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These early games don't decide much,

Who will face Spain and who will face Portugal, some would say who will face Ronaldo...but it's still a team sport.

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Even if the usual Debbie Downers would put down Saudi and Egypt, this is a bit of a derby, they are still playing for regional pride.

 

 

 

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He has a couple of lines through the rest of the article On Alf Ramsay: ’He didn’t know the players like Walter Winterbottom, he was a bit naive at first. To be honest, the lads took the pis

Great piece in The Times today talking to England players from 1954 until 2014. Bryan Douglas talks about ‘58 and ‘62. It’s probably behind a paywall, so:      

Bullshit. They were nasty and tried every dirty trick in the book. Got what they deserved - out. 

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17 hours ago, roverandout said:

Colombia have 1 or 2 quality players...i would fancy us to beat them 9 times out of ten

I think most of James, Falcao, Cuadrado, and Zapata would walk into our squad, if not our starting line-up.  They've also got Mina who Barcelona splashed out 12m on so he must be decent too.  As for England, we've done OK but only just beat Tunisia - and were pretty average and predictable for two-thirds of that game - and yesterday we put an extremely poor side to the sword thanks to some excellent set pieces, one cracking goal, a lucky deflection and Panama thinking it was a WWE match and not a football one.  I think there's more to come from England, and we'd give Colombia a good game but I'd say it was at best 50/50 as to whether we'd beat them.  Also, I'd drop Ashley Young and Sterling, both of whom have done eff all in the first 2 games and replace with Rose or Delph and Rashford.  And James was poor at BM and RM?  28 goals in 77 games, at Real and 7 in 23 at Bayern from a midfielder is pretty decent in my book.

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Just now, MarkBRFC71 said:

I think most of James, Falcao, Cuadrado, and Zapata would walk into our squad, if not our starting line-up.  They've also got Mina who Barcelona splashed out 12m on so he must be decent too.  As for England, we've done OK but only just beat Tunisia - and were pretty average and predictable for two-thirds of that game - and yesterday we put an extremely poor side to the sword thanks to some excellent set pieces, one cracking goal, a lucky deflection and Panama thinking it was a WWE match and not a football one.  I think there's more to come from England, and we'd give Colombia a good game but I'd say it was at best 50/50 as to whether we'd beat them.  Also, I'd drop Ashley Young and Sterling, both of whom have done eff all in the first 2 games and replace with Rose or Delph and Rashford.  And James was poor at BM and RM?  28 goals in 77 games, at Real and 7 in 23 at Bayern from a midfielder is pretty decent in my book.

Agree on james..the rest may get into our squad but not first team..we were excellent against tunisia..and we slaughtered panama when most teams have struggled against the smaller nations this world cup..im very happy with our progress..unlike some..i was a bit harsh on james' record.

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1 hour ago, islander200 said:

Couldn't the same be said about England?They have done well and Southgate seems to have created a good team spirit and the tactics been spot on but they have played nobody yet

Never said england werent playing against poor opposition

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I knew the goalkeeper might block that penalty kick, he did....

Egypt's goalkeeper is 45 years old, oldest player ever in the World Cup....he's pretty spry.  I don't think he played in the prior two Egyptian matches, maybe he should have. El Hadari.

https://us.soccerway.com/players/esam-el-hadary/21388/

VAR looking at play, ref wants to give KSA another penalty, soft penalty, if it goes through.

 

 

 

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Let's face it. All the 'bigger' teams are facing poor opposition.

You could have easily predicted all the qualifiers out of every single group apart from H (incidentally I went for Colombia and Senegal).

 

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Think that Trippier, Henderson and Lingard were outstanding again.

Henderson got so much stick pre tournament and it continues at times but hes critical to this formation. Hes disciplined yet his passing range is progressive and varied, the pass in the fourth goal was absolutely brilliant. Hes so superior to Eric Dier and im pleased that Southgate agrees.

Trippiers delivery is brilliant, we look so much of a threat from set pieces, and so much is down to Trippier. Don't feel Young is half as effective and for me Rose should be playing.

Lingards ability to get forward and threaten is so useful, technically good and athletic, hes far better centrally than wide as he plays sometimes for United. Not 100% convinced by Loftus-Cheek, he has all the tools but I feel he doesnt impose himself as much as he should and we miss Dele Alli.

Sterling looks so less confident in an England shirt sadly, would have loved him to get a goal, maybe the media treatment has got to him.

Kane, goes without saying really.

First half was very good albeit v the worst team in the tournament.

Second half, we were pretty poor really, many reasons, temperature, the fact it was so easy, I do get that but both games weve come out the blocks and then to an extent run out of ideas. The goal was really sloppy to concede and not the first problem we had defending set plays so obviously that needs addressing ahead of the upcoming games. 

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26 minutes ago, Audax said:

Honestly, VAR in the Egypt/Saudi game took about 5 minutes,

Uruguay Russia in 68th minute, Eygpt Saudi in 62nd minute.

 

That was to give everyone a chance to switch channel and see Saudi's winner.

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Russia may have shown their true colours today, only defeating the two Arab teams, both of whom, I'd like to see do better but if history is an indicator, they likewise were true to form.  The next match, especially if it is against Spain, should well be their last but they made it into the final 16. That's got to be seen as a positive.

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Uruguay have got to be one of the favourites to win it they will be very difficult to beat in the knock out stages. They have two outstanding centre backs including the best in the world in Godin, they have two match winners up top and unlike in previous years they have some flair and creativity in midfield. As for Russia they were probably better of losing today as it means that they will play their last 16 game at the Luzhniki.

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7 minutes ago, Vinjay17 said:

Iran’s slogan on their team bus ?? "One Nation, One Heartbeat, 80 Million People...even women."

 

Sounds like it was written by Family Guy!

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TEAM MELLI BABY!!

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This appears to be from the 1970s before the current era of Iran:

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I know I'm looking ahead everyone but it looks most likely that England will play Japan.

Japan came back 2 times to draw up with Senegal.... Japan defeated Colombia.... so, take Japan lightly at your own expense, we know what happened in the last Euro.

Just funning around, I hope none of this is offensive to anyone.

 

 

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VAR in the Saudi Arabian/Egypt match. Is the ultimate decision to the referee? The Ref gave a penalty kick.

It went like this, about 3 minute review in the VAR room, then, the Colombian referee on the pitch went to watch the cameras himself near the sidelines after receiving guidance, this took about 1 -1 and a half minutes... It almost was like he was saying, "I saw it right the first time", I don't know if they can reject what the VAR room says.

 

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Quieroz, the Iranian manager is Portuguese... so Ronnie's a superstar, that is so, but Nani in the last Euro and in the 2000s, Deco, Figo and those others, they have had a lot of fine players.

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Oh come on it’s clearly a foul he’s cut across him and blocked him with his hip.

Its a foul on the halfway line and a foul in the box.

VAR still massively up in terms of correct decisions

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It's quite funny seeing internet world cup logic:

Supposedly Panama, Tunisia, Saudi Arabia and Egypt are terrible teams that's why Russia and England got through so easily . . .

Yet, when it's Spain and Portugal struggling . . equally as crap teams like Iran and Morocco are supposedly almost World beaters. ?

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