Premier League

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Newcastle deserved a lot of credit for the way they never gave up last night..very good game.

[RoverDom]

If you tried to pull out of a challenge and still raked down his legs like that then you are not in control of the challenge. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’ve not seen the incident but I don’t think slow motion replays should ever be allowed.

 

 

 

It always makes it look worse.
 

It’s a bit like when you’re waiting to come on as a sub. The game looks to be going at a million miles an hour from the touchline, Once you get on you soon get used to it.

[wilsdenrover]

10 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It always makes it look worse.
 

It’s a bit like when you’re waiting to come on as a sub. The game looks to be going at a million miles an hour from the touchline, Once you get on you soon get used to it.

My thinking is if the error by the ref is only picked up at slow motion how can it have been a clear and obvious one?

 

[Tom]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I do think that the ref should have stuck with original decision with that Gordon's tackle. When you slow it down, the tackle looks worst and worst. I think Gordon does try to pull out but his momentum takes into van Dijk . 

 

I think it was a blatant red at any speed, he’s gone in to do him not win the ball. 

The fact he’s tried to pull out is irrelevant as he still raked him down the calf. 
 

Stupid from the lad 

[chaddyrovers]

25 minutes ago, Tom said:

I think it was a blatant red at any speed, he’s gone in to do him not win the ball. 

The fact he’s tried to pull out is irrelevant as he still raked him down the calf. 
 

Stupid from the lad 

I don't for one minute think Gordon has gone in to do him at all. Dont think he's that type of players

[roversfan99]

That old chestnut. No one is ever "that type of player."

He probably didnt go out to injure him, he was probably just pumped up. But his challenge was high, wreckless and out of control and a red card was to be expected.

[Hasta]

1 hour ago, Tom said:

I think it was a blatant red at any speed, he’s gone in to do him not win the ball. 

The fact he’s tried to pull out is irrelevant as he still raked him down the calf. 
 

Stupid from the lad 

He's gone in at force and he's out of control, proven by the fact he has actually 'tried' to pull out of it but is so out of control that he can't and has still ended up raking him down the calf.

[chaddyrovers]

34 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

That old chestnut. No one is ever "that type of player."

He probably didnt go out to injure him, he was probably just pumped up. But his challenge was high, wreckless and out of control and a red card was to be expected.

That's old chestnut, lets not believe it, cos I don't agree 

yet the ref in real time give a yellow, replays always make it look much worse than it is. 

 

[London blue]

40 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's old chestnut, lets not believe it, cos I don't agree 

yet the ref in real time give a yellow, replays always make it look much worse than it is. 

 

So the ref gave a yellow because he didn't think Gordon was that type of player?

[GHD]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

I don't for one minute think Gordon has gone in to do him at all. Dont think he's that type of players

That doesn’t matter he was out of control

[DE.]

There was a period of the game when Newcastle players just seemed to collectively lose their heads. Gordon's tackle was definitely a red.

Thought Slot's post-game comments were a bit disingenuous, suggesting Newcastle were hoofing & fouling their way through the game. Other than a small period where they did seem to lose a bit of control, I don't think that was a fair reflection of the game at all. I can only assume he was deflecting from another questionable performance from his team. It could be the old "good team winning games whilst playing badly" trope, or it could be warning signs that there are things that need to be addressed in that team. 

[speeeeeeedie]

6 hours ago, Hasta said:

He's gone in at force and he's out of control, proven by the fact he has actually 'tried' to pull out of it but is so out of control that he can't and has still ended up raking him down the calf.

It was a sending off. I'll offer the two rather long stud marks on van Dijk's calf as evidence. Gordon did try to pull out. He did bend his knees at the last second but still caught van Dijk on his standing leg. The "not that type of player" tag is an illusion. All professional footballers have an aggression that could get the better of them. Some either control it, or are rarely in situations where it boils over for them.

59 minutes ago, DE. said:

There was a period of the game when Newcastle players just seemed to collectively lose their heads. Gordon's tackle was definitely a red.

