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44 minutes ago, Fraserkirky said:

Wouldn’t be surprised if Smallwood gets loaned out aug 31st.

Based on Mowbray's post-match interview last night, I'm not so sure about that. I think Smallwood is one of the first names on the teamsheet, and it looks like Mowbray favours a Smallwood-Evans partnership in the middle. That's OK with me if it provides defensive cover, because we have a bunch of artists around and in front of them to do the rest.

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I don't think theres any chance of Smallwood leaving.

My suggestion on the soldiers and artists front, is that it surely should be rare that we include 3 soldiers (Smallwood, Evans and Bennett) in the same team.

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12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I don't think theres any chance of Smallwood leaving.

My suggestion on the soldiers and artists front, is that it surely should be rare that we include 3 soldiers (Smallwood, Evans and Bennett) in the same team.

Last season I'd have agreed when we had by far the best players in the league (bar Wigan) but this season, even with those 3 'soldiers', it won't be easy to stay solid. Millwall waltzed through us twice and Ipswich a few more times by all accounts. Smallwood and Evans aren't mobile enough to protect the whole of the back four on their own. No point leaving ourselves open and conceding for fun.

 

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3 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Last season I'd have agreed when we had by far the best players in the league (bar Wigan) but this season, even with those 3 'soldiers', it won't be easy to stay solid. Millwall waltzed through us twice and Ipswich a few more times by all accounts. Smallwood and Evans aren't mobile enough to protect the whole of the back four on their own. No point leaving ourselves open and conceding for fun.

 

I felt like the reason we were so poor in the first half v Millwall was not the number of defensively minded players, but more so the individual performances of those players. The horrendous ball retention of Evans and Smallwood in particular, as well as the lack of protection they provided was the reason that we were under pressure.

I believe we can play without a defensive winger in games, and still not play with wreckless abandon.

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6 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Millwall waltzed through us twice and Ipswich a few more times by all accounts.

It became evident last night without a proper tackler in midfield. Travis isn't good enough at that just yet, Rothwell looks to get forward, and Palmer can't be arsed, so it's down to Smallwood and Evans in the middle. Whether we like it or not.

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9 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

It became evident last night without a proper tackler in midfield. Travis isn't good enough at that just yet, Rothwell looks to get forward, and Palmer can't be arsed, so it's down to Smallwood and Evans in the middle. Whether we like it or not.

The problem was on Saturday, in that first half when we were all over the shop, they were our 2 worst players, and didnt do their job.

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40 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

It became evident last night without a proper tackler in midfield. Travis isn't good enough at that just yet, Rothwell looks to get forward, and Palmer can't be arsed, so it's down to Smallwood and Evans in the middle. Whether we like it or not.

Or bennett

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2 hours ago, Fraserkirky said:

Wouldn’t be surprised if Smallwood gets loaned out aug 31st.

Wasn't it in the papers that Sunderland were linked with him going there on loan ? It'd be a bit of a strange move with Cattermole already being there. Maybe they could fill in for each other when they get suspended !

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20 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Wasn't it in the papers that Sunderland were linked with him going there on loan ? It'd be a bit of a strange move with Cattermole already being there. Maybe they could fill in for each other when they get suspended !

Richie never got suspended in fairness to him. In fact he hadn't been the same player since then. It's like getting that many yellows made him re-evaluate shit with regards his style of play. Shame, because he was flying into way more tackles then. 

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16 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Wasn't it in the papers that Sunderland were linked with him going there on loan ? It'd be a bit of a strange move with Cattermole already being there. Maybe they could fill in for each other when they get suspended !

problem is Smallwood doesn't get suspended but becomes a fraction of the player when he is a card away.

Edit: BDS beat me to it by seconds.

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1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Wasn't it in the papers that Sunderland were linked with him going there on loan ? It'd be a bit of a strange move with Cattermole already being there. Maybe they could fill in for each other when they get suspended !

Isn't cattermole linked with a move to France or something (honestly I'm not joking) 

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Travelling up for this one. Can see TM starting Armstrong through the middle for this one. 

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20 hours ago, JacknOry said:

Think Bell deserves a run of games now and Williams should have to force his way back in. 

The way Mowbray talks, he favours Williams over Bell, but it sounds like Bell will be starting on Saturday due to Williams being injured.

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47 minutes ago, OnePhilT said:

The way Mowbray talks, he favours Williams over Bell, but it sounds like Bell will be starting on Saturday due to Williams being injured.

I would prefer bell to be honest. No Irish bias here folks! 

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Just feel Bell provides more width, can take a man on and has some decent pace. Needs to work on his end-product a bit though.

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1 minute ago, JacknOry said:

Just feel Bell provides more width, can take a man on and has some decent pace. Needs to work on his end-product a bit though.

Perhaps williams is more solid definsivley, but attack is the best form of defence in my book 

I think both are decent players to have. We are ok at left back 

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11 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Perhaps williams is more solid definsivley, but attack is the best form of defence in my book 

I think both are decent players to have. We are ok at left back 

Definitely, two different types of full backs with their own strengths. Just feel we have lacked one that likes to overlap and get forward when he can. As you say though, its an area we are okay in with those two.

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It will be very interesting to see if Travis, Bell and Rothwell all get a shot. Also as others have said Armstrong is an option through the middle too.

Maybe the squad isn't as threadbare as thought. Need to see if they really can step up though.

 

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Loves it, doesn’t he:

“We'll be turning up at a proper football stadium, with a proper atmosphere, with people around an hour or so before kick-off. We're looking forward to it. It's a lovely arena. It's a modern day, purpose-built stadium."

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