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33 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

I do wish humble pie was on more menus on here. We all get stuff wrong from time to time, I’ll never understand why people just can’t admit when they are wrong.

It’s life, it happens.

Crazy, you spend your whole life preaching that everyone is entitled to an opinion and then suddenly because Dolan gets a move to Espanyol, then the people who doubted him are “wrong”.

Listen, for the very last time. I hope to god I’m wrong, because there’s no doubt he’s a great lad. But in 100+ games, I’m saying he’s crap. He won’t be the first crap player to get a great move. He’s extremely low risk in terms of wages and fees so it’s probably best if everyone sits back and sees how things work out for him there before we start deciding whether anyone was right or wrong. Eh?

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Posted
3 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

Bet you weren't saying that, when Diaz was sticking them in the net for Rovers.

i had the same feeling about diaz that i had for el hadji diouf,both a bare of tosspots ,but hey,what can you do when they are banging the goals in,in diaz case,he was bloody useless for 2 seasons and only started scoring because somehow the coaching staff found what he was good at,look for the long ball,run on to it and cut inside

 

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Crazy, you spend your whole life preaching that everyone is entitled to an opinion and then suddenly because Dolan gets a move to Espanyol, then the people who doubted him are “wrong”.

Listen, for the very last time. I hope to god I’m wrong, because there’s no doubt he’s a great lad. But in 100+ games, I’m saying he’s crap. He won’t be the first crap player to get a great move. He’s extremely low risk in terms of wages and fees so it’s probably best if everyone sits back and sees how things work out for him there before we start deciding whether anyone was right or wrong. Eh?

People are allowed their own opinions, but there’s definitely an expectation that people should hold their hands up when they get it wrong. 
At the moment though, people that said he wouldn’t get a move anywhere good, are wrong. I’m saying that’s okay, but to then say ‘let’s see how he gets on’, I don’t agree, I’m afraid. ‘Let’s wait until I might be right again in a few years?’ Do me a favour.

He got a good move, then if he fails and ends up back in the Champo on loan, then fair enough, but he’s currently a La Liga player, when some said he was lower Championship or League one at best. 
They were just factually incorrect, to be fair.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

People are allowed their own opinions, but there’s definitely an expectation that people should hold their hands up when they get it wrong. 
At the moment though, people that said he wouldn’t get a move anywhere good, are wrong. I’m saying that’s okay, but to then say ‘let’s see how he gets on’, I don’t agree, I’m afraid. ‘Let’s wait until I might be right again in a few years?’ Do me a favour.

He got a good move, then if he fails and ends up back in the Champo on loan, then fair enough, but he’s currently a La Liga player, when some said he was lower Championship or League one at best. 
That’s just factually incorrect, to be fair.

Funny how some couldn't 'wait and see' where he went before basically writing off his chances of doing anything other than another Nyambe heading downwards.

Now its pivoted to 'he'll flop and drop in no time just wait and see' 🤣

 

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Posted

Whatever happens with Dolan, Rovers are weaker without him. I hope the lad does good over there. If we were run right as a club he would probably still be with us. 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

People are allowed their own opinions, but there’s definitely an expectation that people should hold their hands up when they get it wrong. 
At the moment though, people that said he wouldn’t get a move anywhere good, are wrong. I’m saying that’s okay, but to then say ‘let’s see how he gets on’, I don’t agree, I’m afraid. ‘Let’s wait until I might be right again in a few years?’ Do me a favour.

He got a good move, then if he fails and ends up back in the Champo on loan, then fair enough, but he’s currently a La Liga player, when some said he was lower Championship or League one at best. 
They were just factually incorrect, to be fair.

Theres a moving of the goal posts by some.

The discussion was about what happens now. Talk about his arrogance, him being agent led, comparisons to Nyambe, talk about why he hadnt gone anywhere yet etc, all surrounding where he would go now and whether he should have stayed. 

He has already justified running his contract down and waiting by getting a very good move. That he could do so clearly wasnt fuelled by misplaced arrogance as it has come to fruition.

Havent seen any suggestions that people think he will thrive in La Liga, thats a totally seperate argument.