Thought Slot's post-game comments were a bit disingenuous, suggesting Newcastle were hoofing & fouling their way through the game. Other than a small period where they did seem to lose a bit of control, I don't think that was a fair reflection of the game at all. I can only assume he was deflecting from another questionable performance from his team. It could be the old "good team winning games whilst playing badly" trope, or it could be warning signs that there are things that need to be addressed in that team. 

The emotion of the game both helped and hurt Newcastle. It allowed them to force Liverpool into mistake after mistake but it got the better of the aforementioned Gordon. Guimares and Joelinton spend most games booting people and were both lucky to stay on. Burn hoofed Salah who managed to get up so Burn did it again. Should he have gone? The ref booked him for the first challenge when he eventually blew the whistle. Even Trippier 

Slot definitely does need to sort out his defence. Konate has had a shocking start to the season. Kerkez has been at fault for 2 goals because he didn't defend the back post properly.

[Blow-in]

6 hours ago, London blue said:

So the ref gave a yellow because he didn't think Gordon was that type of player?

Isn't that his 3rd straight red card? That seems a lot for a winger who is not that sort of player.

Edited Tuesday at 20:07 by Blow-in

[RoverDom]

May we all take a moment to laugh at Man utd fans

[RevidgeBlue]

How long before Amorim comes under pressure?

Talks a great game, been allowed to sign some good players but............

[DE.]

Hard to see how he comes back from this. United didn't turn up until the last 20 minutes against League Two opposition, and it's not like it was an u23's team selection out there. 

Couldn't have scripted drama like that though. A late equaliser from United, they look set to go through on pens, then miss their 5th penalty. The penalties then go on for so long that the takers are being recycled. The miss then comes from one of their brand new signings.

I can't get over the visual of Amorim hiding on the bench during the penalties with his head down. That is ridiculous for any manager, let alone one at a supposedly big club. How can he expect his players to deal with pressure if he can't? 

[Blue blood]

24 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

How long before Amorim comes under pressure?

Talks a great game, been allowed to sign some good players but............

This is what gets me. Most of the players they have are talented and have shown they can do it at other clubs. Granted theres a few plodders but even excluding the new £200 million strike force,  last season they had some good players. Everyone just seems to get worse there. Shows how rotten the club is. It's a shame... 

[ageoftherover]

Just when you think United can't get any more hilarious...

[Upside Down]

8 hours ago, Blue blood said:

This is what gets me. Most of the players they have are talented and have shown they can do it at other clubs. Granted theres a few plodders but even excluding the new £200 million strike force,  last season they had some good players. Everyone just seems to get worse there. Shows how rotten the club is. It's a shame... 

No. No it isn't.

[Blue blood]

13 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

No. No it isn't.

It was sarcasm. I'm delighted. 

[DE.]

Amorim's post match interview sounded like a man who has given up all hope. Implied the players weren't playing for him. 

Personally think it's nonsense when a manager at that level is tied to one system and can't adapt. 

[TugaysMarlboro]

46 minutes ago, DE. said:

Amorim's post match interview sounded like a man who has given up all hope. Implied the players weren't playing for him. 

Personally think it's nonsense when a manager at that level is tied to one system and can't adapt. 

One of the issues with modern day football in my opinion and what's making it cumbersome to watch or enjoy.

What is he even saying in that interview? I know we don't see him day in and day out, but would you run through brick walls for him?

I'm getting the same way with Slot, he struck me as a bit arrogant last year at times, but he was being fawned over because it was all working. Two games in this season and he sounded like a right dick talking about Newcastle's approach being "not football". We all know the ultra Dutch way gets found out in this country.

[Vinjay]

Amorim trying to deflect blame to his technical director (apparently not allowed to say his name) recently in the usual backstabbing that goes on at that club. Jack Walker never behaved like that hopefully he will get what he deserves soon. 

[K-Hod]

3 minutes ago, Vinjay said:

Amorim trying to deflect blame to his technical director (apparently not allowed to say his name) recently in the usual backstabbing that goes on at that club. Jack Walker never behaved like that hopefully he will get what he deserves soon. 

Yes you are, it's just deemed as being a bit weird that you change it to something different, but that hasn't been stopped either.