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45 minutes ago, alexanders said:

I will hold my hands up. I was not expecting the farewell message from Trav and it made me sad. He was my favorite player.ย 
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I think the contract situation is quite clear. He can earn more money elsewhere. He loved playing under Eustace who brought out the best in him.ย 
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understandable by both parties. Part of the game.ย 

This is an impressive display of willful ignorance, I'm sorry.

Posted
51 minutes ago, rob_of_the_rovers said:

Alternatively it's going for proven Championship experience over gambling on cheap European punts to come good

Iโ€™m just unsure as to how likely it is that the best Derby could find for those positions would all come from any single club.ย 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Travis is aย  real loss to this club. Same with Brittain - talented, experienced players who will be sorely missed over the course of the season

Neither should have been allowed to leave. Damn the owners and the pygmies running the Ewood operation

Looks like you call them out at your peril though.

Head down, toe the company line and your face will continue to fit.ย 

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, yeti-dog said:

For me, Travis is decent but no more than that.

I take off the the blue and white glasses and can't help but think about what went on with him at Ipswich.

Theoretically, he was the last piece of the jigsaw in terms of helping them to get over the finishing line. In reality he was a bit- part player at best.ย 

I think this season will be interesting and afterwards it'll be either; why were we stupid enough to let him go, or we should have got rid sooner.ย 

Hopefully the latter as that would suggest a successful season...

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I think Ipswich signed Travis as insurance policy in case Sam Morsy self destructed. He didnโ€™t, so Travis was hardly used. That tells me the management at Ipswich thought Morsy was a better player than Travis.

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Posted
52 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

I, for one, am not particularly sorry to see Travis go, nor indeed almost the entire โ€œleadershipโ€ group of players, none of whom struck me as leaders.

9 goals in 250 games is chronic for a central midfielder who allegedly has box-to-box tendencies - Super Atko got 34 in an almost identical number of games and at a higher level - and I tired of his pound shop Savage antics years ago.

The fact is that all these senior players effing off were part of one or more of our annual collapses, used to falling short. A bit like a couple of other posters, Iโ€™m intrigued to see a new style under a manager who is growing on me by the day.

Does Cantwell really strike you as more of a leader than Travis?

Posted
2 minutes ago, lraC said:

Looks like you call them out at your peril though.

Head down, toe the company line and your face will continue to fit.ย 

But we are now, er, all singing from the hymn sheet ๐Ÿ˜‰

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Posted

I donโ€™t mind your lady calling it out what I do mind is her being vague if your going to say your glad then tell us why

as I said earlier without something from yeah Buckley or Leonard then itโ€™s a case of โ€˜he said/she saidโ€™

if itโ€™s me Iโ€™m doing what Isak done and Iโ€™m coming out fighting my cornerย 

Posted
1 hour ago, aletheia said:

To keep fans onside -we did the best we could yada yada, it was the player's fault, nothing to do with us guv..

Nah, not when it comes from the manager. The club, yes! But IF thatโ€™s made up, VI has committed suicide in front of the lads and itโ€™s already over for him. They will do whatever they can to get him outโ€ฆ.and I just donโ€™t see that.

Managers rarely step over that line unless they have to. Eddie Howe hasnโ€™t publicly shamed Isak or even blamed him in that whole saga. For VI to publicly say that Trav has โ€œLet down his team matesโ€.

Also, honestlyโ€ฆ.based on the conversation I had with a Venkys employee (same level as Pasha) last year in Dubai. A) Venkys donโ€™t really care (weโ€™re just a line in the group P&L) and b) Pasha certainly doesnโ€™t care what we, the fans think.

Venkys are the WORST thing to ever happen to Rovers but I believe you and many others are barking up the wrong tree here. My understanding is that the problem is, they just donโ€™t really care either way.

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Posted
9 hours ago, alexanders said:

We have what looks like a very competitive squad now (who I think willv play this season):ย 


GK: Toth, MIchalski - Maybe weak here

RB: Alebiosu, Miller, Montgomery

CB: Hyam, Mclouglin, Carter, Wharton

LB: Ribeiro, De Neve, Pickering

CDM/CM: Tronny, Tavares, Baradji, Montgomery, Forshaw

AM: Cantwell, Henriksson, Tyjon

Wingers ish: Hedges, Kargbo, Miro

ST: Gueye, Ohashi

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I think we are weak in the spine , could do with an experienced GK maybe if/when Pears goes we will end up with a John Ruddy Tim Krul like back up , centre midfield looks week to me pinning a lot of expectation on the 2 new boys to be up to it and stay fit enough because I get dizzy thinking about Montgomery and Forshaw in my first team and only 2 strikers both of whose you could not bet your life savings getting into double figuresย 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Nah, not when it comes from the manager. The club, yes! But IF thatโ€™s made up, VI has committed suicide in front of the lads and itโ€™s already over for him. They will do whatever they can to get him outโ€ฆ.and I just donโ€™t see that.

