Mattyblue Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago Not incredible to me, just standard for a lot of fans, they live in a team only bubble . 1 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said: What absolute tosh. Eustace (I think) had Birmingham in the play off positions when he was sacked there, had us in the play off positions when the management forced him out here and already has Derby within striking distance of the play offs. There's a bit of a pattern there........ I get the rivalry aspect but personally Id save the derision for ex coaches who were crap for us. So by the same token I guess you'd say we should have been waving plastic snakes (if they made them in those days) at Furphy, Lee, Smith, Kendall, Mackay, Dalglish, Hughes etc? Erm, let's not forget the first season he was here, with a decent squad that nearly got relegated - how many games did it take for him to win at home? He did well until Xmas last season and then left for better pay, more resources and a shorter drive to work. A very good coach who was always passing through. There were plastic snakes in the 70s as I had one. Never felt the need to bring it to games and don't now. Edited 23 hours ago by Paul Mellelieu 1 Quote
Elrovers Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, DuffsLeftPeg said: It’s no wonder protests never get off the ground with all this in fighting about irrelevant former managers. Thick as f*ck. The majority of our current fanbase are an absolute embarrassment, just like the goons in the boardroom and the weakest manager & squad in our recent history. #VenkysOut is all that matters. If you’re not behind it, you’re part of the problem. Our fan base is f****ng deluded and tapped in the head unfortunately. They give stick to anyone and everyone and don’t do enough to even slightly hurt the ones above. Edited 23 hours ago by Elrovers 1 Quote
Paul Mellelieu Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Elrovers said: Our fan base is f****ng deluded and tapped in the head unfortunately. They give stick to anyone and everyone and don’t do enough to even slightly hurt the ones above. All football fans do. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 1 hour ago, Paul Mellelieu said: Erm, let's not forget the first season he was here, with a decent squad that nearly got relegated You make it sound like it was all his fault. JDT for all his pleasing attributes definitely WAS taking us down. Eustace managed to stop the rot and kept us up. 1 Quote
oneandycrawford Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 8 hours ago, ... said: As our true family fan base deteriorates, we too become replaced by people who know no different. It's happening already. 15 years is a long time and rapidly sees a fanbase change. Out with the old in with the new That last point is the one that worries me. Would be interesting to know the age profile of the people who are leading any continued protests. The danger with the slow, and apparently, managed decline of the club is that the fan base is like the proverbial 'frog in water being heated up'. For any new fans the current situation is normalised. I remember clubs like York and Hereford playing in the old 2nd Division - how many of their current fanbase think that's where they belong or can realistically get back to. If Venky's stay in ownership for another 15 years then we risk going the same way, despite the fact our history is far more glorious than those clubs. 5 1 Quote
... Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 1 hour ago, oneandycrawford said: That last point is the one that worries me. Would be interesting to know the age profile of the people who are leading any continued protests. The danger with the slow, and apparently, managed decline of the club is that the fan base is like the proverbial 'frog in water being heated up'. For any new fans the current situation is normalised. I remember clubs like York and Hereford playing in the old 2nd Division - how many of their current fanbase think that's where they belong or can realistically get back to. If Venky's stay in ownership for another 15 years then we risk going the same way, despite the fact our history is far more glorious than those clubs. I glanced around at the Etonians game, the age group was a mature crowd , weary looking like they had seen it all and looked fed up. Hoping something will change soon because we're on the verge of being diluted for good Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Eustace probably felt,just the same as JDT, that the project had suddenly changed Chaddy...not what they were promised or led to believe when they signed contracts. Who do you think was doing any lying?🙄 Quote
Bronzed A Donis Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago We have some who think that because we spent a few consecutive seasons of our entire history in the third division, 50 years ago we are punching above our weight now and Venkys are model owners. Plenty of our own fanbase across the ages do us down, despite our average finishing position being something like 15th in the pyramid. I dont care where we are so long as the aim every season is to maximise where we can finish that year and make most of the club. Not some journey nonsense to sell young players without pressure on results. I'm resigned that we can't remove them. They aren't present, rich enough to ignore us. Suhail said biggest mistake was reducing season tickets by 30 quid, that tiny dent to income seems to have hit a nerve but they will just squeeze most out of whoever is left. 3 hours ago, oneandycrawford said: That last point is the one that worries me. Would be interesting to know the age profile of the people who are leading any continued protests. The danger with the slow, and apparently, managed decline of the club is that the fan base is like the proverbial 'frog in water being heated up'. For any new fans the current situation is normalised. I remember clubs like York and Hereford playing in the old 2nd Division - how many of their current fanbase think that's where they belong or can realistically get back to. If Venky's stay in ownership for another 15 years then we risk going the same way, despite the fact our history is far more glorious than those clubs. Quote
