RoversTilliDie Posted August 30 Posted August 30 2 minutes ago, metalrover said: Playing Ohashi off the main striker probably is a better bet for me, not that I rate Gueye, but Ohashi is way too slow and weak as the main centre forward. We don't win many ariel duels in midfield. If they were betting at the bookies, it would be 100-1 on, rovers losing the midfield ariel duel. Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 30 Posted August 30 6 minutes ago, London blue said: Ipswich, Southampton, Leicester, Boro A few of the teams we haven't had to play yet and we've lost 75% of games. The Hull win was against a truly dreadful team. I'm sick of being told I'm overly negative. Travis for Tavares is a monumental downgrade and I'm supposed to believe we've improved? Fuck off. We need to improve drastically and quickly. We've played well in 3 of the 4 games and come away with 3 points. That's hugely concerning. Lots of decisions going against us, which makes things more difficult, but we're just not taking our chances. I hope this Gudjohnsen lad is good because fuck me Ohashi was shite today. He's an impact sub, nothing more. 2 Quote
Exiled in Toronto Mk2 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Despite the no-shows from Tavares and Kargbo, the six offsides from Yuki and Papi, the complete inability to shackle Sargent, we still had a higher xg than they did! Got to credit the spirit in the second half but boy are we missing a goal scorer. Quote
Popular Post Miller11 Posted August 30 Popular Post Posted August 30 That was absolutely grim. It would’ve been daylight robbery if we’d got a point there. The Hull performance appears to be the exception rather than the norm. Goals are going to be hard to come by. Special mention for Tavares who was spectacularly shit. I thought the early proclamations that he was an upgrade on Travis seemed daft at the time. If he’s not going to put himself about much he needs to really look after the ball. On first viewing I had concerns about how well he’d do when he was under any pressure - today his passing was miles off even when he was afforded time and space. More like a poor man’s John Buckley. Kargbo looks dreadful whenever he starts games. Coming off the bench and running at players he looked somewhat useful. De Neve is now about 7th choice winger. Alebiosu has really grown on me over the last couple of games. A bit raw, but positive in his play. Hope to god Watford, or anyone else for that matter, don’t come in for Hyam. McLoughlin got the right runaround today, the sending off was 100% deserved. Gueye was useful for a period last season, but he’s never going to be any good playing off the last man’s shoulder. He can’t stay onside for one thing, but giving him a ball to his feet 40 yards from goal is mostly going to result in comedy. Nobody can convince me that we wouldn’t be several points better off if we’d had Travis, Dolan and Batth in the side. 14 Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted August 30 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, Rover down South said: Hate to slate our own players but Gueye is poor. Really poor. He’s just a big lump that is nowhere near championship level, unlike similar sized players like Ellis Simms & Kieffer Moore that at least chip in with some goals. I think we all knew that last season he was bad but he’d built a good rapport with the fans and our good league position most of the season possibly deflected the criticism. Ohashi does offer something, but as lead striker, I’m not so sure. Probably better sat just off main target man. Gueye isn't an impact sub - he's poor in that role. He needs to start the game and cause chaos for 70 minutes. Ohashi missed a sitter, refused to shoot TWICE when the GK was miles out of position when they gifted us the ball and bottled it when played through (the Hedges 'chance'). He had an absolute stinker today. Quote
Nipper1875 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 As iv been saying all summer - the board the recruitment the managers team are all cheap replacements with no idea - the club is using this data bollocks for recruitment over the EYE naturaly watching the player which ohashi was watched. Tavares failed at leicster then happened to get an attitude he is a luxury player who needs an experienced player by the side of him - ie travis tronstad and let him ping a ball about cause he is to lazy to run and want the ball Kargbo is nothing but a forest gump run as fast as you can put a ball at his feet jesus christ that moves quicker and further than he runs its really poor coaching that he hasnt improved his 1st & 2nd touch of the ball - id seen e nough for the season after the bradofrd game but the past 2 have written any hope off he would struggle in league 2 Gueye at the time plenty of fans was calling sam gallagher an dmy words to a few friends be careful what you wish for cause we end up with a crazy headless empty head who can only fist pump a crowd - gives away stupid fouls at stupid times - cant find a pass - cant head it for size of him & again learnt nothing since arriving. Can bet de neve Harry leonard & Igor and wondering what the hell they have to do to get a look in with crap like that above them getting the nod. I could go on but today proved how poor we was when our defence had the ball norwich commited 4/5 players into our half diamon shape everytime knowing there was a mistake and the midfield had nothing to offer so they could pick up bits. This foreign cheap shite policy needs to end right now and find some experienced proven players i know the horrid club n eustace but they went and got morris knows the league horrible to play against and now scoring again after a fresh start from luton. GESTEDE IS HAVING A FIELD DAY WOLCING AROUND EWOOD BEFORE THE GAME WITH PASHA 3 Quote
Lancaster Rover Posted August 30 Posted August 30 1 hour ago, lraC said: It wasn’t a pen. Initial contact outside the box. Rovers TV showed a freeze frame at half time. To be fair to the referee I reckon 99% of the crowd thought it was a pen, certainly looked in the box in N05. Regardless, we got done by a big straight ball over the top and should have been 2 possibly more down prior to that. Whether it was a pen isn’t really the issue, it’s the fact that we were truly woeful first half. Tavares didn’t get near their midfield, McClean played the first half in his pyjamas Quote
