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40 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Understand City only interested in a permanent deal and would be about £4million plus 25% sell on profit.

Worth it, why aren't we all over it ?

Oh yeah, he isn't a forward.

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4 million for Tosin would be a bargain. End of. Only going to get better aswell. 
 

Still feel like there’s a chance of him ending up on loan here towards the end of the window if he hasn’t ended up somewhere else. 

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3 minutes ago, TruRover said:

4 million for Tosin would be a bargain. End of. Only going to get better aswell. 
 

Still feel like there’s a chance of him ending up on loan here towards the end of the window if he hasn’t ended up somewhere else. 

I would say, time to throw in Greg Cunningham’s name (again), but he’s only played 30+ games in 3 years, due to injury. Anybody know his current fitness? 

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5 minutes ago, TruRover said:

4 million for Tosin would be a bargain. End of. Only going to get better aswell. 
 

Still feel like there’s a chance of him ending up on loan here towards the end of the window if he hasn’t ended up somewhere else. 

I don't think he's the greatest defender, but if they're only asking for £4m for him, I'd scrounge up the money and buy him outright (although I doubt we can afford his wages).

The loan fee would be substantial anyway - might as well own him. 

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5 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I don't think he's the greatest defender, but if they're only asking for £4m for him, I'd scrounge up the money and buy him outright (although I doubt we can afford his wages).

The loan fee would be substantial anyway - might as well own him. 

Yes, £4 million would be a great deal indeed considering Harrison Reed cost £8 million.

Tosin is the more talented player imo.

 

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2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I don't think he's the greatest defender, but if they're only asking for £4m for him, I'd scrounge up the money and buy him outright (although I doubt we can afford his wages).

The loan fee would be substantial anyway - might as well own him. 

Got a feeling the lad has only 12 months to run on his contract and City wont want to lose him for next to nothing given he will still be under 24 (just) next summer.  City would be entitled to compensation for training and development which can be far removed from a player's perceived market value which in such cases is irrelevant.

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18 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I don't think he's the greatest defender, but if they're only asking for £4m for him, I'd scrounge up the money and buy him outright (although I doubt we can afford his wages).

The loan fee would be substantial anyway - might as well own him. 

All the raw ingredients are there and at least we'd be growing our own instead of grooming one for someone else.

Mulgrews contract extension, Tosin loan fee, another loan this time. How much has been spent then over 3 seasons in that one position with little return on the pitch and did all off it.

Surely that doesn't appeal to these so called great business people.

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1 hour ago, Blue blood said:

1) We want a player who can play straight away and have trained with the team (hence why not going for a player who would quarentine.) Aside from the reasons it's daft as @roverclitheroe points out this directly contradicts your point about waiting to the end of the transfer window to buy players.

I haven't said wait to the end of the transfer window as far I know but what I think I said we have to bring in the right players at the prices we valued the player at and not over paying for players

1 hour ago, Blue blood said:

2) You give evidence for why quarentine is a problem and stopping people buying players abroad (which am not convinced on saying the number of signings from a full window to a partial window is misleading as is the financial restrictions in general,

The number are there to see, a drop in foreign signings. You are most than welcome to go and do your research on the drop off in terms of foreign signings?

I will posted the total number of foreign signings after the 5th of October  

1 hour ago, Blue blood said:

You even champion Linsey on loan which seems daft - loans should be left for quality otherwise unobtainable so that's an odd one to suggest.

Well I mention Liam Lindsay about 20 months as a potential signing for us. I suggested a loan to buy if he performs which is sensible deal for us and allow us to use money available for centre back permanent signing and left back. 

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1 hour ago, RovingRover said:

 

 

In fairness. No players have been training with us on trial etc.

Just our current crop including Mulgrew and Williams who we are actively trying to move on.

thanks for info and back up what my info was. 👍

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3 hours ago, Admiral Nelsen said:

The one thing which I'm taking some solace from is that the players who have been linked most strongly (i.e. the ones you mention) are exactly what we need, as I hope Kaminski is. 

Hopefully this is a sign that we're holding out for the best which is available, but time will tell.

The great is the enemy of the good.

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36 minutes ago, WacoRover said:

I would say, time to throw in Greg Cunningham’s name (again), but he’s only played 30+ games in 3 years, due to injury. Anybody know his current fitness? 

Getting minutes for Cardiff, but get the impression he will be used by Harris next season

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1 minute ago, Hasta said:

The great is the enemy of the good.

Be a different ball game if king gets snapped up, With a very good chance he will be moved on our Targets might  move up a level, said before worth the wait, Our side is capable of picking up points over the next few weeks

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44 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Dream on

Of course we could sell him, my point was he is under contract till 2022, as the club have the option of a further 12 months on his contract.

Sure you won't mind anyway you called it as a terrible signing when he was bought.Hopefully Buckley will prove you wrong also 

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This is concerning now, there doesn’t seem to be any obvious momentum or rush to get anyone in and Tony more often than not is cautious with new signings so we are going to be short on quality in certain areas.

poor show really we’ve long known the focus areas and not doing a good job addressing them 

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I truly believe we are waiting for Josh King to leave Bournemouth. I reckon Tony wants a higher quality centre half than the names already mentioned. 

