Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted October 21, 2013 Moderation Lead Share Posted October 21, 2013 So, following yet another dismal and disappointing defeat in a game we really should have been winning, we move on to the next one. That being Blackpool away, last years game was a good day out on the sauce by the sea, ruined by 90 minutes of football, and where we witnessed Henning Berg and Michael Appleton pitting their wits against each other- in reality, in spite of a Blackpool victory there was no eventual winner. The time before, was a much better occasion, both teams in the PL, and after Rovers took an early lead, we were pegged back by a sub scoring with pretty much his first touch. However, in the 90th or so minute, Brett Emerton, debatably offside, trickled a pea roller into the far corner, and the travelling support went wild! So much so, I wasnt confident the then temporary stand would hold!! And Sam Allardyce decided to do a cowboy impersonation, and do his lasso celebration- frankly, it was a great moment all round, as the Blackpool fans had been less than gracious following their equaliser..... Anyway, I digress- Berg would soon be ousted, to be replaced by his conqueror that day, who served up some of the most negative, horrible football I can recall in my 20+ years of going to Ewood. Ill not be there this year unfortunately, no mates of mine fancied it, and I think after the last minute debacle at Wigan, its probably best I dont potentially wind myself up by going along as well!! Formed in 1887, 12 years after the Rovers, they gained entry into the Football League in time for the 1896-1897 season. They moved to Bloomfield Road in 1901, and like many grounds, following significant redevelopment, remains their home today. They had their most successful era in the 1950s with 4 top 6 finishes, the best being a 2nd place finish behind Man United in 1955-56. They won the 1953 FA Cup, and this remains their only triumph in the competition. In the same year, they had 4 players in the England team. The following Blackpool players made it into the Football League 100. Jimmy Armfield Alan Ball Peter Doherty (not that one) Sir Stanley Matthews Stan Mortensen Head to Head Blackpool have had the upper hand over us down the years with 21 wins to our 15, and 14 draws. Though, Rovers do have the record scoreline of 5-0 in a 1930 League Division One match. Players to play for/manage both clubs (that I/Google can find) Players Brett Ormerod (Began his career at Rovers) Ben Burgess (See above) Bradley Orr (I hope if hes able to play, our fans terrorise the mug) Alan Wright (Blackpool Hall of Famer, left just before the PL win) Simon Grayson (now managing arch-rivals Preston) DJ Campbell (Dudley with the gold teeth) Managers Paul Ince (Shoot and an arrow on a notepad) Michael Appleton (Harry Potters nemesis) Sam Allardyce Current Form Blackpool are currently 5th, and unbeaten in their last 5, Rovers on the other hand, lie 11th following back-to-back defeats, so will obviously be keen to address that. I can only hope that we dont have to suffer the huge indignity of losing to a team managed by Paul Ince. Especially given recent leaked referees reports exposing the guvnor as a very angry man indeed! A view from the oppo For this part- Ive consulted my good friend, former housemate, and Blackpool supporter James Ainsworth. How do you feel Blackpool have started the season, are you about where you expected to be at this point? (Granted its early days) James- Im very happy to be anywhere near the playoffs, never mind in them. The farcically low levels of investment in our playing squad led most fans to believe wed be bottom half all year- and thats the best case scenario! What are your views on Paul Ince? Has he surpassed expectations? (Bearing in mind how hes thought of at Ewood, and weve seen plenty of different managers recently!!) James- I have a lot of friends who are Rovers fans, and I know he isnt highly thought of at Ewood. I dont think hes loved yet at Bloomfield, but I think were all agreed that hes doing a pretty decent job so far. The team is a lot more functional than were used to, with lots of set pieces and long balls, but I think we realise its a means to an end (survival). Personally, I feel it was wrong place and wrong time at BRFC, anyone post-Hughes was onto a loser. We had a Blackpool fan on BRFCS before suggesting that hed swap Venkys for the Oystons- http://www.brfcs.com/mb/index.php/topic/29270-would-you-swap-the-venkys-for-the-oystons/presumably, living in East Lancashire yourself, this isnt a viewpoint you share?!- James- Well - up until this season I think it would be a toss-up. Again, with so many Rovers fans as mates, I've seen firsthand the debris that Venky's created over the last couple of years. However, the one thing you cannot deny that they have done is to provide financial investment - even if that has tended to go towards paying off managers or in the pockets of certain 'trusted' agents. Our problem with the Oystons is very simple - a lack of cash and, for myself, a lack of long-term goal-setting. I've heard from an ex-Burnley player (yes, I know this isn't what you guys would see as a credible source) that Karl Oyston offered him a job as Reserve-team manager. The basic wage was barely £13k a year and he lived in Rawtenstall at the time - no expenses, of course! What would be part of the contract would be a payment every time a player who had played in the reserve team setup was sold by the club. They just don't get it. They don't pay the going wages, they don't pay agents (not an entirely unpopular idea, to be fair) and they don't seem to have any kind of plan further than get to the end of the season with all our players out of contract and plan it from there. It's an approach that's barely worked down the road at Accrington Stanley, my hometown club, so it won't work long-term in the Championship. At this stage, given they've kept their gobs shut for a while, I'd have Venky's, no question. Finally, what is your score prediction, and who, in your view, should our patched up defence pay particular attention to? Score prediction - 1-0 to us, if not that then 0-0 or 1-0 to you! The danger man is Tommy Ince, no question. 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broadsword Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 how could you miss off tony diamond? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted October 21, 2013 Author Moderation Lead Share Posted October 21, 2013 how could you miss off tony diamond?Ha, I'm 29, so probably an age thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted October 21, 2013 Author Moderation Lead Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah, Beattie was on loan there probably should have done a bit more research with the players/managers, been a bit short of time lately sadly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Video. Blackpool v Rovers 1960. http://bps.britishpathe.com/hls-vod/flash/00000000/00084000/00084592.mp4.m3u8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Rover Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah, Beattie was on loan there probably should have done a bit more research with the players/managers, been a bit short of time lately sadly! Ignore 'em. Dilbert says... <a href="http://dilbert.comhttp://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2013-08-27/" title="Dilbert.com"><img src="http://dilbert.com" border="0" alt="Dilbert.com" /></a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancs Rover Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Yeah, Beattie was on loan there probably should have done a bit more research with the players/managers, been a bit short of time lately sadly! Good preview. Dilbert says... