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4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Its impossible to try too hard. Ultimately, its difficult not to be critical of a big money striker whose strike record per minute is up there with the very worst in the league.

Ach disagree but hey ho 

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3 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

The recruitment of a European scout is an appointment which will hopefully pay dividends for years to come, not one transfer window. 

This should have been done as soon as Mowbray arrived not 2 years later

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49 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Comparing Shearer to Gallagher is just daft. Shearer is one off striker. Best Striker in the PL history and I don't think I've ever seen a better striker in my lifetime.

No, far from it - but from my point of view, excusing away a 24year old's poor technical ability as if he is a young academy player is daft.  

 

But ok..ignore Shearer...so what's your excuse when we compare Gallagher's stats against the more mortal Rhodes (signed when 22) or Gestede (signed at 24/25) Matt Jansen who after banging in goals at the top two levels would be suffering his injury around Gallagher's current age...or even a much younger John Stead who (unlike Gally) could score at the top level at 21?

 

 

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1 hour ago, AdamRochina said:

its going to take him a few months to see our style of play and then go out and scout players for our style of play..

If anybody actually knows what our style of play is . Mowbray doesn’t know either .

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49 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

As a neutral, I need to tell you it's because you're almost always unable to provide him with a convincing counter argument. You repeat yourself because you don't have a better argument to offer even though your first wasn't convincing. You keep saying things like 'I already told you I think'. He knows what you told him you think, he's a smart guy. He's trying to tell you, you might well think it but your argument doesn't stack up because x, y or z. If you dont have anything new to reply with, I'd recommend you don't reply instead of repeating yourself to all of us.

Hope that helps. I'm not trying to have a go, just telling you how it comes across.

Prob best all round if a few others take this advice. Seems as though the answer to every question on every thread at the moment is how bad Mowbray is, what a waste of money Gally and Brereton are and how we don’t have a pot to piss in...so repetitive in fact that I’d be expecting bans for “inflammatory behaviour” if I hadn’t seen who continually ‘like’ them...👍🏼

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all this talk of european scouting is pointless,for whatever reason,we can`t even arrange a loan deal or transfer from this country,mowbray in the telegraph,bemoans the difficulty in getting a deal done,ffs tony,other clubs don`t seem to have a problem,quite how you are going to get deals done from europe is beyond me

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We really must have a crap budget if we are struggling to get anyone in. 

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Just now, Paul Mani said:

Prob best all round if a few others take this advice. Seems as though the answer to every question on every thread at the moment is how bad Mowbray is, what a waste of money Gally and Brereton are and how we don’t have a pot to piss in...so repetitive in fact that I’d be expecting bans for “inflammatory behaviour” if I hadn’t seen who continually ‘like’ them...👍🏼

Specifically in the transfer thread, theres absolutely nothing to discuss so the alternative to discussing major issues (the 12m we have spent and the managers performance, both key factors in us having certain issues with the squas and an empty kitty) is absolutely no discussion at all to be fair.

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4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Prob best all round if a few others take this advice. Seems as though the answer to every question on every thread at the moment is how bad Mowbray is, what a waste of money Gally and Brereton are and how we don’t have a pot to piss in...so repetitive in fact that I’d be expecting bans for “inflammatory behaviour” if I hadn’t seen who continually ‘like’ them...👍🏼

Sure, but you appreciate that goes both ways though, right?

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We really must have a crap budget if we are struggling to get anyone in. 

there must be some bargains going on the released or free transfer list

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Just now, bluebruce said:

You appreciate that goes both ways though, right?

Absolutely. 

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1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

As a neutral, I need to tell you it's because you're almost always unable to provide him with a convincing counter argument. You repeat yourself because you don't have a better argument to offer even though your first wasn't convincing. You keep saying things like 'I already told you I think'. He knows what you told him you think, he's a smart guy. He's trying to tell you, you might well think it but your argument doesn't stack up because x, y or z. If you dont have anything new to reply with, I'd recommend you don't reply instead of repeating yourself to all of us.

Hope that helps. I'm not trying to have a go, just telling you how it comes across.

Thanks for putting this nicely and clearly. This is my frustration too. 

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4 minutes ago, Proudtobeblue&white said:

Our budget went with BD's injury. Simple. There is no budget.

Well there should be at least the wages freed up by Cunningham going back.

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Just now, OJRovers said:

Well there should be at least the wages freed up by Cunningham going back.

Mulgrew is back. 

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Just now, OJRovers said:

Well there should be at least the wages freed up by Cunningham going back.

swallowed up by mulgrew coming back

 

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3 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

We really must have a crap budget if we are struggling to get anyone in. 

there must be some bargains going on the released or free transfer list

Ah, but the real question is, who has actually moved anywhere in the Championship so far in this window. I don't see any team tearing up trees to sign a whole new squad. It is what it is as far as the Rovers are concerned: We may bring someone in, which would be good (we hope), or we might not (which wouldn't be the end of the world, as we've seen what can be done if things go well for us). So, let's wait and see what develops, or not.. Que sera, sera.

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Just now, WIR Second Coming said:

Ah, but the real question is, who has actually moved anywhere in the Championship so far in this window. I don't see any team tearing up trees to sign a whole new squad. It is what it is as far as the Rovers are concerned: We may bring someone in, which would be good (we hope), or we might not (which wouldn't be the end of the world, as we've seen what can be done if things go well for us). So, let's wait and see what develops, or not.. Que sera, sera.

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2 minutes ago, J*B said:

Mulgrew is back. 

True.

Like a new signing!

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We had a minimal budget in the summer. It was pretty much loans and frees - Tosin, Downing, Johnson, Walton, Cunningham  - other than the exceptional funding allowance made for Project B Gallagher because someone fancied another punt on a buy on the basis it would reap big dividends after the Brereton one the previous summer.