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26 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Sure you won't mind anyway you called it as a terrible signing when he was bought.

I'm flattered you take so much notice. 👊

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A point about Nyambe and Rankin Costello, especially the former, he is in the last year of his deal and there have been suggestions that we could sell him should he be unwilling to renew, which I have no reason to believe he has, they at least wouldnt be able to go for nothing, assuming they stayed in England, we would get something due to their age.

No way does Adarabioyo get sold for 4m either.

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21 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

I truly believe we are waiting for Josh King to leave Bournemouth. I reckon Tony wants a higher quality centre half than the names already mentioned. 

King can't put himself in shopping window this evening, was terrible on friday against Austria and is on the bench tonight.

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3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

didn't know you were football agent or transfer expert? My apologises :rolleyes:

 

There's only one transfer expert on here.

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2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

A point about Nyambe and Rankin Costello, especially the former, he is in the last year of his deal and there have been suggestions that we could sell him should he be unwilling to renew, which I have no reason to believe he has, they at least wouldnt be able to go for nothing, assuming they stayed in England, we would get something due to their age.

No way does Adarabioyo get sold for 4m either.

And what fee do we get if he goes to club overseas like a French club? (genuine question)

Just now, Swanson said:

King can't put himself in shopping window this evening, was terrible on friday against Austria and is on the bench tonight.

and Norway arent missing him either. 

King needs to sort out his future out soon

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24 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

I truly believe we are waiting for Josh King to leave Bournemouth. I reckon Tony wants a higher quality centre half than the names already mentioned. 

It would be crazy to hold off doing any business on the hope that a player at another club gets sold and we get a small chunk of it, what happens if he isnt sold? What happens if he gets sold on the last day of the window?

We have struggled in the past to get deals over the line, to work on more than one deal at once and to appreciate the need for a fast start to a season. I very much doubt that we are waiting for a transfer to happen elsewhere to kick start things as some sort of strategy. 

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On 29/08/2020 at 08:13, Herbie6590 said:

The latest episode of the Price of Football podcast covers this. Derby used accounting practices regarding depreciation that are forbidden by UEFA but weren’t explicitly forbidden by the EFL. The EFL rules are going to be changed to comply with UEFA & Derby will have to come in line. 
Essentially they were not writing down the values of players in their accounts on a straight line basis which means smaller deductions in the early years of a contract but it catches up with you eventually when that player’s contract ends or they are sold for less than book value. Derby were essentially kicking the can down the road. 
The stadium sale valuation has apparently been justified. Its location on Pride Park helps it here, a few years ago now granted, I was looking for commercial property to rent in & around Derby & rents in Pride Park were very high relatively given location, proximity to rail station & so on.

So the EFL played a blinder here by not doing their homework & not detailing their rules adequately before challenging Derby. Derby’s lawyers did what they were paid to do by pointing it out & getting their client off the charges.

EFL having another go on the amortisation issue....

 

https://www.efl.com/news/2020/september/efl-statement-derby-county/

 

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2 hours ago, blue_n_white99 said:

What is also a major issue apart from the glaring holes in the defence are the contracts that run out in 2021:

Dack

Rothwell

Johnson

Holtby

Nyambe

Evans

JRC

+ a few I couldn't give a toss about, these will leave further massive holes in a squad that desperately needs bolstering. These lads don't need quarantining, analysing they need to be sat down and sold a future that they buy into so we actually have a team next year that doesn't mainly consist of U18s

Perhaps the plan is to allow all these players off on free transfers. Then nobody will expect any money to be spent because we don't receive any.

At a normal club the owners would be extremely concerned at the above and be instructing staff at Ewood to get it sorted.

Here though we stand to lose millions on these lads and the owners seemingly couldn't care less.

and we are supposed to be reassured because the club has an extra year's option on Dack. Forget about that and give him a proper extension.

Can't afford to do it? How about can't afford not to.

Mowbray has extensions on his mind. Needs a bit more than being on his mind. Needs to be in black and white and rubber stamped.

No evidence any talks are even taking place and looking at the inertia and lack of communication around the place and the disrespect they show to paying customers does anyone reckon they are on the ball in communications with players?

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

And what fee do we get if he goes to club overseas like a French club? (genuine question)

and Norway arent missing him either. 

King needs to sort out his future out soon

Why does he? Because it benefits us? King may not have had an offer at all yet, or if he has, an offer that he considers to be worthwhile both in terms of club and finances. We cant rely on things like that regarding our own budget. If he or any other player we have a sell on clause regarding moves on, it should be treat as a bonus as and when it occurs, not as something we wait around for and are reliant on.

Compensation is massively reduced abroad I think but I have no reason to suspect that Nyambe wouldnt sign a new deal and it is probably our own lack of having our house in order that has let him get into the last year of his deal, baring in mind he is one of only 2 competent defenders that we have.

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