1996. 6 Quote
islander200 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 10 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said: Something to do with the CEO i think. Martin Bain the fella who was Ceoย at Sunderland during their relegations is the favourite Quote
Damien Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 12 hours ago, cesus said: I couldn't help be baffled that Weimann had a surgery before the end of the season, "to be fit and ready for next season". I scratched my head at the time wondering how we knew he wasn't using our medical department to get ready for somebody else, turns out my fears were correct. I thought exactly the same. It pissed me off because everyone knew weโd lost a good player just so he could f*ck off somewhere else.ย For that reason, I hope he gets crocked in his first game for Derby. Quote
alex l Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 28 minutes ago, 47er said: Yet we'll still have fans blaming the exits on greedy players and their agents! It'd be nice to find a squad full of Santi Carola's - playing for minimum contract at his first club, just got them promoted back to La Liga.ย Quote
DutchRover Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 14 minutes ago, islander200 said: Martin Bain the fella who was Ceoย at Sunderland during their relegations is the favourite God help us if that is the case, he nearly bankrupted them and they were on prem revenue 1 Quote
alex l Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 18 minutes ago, islander200 said: Martin Bain the fella who was Ceoย at Sunderland during their relegations is the favourite Hardly a ringing endorsement to be compared to David Brent... ย https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/whats-happened-former-sunderland-chief-21780987 1 Quote
London blue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 19 minutes ago, islander200 said: Martin Bain the fella who was Ceoย at Sunderland during their relegations is the favourite The Scottish fella? He seemed competent but exactly the kind of guy you'd turn to manage a club with close to zero money. Quote
TimmyJimmy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Do we know who it was who threw the snowball? Did it ever get claimed? Whatever your view on the 'incident' anyone who understands Indian pride and dignity will know that it had an effect.ย It was shit here pre-snowball and treble shit post-snowball. Quote
JHRover Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 11 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Aren't most of those players you listed on higher wages than 10k.ย Hyam and Cantwell are probably our biggest wage earners, Travis, Brittain and Tronstad on higher than 10k.ย Those players got their deals years ago, Cantwell the only recent exception. Reports not long ago suggested Eustace was set to resign last summer and it was only the club relaxing it's ridiculous approach and signing Cantwell, Batth and Weimann that persuaded him to stay. So the wage cap thing makes complete sense, it explains the inability and unwillingness to sort out new contracts for our best players because we are choosing to let them go due to our own wage policies. Our choice. Not FFP, not COVID, not the weather, not a player wanting PL football, not a project, not a player wanting to go and live down South. Just plain old fashioned cost cuts. Eventually that catches up with everyone and will do here very soon. Absolutely ridiculous the reaction from some online to the two foreign signings whilst we see the cornerstones of last season's relative success depart, again due to our failings and policies nothing more. It was these policies and refusal to sort out the contracts that led Eustace to jump ship mid season at the first opportunity, an unprecedented step that the head in sand gang have managed to erase from their consciousness. This is project 4 since 2022. We had Mowbray's project, we had the Broughton and JDT project, we had the Eustace and Park project and now it's the Gestede and Ismael project. This time next year it will be another one. They're winging it from one year to the next masquerading as a professional outfit. 5 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 17 minutes ago, DutchRover said: God help us if that is the case, he nearly bankrupted them and they were on prem revenue How did bankrupt them when he wasn't the owner? Ellis Short had decided not to invest another penny anymore.ย Venkys will know Bain from his time as CEO of Indian Super Leagueย ย The job is just administrative role at best with very little power to make key decisionsย 1 Quote
TimmyJimmy Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Elliott Bennett gives a good insight into contract negotiations under Venkys in todays Telegraph. Good bloke. Loves the club. 1 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: How did bankrupt them when he wasn't the owner? Ellis Short had decided not to invest another penny anymore.ย Venkys will know Bain from his time as CEO of Indian Super Leagueย ย The job is just administrative role at best with very little power to make key decisionsย What a healthy setup. Suhail with the power and this cretin just doing the admin for him. 1 Quote
davulsukur Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 48 minutes ago, islander200 said: Martin Bain the fella who was Ceoย at Sunderland during their relegations is the favourite Sunderland fans think he was a fucking disaster ๐ Venky's at their finest. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 7 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 7 hours ago 51 minutes ago, islander200 said: Martin Bain the fella who was Ceoย at Sunderland during their relegations is the favourite He sounds like heโs got the credentials ๐ . Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, lraC said: You align with me on that. I am convinced they are still here too, only keeping a low profile, or disguised with other connections. Hypothetically speaking just imagine if someone - in return for running the ship from the shadows or an initial stake or even a contract that is impossible to break without a massive payout - was entitled to just 5 or 10% of every buy or sale deal. That might not sound much but over 15 years it's a very handsome return and the kind of investment or involvement a very crafty clever snake would include in their deal with clueless mega rich new ownership. Remember how they were all in bed together at first and under scrutiny in the early days the Matriarch said 'Jerome's role will diminish as time goes by' she didn't say his involvement would end. There may well be a 5th member around that farmhouse kitchen table when dealing with Rovers. A member perhaps represented on the board by a duel agent who's worked for both companies. The sheer number of players who are seeing out their contracts here now is also interesting when considering this. 4 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 12 minutes ago, davulsukur said: Sunderland fans think he was a fucking disaster ๐ Venky's at theirย finest. Cheapest. Quote
Mercer Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: How did bankrupt them when he wasn't the owner? Ellis Short had decided not to invest another penny anymore.ย Venkys will know Bain from his time as CEO of Indian Super Leagueย ย The job is just administrative role at best with very little power to make key decisionsย If the advert we've seen is correct, no self respecting individual would take this job. A C-suite level job my arse. Edited 6 hours ago by Mercer 2 Quote
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