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Weaver Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 And just to get this thread on to a familiar Sam theme............ hasn't BFS managed both teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrT Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 it was a toss up between Alton Towers and Blackpool away this weekend. I chose the latter hope I made the right choice.....coyb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pk1875 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Still a few seats left Blackpool v Rovers - October 26th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Is the ex Burney player James refers to JH by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadsword Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Blackpool away this weekend. I chose the latter hope I made the right choice.....coyb The game or the pleasure beach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Hopefully we'll have more about us than the Charlton game but i just can't see us getting anything here. We still don't seem a physical enough outfit at times in this division. A comfortable 2 nil to the lashers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGS5635 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Bigger game than it appeared a few weeks ago. Hopefully we can get a result and get back on track 4-2-3-1 with williamson and lowe sitting and cairney pushed further forward into the dunny/rochina role. Big game needed from Kane this week facing ince. Looked shaky at timers this year, needs to be on his game this week tho 2-1 rovers win, king and cairney the scorers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMailsTightPerm Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Blackpool are a big team - and we need to avoid long hopefully balls - wouldn't be surprised to see Best dropped and reverting to a 4-5-1 formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rover_Shaun Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 2-0 to the home side now that the midfield balance will be lost until new year. Wrong the last two times, predicted rovers wins, so I hope I, and Bowyer, are proved wrong. (bowyer predicted that we would go on a bad run at the q&a) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somersetrover Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'd like to see us go 3-5-2 here as Spurr can play centre back and Kane's has been poor all season. Be nice to see Judge and Taylor get starts each as they both impressed me at the start of the season before they fell out of favour. My Team would be: Kean Dann Killgallon Spurr Taylor Cairney Williamson Judge King Rhodes Best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 If we were to play wing backs and 3 at the back, no way could we play King and Taylor, they are far too attacking and Ince would have a field day. I'd go: Kean Henley Dann Kilgallon Spurr Lowe Williamson Cairney Judge King Rhodes Subs: Eastwood, Campbell, Best, Taylor, Kane, Marrow, Marshall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 If we were to play wing backs and 3 at the back, no way could we play King and Taylor, they are far too attacking and Ince would have a field day. I'd go: Kean Henley Dann Kilgallon Spurr Lowe Williamson Cairney Judge King Rhodes Subs: Eastwood, Campbell, Best, Taylor, Kane, Marrow, Marshall. is Henley even match fit yet? didn't play for the under 21 last night my team would be Kean Kane Dann Kilgallon Spurr Lowe Williamson Taylor or Marshall Cairney King Rhodes Subs:- Eastwood, Marshall or Taylor, Judge, Best, DJ, Marrow, Henley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 That's incredible footage It's the FA Cup replay February 1960 on the way to the final, Dobing with two goals either side of the Dougan header 32000 on Bloomfield Rd that night but there were an incredible 51000 on Ewood four days earlier That's how huge the FA Cup was in them days It's impossible to explain to kids what a wonderful, charismatic thing the FA Cup was and how highly regarded a trip to Wembley - practically impossible other than in the cup - was A cup game against Blackpool in the 20's attracted nearly 61,000 on Ewood!! What a Kean allocation for this game. 1-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 is Henley even match fit yet? didn't play for the under 21 last night my team would be Kean Kane Dann Kilgallon Spurr Lowe Williamson Taylor or Marshall Cairney King Rhodes Subs:- Eastwood, Marshall or Taylor, Judge, Best, DJ, Marrow, Henley Marshall should be dropped, I think Judge deserves a start, Taylor was poor v Huddersfield, now Judge deserves a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggy76 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 is Henley even match fit yet? didn't play for the under 21 last night my team would be Kean Kane Dann Kilgallon Spurr Lowe Williamson Taylor or Marshall Cairney King Rhodes Subs:- Eastwood, Marshall or Taylor, Judge, Best, DJ, Marrow, Henley My god ! That is a poor team .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenrover Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 I'd rest Kane and play Lowe at right back in an effort to nullify Ince. Replace Lowe with Williamson in the holding defensive role and Marshall to be replaced by Taylor on the right. The rest as was in a 442. Hopefully we won't resort to lumping the ball forward to be gobbled up by a big Lasher's defence and try to get round the back on the wings. I'm not optimistic but nor was I at Bournemouth by the sea either! COYB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 My god ! That is a poor team .... how??? That is our best team from the players available? solid centre midfield and Rovers back to playing 4-2-3-1 formation. that formation suits us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAL Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 is Henley even match fit yet? didn't play for the under 21 last night my team would be Kean Kane Dann Kilgallon Spurr Lowe Williamson Taylor or Marshall Cairney King Rhodes Subs:- Eastwood, Marshall or Taylor, Judge, Best, DJ, Marrow, Henley Thats pretty much the team that played, finished and failed to score a goal at home to a poor Charlton team so what make you think they can do it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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