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January transfer window 2020

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30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

What could Rovers do if Player wants to return from loan? 

Say you signed for a season long loan with Wigan and we don't need you back here, sorry. 

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33 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Do the people working at Rovers have any idea what is happening at Rovers? 

Mulgrew the new Player Manager.

 

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2 hours ago, TheWeasel said:

I think across the board the centre back market is still a bit more baron than a few years ago on top of even more transfer inflation in the last few years. I think we can get around £10m for Darragh

Hmm, I’d be very surprised if we got that much for him mate. 

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Delighted to have Charlie back, best footballer we’ve got. 

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40 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Interesting one. If Mulgrew has decided to return and Mowbray hasn't requested it then I can foresee some difficulties arising. Waggott, Cheston and co. Will have budgeted for Mulgrew being out of the way until the summer. His return will cut off any contribution from Wigan towards his salary and leave our budget even more stretched.

The whole deal had a whiff of something not quite right to start with and I dont buy the party line that it was purely due to him facing increasingly limited game time.

I'm of the view that someone had to make way to accommodate Tosin and Cunningham's wages and in the end, after a summer of shenanigans, Mulgrew was the sacrificial lamb. Completely out of the blue, and Mowbray had made him captain v Charlton.

Not sure what his return means. Apparently Evans is out for the foreseeable with a horrific facial injury so perhaps he is bolstering numbers there too.

Personally if nothing else I'd use Mulgrew as a last 20 minute sub just for his free kick ability.

"Sacrificial lamb" 😂

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10 minutes ago, DE. said:

Say you signed for a season long loan with Wigan and we don't need you back here, sorry. 

If the contract says he has the right to move back to his parent club during January, then there is nothing the parent club can do to stop it.

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42 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

What could Rovers do if Player wants to return from loan? 

Sorry Charlie but you’re on 20 grand a week and have signed a contract to say Wigan are going to pay 50% of that. We don’t have 10 grand a week spare for you to play in our reserves. 

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Just now, J*B said:

Sorry Charlie but you’re on 20 grand a week and have signed a contract to say Wigan are going to pay 50% of that. We don’t have 10 grand a week spare for you to play in our reserves. 

Primary and secondry contracts.

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6 minutes ago, Giant said:

Delighted to have Charlie back, best footballer we’ve got. 

Further evidence that I know absolutely nothing about football. 

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Just now, J*B said:

Further evidence that I know absolutely nothing about football. 

or how contracts work

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18 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

He's got 18 months left to run on his contract, I can't se him just walking away from that unless he were to get a substantial upfront payoff. 

Yes he has. We have to get rid of him in the summer

11 minutes ago, DE. said:

Say you signed for a season long loan with Wigan and we don't need you back here, sorry. 

Very easy for us to say when we don't know why. look forward to Mowbray's press conference tomorrow

We don't want him here. Not good enough

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If Charlie was actually recalled by Tombola I wouldnt be surprised if he saw him as a solution to our LB -situation in one of his magical visions.

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8 minutes ago, toogs said:

If the contract says he has the right to move back to his parent club during January, then there is nothing the parent club can do to stop it.

None of us know without seeing the contract, but since it was done last minute it wouldn't surprise me if something like that was put in there to hasten Charlie's exit. 

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4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very easy for us to say when we don't know why. look forward to Mowbray's press conference tomorrow

We don't want him here. Not good enough

Agreed, although you have to admit it was quite strange for him to start and be named captain on the opening day if we didn't want him at all. There was no rumours of him leaving before roughly 4.30pm on deadline day either. 

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5 minutes ago, DE. said:

Agreed, although you have to admit it was quite strange for him to start and be named captain on the opening day if we didn't want him at all. There was no rumours of him leaving before roughly 4.30pm on deadline day either. 

But there were rumours of a bust up between him and Mowbray ?

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4 minutes ago, DE. said:

Agreed, although you have to admit it was quite strange for him to start and be named captain on the opening day if we didn't want him at all. There was no rumours of him leaving before roughly 4.30pm on deadline day either. 

I agree there. 

I said all Summer and part of last season that Mulgrew wasn't good enough for our team

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38 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Tip of the iceberg? You started to sound like another poster on here. 

 

I'm a realist and the reality is that as a club we are screwed. I know you don't see it that way and that's your prerogative but financially we are in ruins. We owe £180m and are on the cusp of either a points deduction and transfer embargo. Having to pay Mulgrews full wage will add to that.

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3 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

But there were rumours of a bust up between him and Mowbray ?

That was on deadline day wasn't it? I don't remember reading about it before then.

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Just now, arbitro said:

I'm a realist and the reality is that as a club we are screwed. I know you don't see it that way and that's your prerogative but financially we are in ruins. We owe £180m and are on the cusp of either a points deduction and transfer embargo. Having to pay Mulgrews full wage will add to that.

Clearly it won't help although I think I am right in saying that where players like Dack and Evans have injuries their wages may be covered by insurance so the net hit to budgeted numbers for wages may not be anything like as bad as feared.

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14 minutes ago, Scotland1 said:

Primary and secondry contracts.

Don’t think that it quite works like that.

However this is interesting, both his very quick departure and very quick return, Why?
Did he fall out with Mowbray, has he now fallen out with Cooke?
If both, it doesn’t look good but having said that, Mowbray appears moody and he changes his set up as the wind changes and I can see Charlie not liking that and speaking his mind.  With regard to Cooke, who appears to be a nasty piece of work, anyone could fall out with him, and Charlie who can be volatile maybe gave him a good kicking.  If so I am with Charlie.

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3 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Yes - and he left almost immediately after.

Indeed, which suggests we did want him here until something happened between the Charlton game and deadline day. Charlie did have a stinker in that match but he had plenty before then too and we were in no rush to move him on in the summer, so I'd be surprised if it was as simple as his performance at Charlton being the reason he was pushed out.

Edited by DE.

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1 minute ago, DE. said:

That was on deadline day wasn't it? I don't remember reading about it before then.

I can't remember who it was but it was said that Mowbray and Mulgrew had a full on shouting match during training on the morning of deadline day. By late afternoon he was gone. This was despite him signing a contract extension until June 2021 several months before.

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