Mike Graham Posted August 30 Posted August 30 3 hours ago, J*B said: I know I say it every week but Kargbo is rubbish. I have been saying this for weeks. He is dreadful and it takes 76 mins to get him off. I would have taken him off at 6 minutes. 5 Quote
Mike Graham Posted August 30 Posted August 30 I was sat with a group of Rovers junior players this afternoon and they were laughing at Kargbo and Gueye. Quote
B16Rover Posted August 30 Posted August 30 6 minutes ago, Nipper1875 said: As iv been saying all summer - the board the recruitment the managers team are all cheap replacements with no idea - the club is using this data bollocks for recruitment over the EYE naturaly watching the player which ohashi was watched. Tavares failed at leicster then happened to get an attitude he is a luxury player who needs an experienced player by the side of him - ie travis tronstad and let him ping a ball about cause he is to lazy to run and want the ball Kargbo is nothing but a forest gump run as fast as you can put a ball at his feet jesus christ that moves quicker and further than he runs its really poor coaching that he hasnt improved his 1st & 2nd touch of the ball - id seen e nough for the season after the bradofrd game but the past 2 have written any hope off he would struggle in league 2 Gueye at the time plenty of fans was calling sam gallagher an dmy words to a few friends be careful what you wish for cause we end up with a crazy headless empty head who can only fist pump a crowd - gives away stupid fouls at stupid times - cant find a pass - cant head it for size of him & again learnt nothing since arriving. Can bet de neve Harry leonard & Igor and wondering what the hell they have to do to get a look in with crap like that above them getting the nod. I could go on but today proved how poor we was when our defence had the ball norwich commited 4/5 players into our half diamon shape everytime knowing there was a mistake and the midfield had nothing to offer so they could pick up bits. This foreign cheap shite policy needs to end right now and find some experienced proven players i know the horrid club n eustace but they went and got morris knows the league horrible to play against and now scoring again after a fresh start from luton. GESTEDE IS HAVING A FIELD DAY WOLCING AROUND EWOOD BEFORE THE GAME WITH PASHA This reads like Chaddy's evil twin Quote
arbitro Posted August 30 Posted August 30 It really was a case of after the Lord Mayors Show today as I fully expected us to be doing the same things as we did so well at Hull namely intensity, aggression and a high press. In the first half we got none of these with Norwich being the dominant team as we put in our worst performance of the season in that period. The goal was no surprise but the way the penalty was conceded was awful. Just before that I was thinking I would have been delighted to go in level at half-time but that notion disappeared quickly and we were one down and had to play the second half with the men. Ironically we were better with ten men in the second half and started to do things that we should have done in the first 45 minutes. The two gilt edged chances we missed highlights to me were we really need to strengthen as I believe a natural goal scorer would have notched there. I think Ismael got it wrong today as for me he left Morishito on the bench for too long. We were crying out for some creativity and in my view he should have been on for the whole of the second half. Another but disappointment for me was the poor decision making by far too many players in the first half. Misplaced passes, poor choices of pass and so many with the wrong weight on them. We have a lot to do in the next couple of days in terms of bringing in the right quality of players and beyond that having them ready for Watford in a fortnight. 3 Quote
Bbrovers2288 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Not exclusive to rovers fans but what a difference a result makes, last week was full of positives and signings were all looking great, this week we are relegation certs and signings are all write offs. I’m not having a go, I’m annoyed as everyone but think we maybe need to realise we are where we are, as likely to have a good game as a really poor one currently. We are definitely a middle to bottom squad 1 Quote
superniko Posted August 30 Posted August 30 19 minutes ago, Nipper1875 said: Doesnt fancy anyone unless there french and crap Looking past the set 4 grammar…we’ve only signed 1 French lad and there wasn’t a single French player in our whole squad today, so leave that shit out of it. 3 Quote
Goozburger Posted August 30 Posted August 30 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said: Not exclusive to rovers fans but what a difference a result makes, last week was full of positives and signings were all looking great, this week we are relegation certs and signings are all write offs. I’m not having a go, I’m annoyed as everyone but think we maybe need to realise we are where we are, as likely to have a good game as a really poor one currently. We are definitely a middle to bottom squad That tells me more about people than results. A quick look on the childish nature of social media and grown men throwing tantrums, supposedly mature administrators as guardians of this very site calling players thick, and all the other rubbish that emerges after a defeat, tells me there is no patience in football these days. I'm not as much done with the game as I am with certain so-called Rovers "supporters", and I have zero problems calling them out or copping a ban for it. It's pathetic, and the team and manager deserve some time. Edited August 30 by Goozburger 1 Quote
smudger Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Just now, superniko said: Looking past the set 4 grammar…we’ve only signed 1 French lad and there wasn’t a single French player in our whole squad today, so leave that shit out of it. So he just fancies crap then? 2 Quote