Now granted - some of those signings have been good uns - Tosin, Downing, Cunningham until he got injured - and wages will not have been insignificant - but lets not make out like we've spent big or built on these guys. Come the summer most of them won't be here and those that are will be in the twilight of their careers. It's about as far away from the Brentford model as you can get - despite Mowbray referring to them as a template.

It is also worth bearing in mind that Cunningham was only done at the 11th hour presumably when the financial requirements were more favourable or when we finally found space in the budget by offloading Mulgrew for 6 months.

Money is virtually non-existent for transfer fees - as it was in the summer. The Gallagher and Brereton ones are special cases where someone chucked the cash in on the basis they were projects likely to pay off with interest in years to come. I don't believe that money could or would ever have materialised for other positions, or for several smaller purchases.

Mowbray and Waggott get their budget in May for the year and there it is. The only way we will see incomings in January is by shuffling around on the wage bill by offloading a couple for a few months or if we get lucky and manage to sell someone.

This talk about European targets, Polish wingers for £3 million, Venkys ready to invest but constrained by evil FFP rules is just fantasy land stuff. 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Prob best all round if a few others take this advice. Seems as though the answer to every question on every thread at the moment is how bad Mowbray is, what a waste of money Gally and Brereton are and how we don’t have a pot to piss in...so repetitive in fact that I’d be expecting bans for “inflammatory behaviour” if I hadn’t seen who continually ‘like’ them...👍🏼

As with Chaddy above, just because you don't agree with any of the above assertions doesn't necessarily make them wrong. Let alone "inflammatory behaviour".

I'd be more inclined towards the view that they went without saying and continually disagreeing with them was merely attempting to get a rise out of people.

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4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

blimey, Keep going back to the Brereton fee argument. I did admit the other week that I got it wrong. Its a shame that sadly some people are very petty and use this as a stick to beat certain posters with. 

Linked Grabban to Rovers? don't think so. His wages are too high for us. Maybe check things before you posted it. 

I rather we spend the money on keeper and defence departments which we need to this summer. Need at least 2 keepers and 4 to 5 defenders in this summer

You actually put the blame on Brereton for this fiasco, you said you were "disappointed" by his performances! Not quite the same is it? No blame attached to Mowbray who is presumably disappointed too! Not his fault though!

We would have all wished TM had bought 2 keepers ( or at least bought one and kept one) and a new defence months ago!  All the same problems this Board identified then are even more pressing now but we have no money because TM wasted it.

But you have full confidence in him, you no longer want him replaced?

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8 minutes ago, JHRover said:

We had a minimal budget in the summer. It was pretty much loans and frees - Tosin, Downing, Johnson, Walton, Cunningham  - other than the exceptional funding allowance made for Project B Gallagher because someone fancied another punt on a buy on the basis it would reap big dividends after the Brereton one the previous summer.

Now granted - some of those signings have been good uns - Tosin, Downing, Cunningham until he got injured - and wages will not have been insignificant - but lets not make out like we've spent big or built on these guys. Come the summer most of them won't be here and those that are will be in the twilight of their careers. It's about as far away from the Brentford model as you can get - despite Mowbray referring to them as a template.

It is also worth bearing in mind that Cunningham was only done at the 11th hour presumably when the financial requirements were more favourable or when we finally found space in the budget by offloading Mulgrew for 6 months.

Money is virtually non-existent for transfer fees - as it was in the summer. The Gallagher and Brereton ones are special cases where someone chucked the cash in on the basis they were projects likely to pay off with interest in years to come. I don't believe that money could or would ever have materialised for other positions, or for several smaller purchases.

Mowbray and Waggott get their budget in May for the year and there it is. The only way we will see incomings in January is by shuffling around on the wage bill by offloading a couple for a few months or if we get lucky and manage to sell someone.

This talk about European targets, Polish wingers for £3 million, Venkys ready to invest but constrained by evil FFP rules is just fantasy land stuff. 

 

 

My take on things too. 

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12 minutes ago, JHRover said:

We had a minimal budget in the summer. It was pretty much loans and frees - Tosin, Downing, Johnson, Walton, Cunningham  - other than the exceptional funding allowance made for Project B Gallagher because someone fancied another punt on a buy on the basis it would reap big dividends after the Brereton one the previous summer.

Now granted - some of those signings have been good uns - Tosin, Downing, Cunningham until he got injured - and wages will not have been insignificant - but lets not make out like we've spent big or built on these guys. Come the summer most of them won't be here and those that are will be in the twilight of their careers. It's about as far away from the Brentford model as you can get - despite Mowbray referring to them as a template.

It is also worth bearing in mind that Cunningham was only done at the 11th hour presumably when the financial requirements were more favourable or when we finally found space in the budget by offloading Mulgrew for 6 months.

Money is virtually non-existent for transfer fees - as it was in the summer. The Gallagher and Brereton ones are special cases where someone chucked the cash in on the basis they were projects likely to pay off with interest in years to come. I don't believe that money could or would ever have materialised for other positions, or for several smaller purchases.

Mowbray and Waggott get their budget in May for the year and there it is. The only way we will see incomings in January is by shuffling around on the wage bill by offloading a couple for a few months or if we get lucky and manage to sell someone.

This talk about European targets, Polish wingers for £3 million, Venkys ready to invest but constrained by evil FFP rules is just fantasy land stuff. 

 

 

Downing and Johnson will not have come cheap,million pound loan fee for tosin if reports are true,I'd imagine we are paying some of his 25 grand a week wage that he is on at City.Holtby would have got a significant signing on fee for him to join us and we paid out 5 million for Gallagher.

We did spend in the summer.Johnson was on good money at Derby with another year left he didn't sign for peanuts and neither did Downing.

 

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