Reedy You're A Star Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 He's a useful player to have on the bench. Can play CM, RB and CB reasonably well, but isn't a 1st teamer in any position. I'd much prefer a young lad with potential like Lenihan gets a run out than a serial under achiever like Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tomphil Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Just keep him off being the first name on the team sheet and keep him away from right back and I've no problem with Lowey. He's the type of player that either gets fit into a system as a functional cog or is just used as a squad man. He most certainly isn't the type to keep trying to build a team around. That's been tried and failed beyond doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Lowe may be a different player under Lambert. You have to give him that chance of getting fit and a few games in, before you make a proper judgement. At present you have to wonder if he'll come back from the injuries he's had. Evans' 3.5 year deal I can see us regretting pretty soon, Akpan although limited as a footballer, gives more cover, is more mobile, tackles better, and is more effective going forward than Corry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 I hope he does get fit again and get's back on track and it would interesting to see what Lambert does with him. However as a player he'll never be anything more than a water carrier imo. He'd look great in a decent league 1 side where he could just charge about then knock it short to the centre halves to lump it forwards time and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I am enormously looking forward to seeing Jason return. The lad has real ability and now will have a real boss to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiz Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I am enormously looking forward to seeing Jason return. The lad has real ability and now will have a real boss to play for. For the first time in his career! I agree with Donner meat about lenihan - he can spot a pass, gets his head up aswell as the defensive aspects. He could develop to be one of those box to box midfielders we've not seen since Jones. Still raw but he made a big difference vs Fulham and has got better the more I've seen him play. As for Lowe - he has some great attributes but has little if any finesse or creativity based on past endeavours. Chris Brown has been rightly praised for work ethic and putting the body on line recently - despite never looking like scoring, I think it's a similar thing with Jason. If JL can be used and has an impact through his sheer athleticism and effort - he also should be offered praise. He has useful attributes for us, let's not forget how weak the squad has become, if Lambo can get usage out of him as a first teamer or squad player - all the better for us. Stuart rightly points out, he can play in more than one position. A useful commodity at any level. I don't think PL would be as stupid as Kean- playing Lowe out wide right to be greeted by the derision of the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 I am enormously looking forward to seeing Jason return. The lad has real ability and now will have a real boss to play for.Let's not make things up, Philip. He has very limited ability and simply a good engine. If injuries have taken any kind of toll on his ability to run for 90 minutes then he is done.It's becoming an adage that the best players are always those who are injured but do not forget, he cannot tackle, cannot pass forward and cannot beat a man. Maybe played higher up the field he could be a Brown-lite (which would defeat the purpose a little) but I shudder to think of us carrying two non-footballers. Maybe he could be Brown's understudy? I certainly wouldn't drop any other of our current players to fit him in. A squad player providing injury cover and/or the last 10 mins to see a tight game out. That's all. A player to 'look forward to' as some kind of saviour? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnermeat Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I'm optimistic that Lambert can bring out the best in Lowe, he's not someone I would like to see leave the club. Have a feeling Lambert will be able to channel his work rate and versatility into something positive for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Let's not make things up, Philip. He has very limited ability and simply a good engine. Said about Robbie Savage too but I'm really glad we had him! Not that I think Lowe is in Savage's class but a good engine is an essential requisite for a defensive mid-fielder. It is possible that under a new regime Lowe could become a good spoiler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted February 20, 2016 Moderation Lead Share Posted February 20, 2016 Glad a few people see the same. We don't need Lowe to be Iniesta, but if we need a stopper/spoiler to run around and break up play, he's got the engine to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverside returns Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Jason Lowe was an England under 21 regular, he must have sufficient qualities to impress me play this game. He, like so many others, was being stifled by the odd tactics of GB. Give him the opportunity to get fit, be coached by forward thinking coaches and then get game time, then and only then should we be critical or otherwise of him. He may well turn out to be a mainstay for the future, a makalele or jermaine jones type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnermeat Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Glad a few people see the same. We don't need Lowe to be Iniesta, but if we need a stopper/spoiler to run around and break up play, he's got the engine to do so. We've never really seem him break up play either though, time after time they've waltzed through our midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Said about Robbie Savage too but I'm really glad we had him! Not that I think Lowe is in Savage's class but a good engine is an essential requisite for a defensive mid-fielder. It is possible that under a new regime Lowe could become a good spoiler? Providing he spoils the opposition attacks and not ours!If, and it's a big if, he can learn something new from Lambert and Irvine then yes, I will give him a chance, but the Lowe we have seen so far does not get close enough to the opposition to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 We've never really