Managers rarely step over that line unless they have to. Eddie Howe hasnโ€™t publicly shamed Isak or even blamed him in that whole saga. For VI to publicly say that Trav has โ€œLet down his team matesโ€.

Also, honestlyโ€ฆ.based on the conversation I had with a Venkys employee (same level as Pasha) last year in Dubai. A) Venkys donโ€™t really care (weโ€™re just a line in the group P&L) and b) Pasha certainly doesnโ€™t care what we, the fans think.

Venkys are the WORST thing to ever happen to Rovers but I believe you and many others are barking up the wrong tree here. My understanding is that the problem is, they just donโ€™t really care either way.

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Thatโ€™s why I personally have no issue with what Lesley Fielding posted. The manager has been somewhat vague and he still works at the club.ย 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Does Cantwell really strike you as more of a leader than Travis?

Cantwell strikes me as a better footballer than Travis.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, lraC said:

Thatโ€™s why I personally have no issue with what Lesley Fielding posted. The manager has been somewhat vague and he still works at the club.ย 

He wasnโ€™t vague at all. He said exactly what he wanted to say. He doesnโ€™t need to divulge EXACTLY what went on.

Itโ€™s been toxic for years at Rovers. Years and years in fact. I donโ€™t doubt that lots of people are disgruntled, but Iโ€™m also careful to reflect on the context of those who are complaining. Those bleating loudest are the ones who donโ€™t fit the mold. I wonder how โ€˜toxicโ€™ Yuki, Mori, Miller and Baradji are finding it?

Truth is, no one likes change. Weโ€™re definitely changing. God knows if it will work or not.

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Posted (edited)

At the risk of repeating myself my view is that having two very similar central midfield players was doing us no favours in the long term. ย Neither of them had much in their locker regarding either scoring or making goals. We were a pretty defensive outfit without ever becoming a team similar to the Howard Kendall team that seemed to win 1-0 every week. We had 7 at the back at times but still conceded goals. Something had to change if we were going to become a more attacking team.

I think now weโ€™ll have one defensive midfield player and an attacking central midfield player. Neither of Travis or Tronstad had the required ball playing skills to play the attacking central midfield role. I donโ€™t think either player has the necessary athleticism to do the amount of explosive running required in the role. I was surprised to see how short of real pace both of them were in the WBA game. OK it was early days in the season but they were both really pedestrian. You can get away with that in the defensive role but not in the attacking role.

In summing up players come and go, itโ€™s part of football. Am I heartbroken about Travis leaving ? In a word -no. When Wharton left I was inconsolable.

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Posted
28 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

I donโ€™t mind your lady calling it out what I do mind is her being vague if your going to say your glad then tell us why

as I said earlier without something from yeah Buckley or Leonard then itโ€™s a case of โ€˜he said/she saidโ€™

if itโ€™s me Iโ€™m doing what Isak done and Iโ€™m coming out fighting my cornerย 

Bloody hell ......but it's ok for the manager to come out in Public and say "Trav let us down" but not specify a reason?

Talk about double standards!

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

He wasnโ€™t vague at all. He said exactly what he wanted to say. He doesnโ€™t need to divulge EXACTLY what went on.

Itโ€™s been toxic for years at Rovers. Years and years in fact. I donโ€™t doubt that lots of people are disgruntled, but Iโ€™m also careful to reflect on the context of those who are complaining. Those bleating loudest are the ones who donโ€™t fit the mold. I wonder how โ€˜toxicโ€™ Yuki, Mori, Miller and Baradji are finding it?

Truth is, no one likes change. Weโ€™re definitely changing. God knows if it will work or not.

He said what he wanted to say, agreed, but do we really know what went on from his statement alone?

I think I know what went on, but not from what the manager said.

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Posted
1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Bloody hell ......but it's ok for the manager to come out in Public and say "Trav let us down" but not specify a reason?

Talk about double standards!

Exactly and this is why I described this as vague.ย 

Posted

The dressing room will miss him but on the pitch I think we will not miss him too much. He did ok but on an attacking sense we neec more.ย  However with a good extra forward we could find it hard to scoreย 

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Bit miffed Wrexham didn't steal in.

So we are looking for two more signings apparently. Obviously won't talk about a striker because RG won't want it thrown back it him when we fail.

The lack of loan players at Ewood could paradoxically make us look very attractive for a Prem club with a young striker they desperately want to see getting game time.ย 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

For the manager to call him out like that? I donโ€™t know whatโ€™s gone on, but why would you choose those words if you werenโ€™t making a point?

The same manager who called out his own staff to take blame for that loss at Birmingham?ย 

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