alcd Posted August 30 Posted August 30 45 minutes ago, West Yorks Rover said: I'm sure Gudjohnson will improve the team, but he's not exactly prolific in front of goal, is he ? Chris Brown would be an improvement on Gueye. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted August 30 Posted August 30 1 minute ago, arbitro said: It really was a case of after the Lord Mayors Show today as I fully expected us to be doing the same things as we did so well at Hull namely intensity, aggression and a high press. In the first half we got none of these with Norwich being the dominant team as we put in our worst performance of the season in that period. The goal was no surprise but the way the penalty was conceded was awful. Just before that I was thinking I would have been delighted to go in level at half-time but that notion disappeared quickly and we were one down and had to play the second half with the men. Ironically we were better with ten men in the second half and started to do things that we should have done in the first 45 minutes. The two gilt edged chances we missed highlights to me were we really need to strengthen as I believe a natural goal scorer would have notched there. I think Ismael got it wrong today as for me he left Morishito on the bench for too long. We were crying out for some creativity and in my view he should have been on for the whole of the second half. Another but disappointment for me was the poor decision making by far too many players in the first half. Misplaced passes, poor choices of pass and so many with the wrong weight on them. We have a lot to do in the next couple of days in terms of bringing in the right quality of players and beyond that having them ready for Watford in a fortnight. That’s what separates the real players for the also rans. Decision making at speed under pressure. Getting it right. I can’t for the life of me understand why centre halves try to pull players back in and around the penalty area. Let the player go, loads of things can happen. The striker can shoot wide, hit the keeper, stumble over the ball etc etc. Pulling them back only ends one way. Even if your keeper saves the pen you’ve still got to play half the game a man down. Dumb footballers = Dumb football. 3 Quote
alcd Posted August 30 Posted August 30 44 minutes ago, roverblue said: Apart from Abesiou most of the new lads look crap. McGlloughlin cost us the game with a stupid red, Kargbo and Tavares with two of the worst performances I’ve seen in a long time at Ewood. Even then we still had chances to equalise or take a lead and messed them both up due to our pony attack. Genuinely think we are in massive trouble this season with our recruitment and lady luck deserting us most games. Hedges MotM for me. They've signed players for L1. It's planning for the future. 2 Quote
den Posted August 30 Posted August 30 I hate saying it but the club is rotten to the core. The owners, through the “directors” to Gestede, not one of them should be here. In fact, neither should many of the players. The whole ship needs rebuilding. 5 Quote
superniko Posted August 30 Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, smudger said: So he just fancies crap then? Exactly. Quote
... Posted August 30 Posted August 30 2 hours ago, rovers11 said: Feel sorry for the fans who paid good money to go to the game. Game over after 45 mins. On that note the idiot spouting racist abuse in upper jack walker. He was reported through the correct channels Absolute tosspot. Quote
RTM08 Posted August 30 Posted August 30 7 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said: Not exclusive to rovers fans but what a difference a result makes, last week was full of positives and signings were all looking great, this week we are relegation certs and signings are all write offs. I’m not having a go, I’m annoyed as everyone but think we maybe need to realise we are where we are, as likely to have a good game as a really poor one currently. We are definitely a middle to bottom squad It's more likely that different people have different opinions. Considering we have lost 4 out of 5 and that 1 was against a depleted version of an already poor team, I find it hard to argue we're anything but a bottom tier squad. We have to pray that something clicks in the next 2 weeks otherwise we'll be adrift by Christmas. 1 Quote
Popular Post RevidgeBlue Posted August 30 Popular Post Posted August 30 4 minutes ago, Goozburger said: That tells me more about people than results. A quick look on the childish nature of social media and grown men throwing tantrums, supposedly mature administrators as guardians of this very site calling players thick, and all the other rubbish that emerges after a defeat, tells me there is no patience in football these days. I'm not as much done with the game as I am with certain so-called Rovers "supporters", and I have zero problems calling them out or copping a ban for it. It's pathetic, and the team and manager deserve some time. What do you expect people to say after a performance like that? And, tbf, it's four defeats out of five this season, and an overall record of five wins three draws and nine defeats under Ismael. It's not just one bad game. 10 Quote
... Posted August 30 Posted August 30 27 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: We've played well in 3 of the 4 games and come away with 3 points. That's hugely concerning. Lots of decisions going against us, which makes things more difficult, but we're just not taking our chances. I hope this Gudjohnsen lad is good because fuck me Ohashi was shite today. He's an impact sub, nothing more. Maybe it's the service ohasi is receiving Quote
Ossydave Posted August 30 Posted August 30 Gueye has gone worse. I honestly think VI might have told him to stop dicking about as much and he's subsequently suffered as a result as he appears to have dipped in confidence. He's never been amazing but at the minute looks a complete lost cause. 3 1 Quote
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