seem him break up play either though, time after time they've waltzed through our midfield. That's how I see it also. Like a lot of modern footballers - a good athlete but no real football intelligence. In a defensive role he's too easily drawn towards the ball instead of staying with the opposition runners coming from midfield. Going forward he's a limited player in that he finds it hard to get his head up and move the ball on any distance. Normally he plays a pass to somebody in the same position or worse than he is in. At right back his limitations are exposed less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBiz Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Bit contradictory that Tyrone, full backs need both athleticism and positional knowledge - I felt his strengths suited that role as opposed to his weaknesses being less exposed. I think he has the raw materials of a DM in this diamond. I always thought he worked well stopping counter attacks - reading the play and getting into a position to force the other team to regroup. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rigger Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I don't think that we as a club are in any position to turn our noses up at any asset that we have, no matter who they are. Let's see if the manager can get something of use for the team, out of Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I don't think PL would be as stupid as Kean- playing Lowe out wide right to be greeted by the derision of the fans. I remember the match at Carrow Road in our relegation season. Kean left Lowe totally exposed on his own on the right flank after he took Formica off and the lad did a brilliant job trying to cope with 3 attackers as Norwich poured down the flank. It's funny that some people see Lowe as a "non-footballer" but were defending to the hilt another "non-footballer" - albeit one who scored goals. It'll be interesting to see if Lambert can find a role for Lowe. He's been out a long time and it will be some while before he's fully match fit but personally, I think he has something to offer. Let's see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
had.e.nuff Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Depends what Lambert thinks of him of course. Has Lambert even commented on Lowe since he joined? Others must rate him or he would not have 16 england caps at the younger levels lets get him match fit and wait and see you never know . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 It's funny that some people see Lowe as a "non-footballer" but were defending to the hilt another "non-footballer" - albeit one who scored goals. how very begrudging - and patronising - of you.Jordan Rhodes Scores 1 in every 2 matches £17m in transfer fees - plus other formal enquiries Graduated through League One to the Championship Scored over 20 goals every season, including a 33 and a 40 goal season Coveted by PL clubs and signed for a promotion chasing club Fans' verdict: "Can't hold the ball up, get shut" Jason Lowe Attributes include passing (sideways and backwards to get those completion stats up) and running around £0 in transfer fees - no enquiries Played half a dozen times for Oldham and then over-promoted to our first team by Steve Kean - and given a 5 year deal after a few games - probably one of Rovers' highest earners (excluding loanees) Coveted by Blackburn Rovers fans Fans' verdict: "Has a good engine, must play" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDRover Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I am enormously looking forward to seeing Jason return. The lad has real ability and now will have a real boss to play for. Are you alright Philip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsall Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 It's a strange one with Lowe,most supporters hate him,but every manager we've had had,thinks highly of him,including England u/21 managers,I personally don't think he's good enough in midfield,and think right back is his best position,but who knows,new manager might get more out of him,will have to see how it goes,he's certainly not as bad as some of the dross we've had in the last few years.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim mk2 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Jordan Rhodes - "coveted" by so many Premier League clubs that none of them ever bought him. Lowe's a good lad - having suffered a long term injury myself as a player I know the frustration of being out for so long. I'm glad to see he's finally recovering and will be back on the pitch soon. Lambert may see a role for him or he might decide he needs to restart his career somewhere else. What he doesn't need when if and when he finally returns to the team is know-nothings straight onto his back because they don't like him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 how very begrudging - and patronising - of you.Jordan Rhodes Scores 1 in every 2 matches £17m in transfer fees - plus other formal enquiries Graduated through League One to the Championship Scored over 20 goals every season, including a 33 and a 40 goal season Coveted by PL clubs and signed for a promotion chasing club Fans' verdict: "Can't hold the ball up, get shut"Jason Lowe Attributes include passing (sideways and backwards to get those completion stats up) and running around £0 in transfer fees - no enquiries Played half a dozen times for Oldham and then over-promoted to our first team by Steve Kean - and given a 5 year deal after a few games - probably one of Rovers' highest earners (excluding loanees) Coveted by Blackburn Rovers fans Fans' verdict: "Has a good engine, must play" I certainly don't think "he must play" but if Lambert has a plan for him and he gets the chance, where's the harm in that? I would hate to see him sold cheaply and then come good,like one or two others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverside67 Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Lowe could solve the right back dilemma Other than that position I see little opportunity for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amo Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 Lowe will get a clean slate under Lambert, just like everyone else. I can't see him going anywhere in the summer anyway, as he's still returning from a long-term layoff. Personally, I'd keep him as a utility man for cover in midfield and RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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