Posted
1 minute ago, Displaced Rover said:

I’m entirely confident Dolan’s time in Spain will go exactly like Brereton’s. That said, presumably on decent money, fair play to him.

different players,dolan always works his **** off and tracks back,diaz prefered to wait for the ball,in that context,dolan will make a bigger impact,though in diaz defence,he was playing in a far better side and found it difficult to fit in to the short passing stuff

Posted
54 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Stand in the corner, face the wall and remain silent for 48hrs.

 

Why ? from what I have seen, Dolan is at best an average championship level player. Most weeks he is below that

Posted
52 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

People are allowed their own opinions, but there’s definitely an expectation that people should hold their hands up when they get it wrong. 
At the moment though, people that said he wouldn’t get a move anywhere good, are wrong. I’m saying that’s okay, but to then say ‘let’s see how he gets on’, I don’t agree, I’m afraid. ‘Let’s wait until I might be right again in a few years?’ Do me a favour.

He got a good move, then if he fails and ends up back in the Champo on loan, then fair enough, but he’s currently a La Liga player, when some said he was lower Championship or League one at best. 
They were just factually incorrect, to be fair.

Do you rate Dolan as a good player ?

Posted

Good move for Dolan, wish him well at Espanyol. He's getting a nice sign-on bonus, salary raise and nice weather conditions to play in. People should be pointing finger at the owners rather than an individual player who decides to leave for more ambitious projects than ours. Club is losing significant transfer money by either neglecting contract situation(s) or fail to cash in when offers do come by (Brereton, Dolan etc.). 

We have, since a couple of years back, entered a rather dangerous (and unsustainable) territory of not being able to renew player contracts leading to a decreased squad value and inability to properly replace the outgoings or strengthen the squad. We also have a head coach who now openly admits that they're willing to gamble on Brittain this year and risk letting him leave for nothing next summer. In addition, no reports suggests that a renewal for either Travis or Tronstad are near as well. What will happen next year if all three were to leave on a free?   

We're currently being outspent by thirteen Championship clubs this summer, including all three promoted sides (yes, even Charlton). Out of the ten teams who have spent less than us, you can argue that some of them already have strong squads (Leicester, Middlesbrough, Sheffield Utd.). It leaves us (theoretically) to compete with the likes of Sheffield Wednesday, Preston, Portsmouth, Oxford and Hull to avoid being dragged in a relegation battle this season.

Our signings so far are speculative at best, with two players arriving from a relegated Belgian team, one from a team currently under transfer embargo (Hull) and the last one not being a regular starter for a mid-table Portuguese team. 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Presumably Markanday will be at Atletico Madrid next season.

No he will be at Chesterfield, possibly his  level

Posted
9 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Wouldn't mind having Arnor Sigurdsson still on this team! 

Strictly as a #10 and with a guarantee he wouldn't spend half the season in the physio's room? Yes. 

Posted

Never been a Dolan fan but admittedly he works hard, isn't hampered by injuries and does all the things you'd want from him except deliver consistently.

Fact is, he isn't top quality.  If we hadn't constantly low balled him he could have been a decent if not spectacular member of this years squad.

Good luck to him.

 

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Posted
56 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Wouldn't mind having Arnor Sigurdsson still on this team! 

If anyone is missing Sigurdsson then something has gone horribly wrong. Poor player always injured.

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Posted

I am surprised, yer pleased for him, that he found that deal.  Can't but wonder if there is more to it.  He is not crap but he is not that good either.  Get an end product out of him and he will be a right good un.  Good luck to him.

Posted
1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Theres a moving of the goal posts by some.

The discussion was about what happens now. Talk about his arrogance, him being agent led, comparisons to Nyambe, talk about why he hadnt gone anywhere yet etc, all surrounding where he would go now and whether he should have stayed. 

He has already justified running his contract down and waiting by getting a very good move. That he could do so clearly wasnt fuelled by misplaced arrogance as it has come to fruition.

Havent seen any suggestions that people think he will thrive in La Liga, thats a totally seperate argument.

You need to remember your attitude in situations like this when it comes to those calling you out, to be fair

You cry wolf when it comes to bringing up your shocking claims around Szmodics or JRC. Alas, here you are, ready for a pound of Mani’s flesh

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