Waggy76 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 10 hours ago, roversfan99 said: The owners were the ones taking us down. That is true , they have wanted us down for a couple of seasons , in my view , they will make sure we are relegated this season ! Quote
47er Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Dread to think about the state of the squad by Christmas with inevitably more injuries and some suspensions. No question that the academy will get more than its quota of minutes. We are really up against it. Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 hours ago, ... said: I glanced around at the Etonians game, the age group was a mature crowd , weary looking like they had seen it all and looked fed up. Hoping something will change soon because we're on the verge of being diluted for good I couldn't face staying. I am sick of the whole thing. Sticking to the 135-15 theme! Why is Gestede getting such an easy ride? 2 Quote
... Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: I couldn't face staying. I am sick of the whole thing. Sticking to the 135-15 theme! Why is Gestede getting such an easy ride? I stayed just because they were probably the last greats we'll see kick a ball on our pitch. It felt like a farewell Blackburn Rovers 😟 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, ... said: I stayed just because they were probably the last greats we'll see kick a ball on our pitch. It felt like a farewell Blackburn Rovers 😟 It feels like a studied exercise in public denial. Fireworks, "What a great family club!..blah di blah", media team organising tributes from heroes of previous times-Dalgish, Speedie, Garner, Keeley, Gallacher etc. Me, I was crying out for just one of them to stand up and say, "But what is going on now is a total fucking shit-show! These owners are a disgrace. Why do you all put up with this crap?" 8 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 13 minutes ago, ... said: I stayed just because they were probably the last greats we'll see kick a ball on our pitch. It felt like a farewell Blackburn Rovers 😟 "Greats" is probably an extreme stretch for some of them out there. But I know what you mean. I can barely bring myself to watch anything from the Dalglish era now, it's too upsetting knowing what we were and comparing it to the husk of a Club we are now. 1 Quote
rigger Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: It feels like a studied exercise in public denial. Fireworks, "What a great family club!..blah di blah", media team organising tributes from heroes of previous times-Dalgish, Speedie, Garner, Keeley, Gallacher etc. Me, I was crying out for just one of them to stand up and say, "But what is going on now is a total fucking shit-show! These owners are a disgrace. Why do you all put up with this crap?" Even if someone did stand up and told the truth, some of the remaining fans would not accept it. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said: It feels like a studied exercise in public denial. Fireworks, "What a great family club!..blah di blah", media team organising tributes from heroes of previous times-Dalgish, Speedie, Garner, Keeley, Gallacher etc. Me, I was crying out for just one of them to stand up and say, "But what is going on now is a total fucking shit-show! These owners are a disgrace. Why do you all put up with this crap?" I get the impression Chris Sutton doesn't have much time for them. Need him and Robbie Savage to speak out a bit more on their show. Maybe the coalition could contact them? 2 Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted 4 hours ago Backroom Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: I get the impression Chris Sutton doesn't have much time for them. Need him and Robbie Savage to speak out a bit more on their show. Maybe the coalition could contact them? A bit disappointed Salgado didn’t speak up. He hates Venkys, loves the club, and has profile as one of the all time greats of his position. Edited 1 hour ago by Mike E 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Mike E said: I wasn’t specifically referring a bit disappointed Salgado didn’t speak up. He hates Venkys, loves the club, and has profile as one of the all time greats of his position. There's a few they upset from around that time. Nelsen as well. 2 Quote
Kjell Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 21 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Some fans booed Eustace and BBD, that's they choice. It's indeed their choice. It was also the wrong one. I, for one, am not annoyed that Eustace left, but extremely angry against our disgraceful owners and their compatriots. They are doing their best to destroy our 135+15 legacy. Quote
Gav Posted 47 minutes ago Posted 47 minutes ago (edited) Never let anyone tell you we need the Venky dollar, “we’ll got bust without them”….. VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS Edited 46 minutes ago by Gav 2 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted 37 minutes ago Backroom Posted 37 minutes ago 4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: "Greats" is probably an extreme stretch for some of them out there. But I know what you mean. I can barely bring myself to watch anything from the Dalglish era now, it's too upsetting knowing what we were and comparing it to the husk of a Club we are now. The criteria for "legend" appears to be "played for us at least a handful of times in any capacity, irrespective of talent or success". Quote
Dreams of 1995 Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago I haven’t bought the book but is it true that Jack Walkers name does not feature but the Venkys name does? Quote
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