Let's Talk Tyrhys Dolan

[dallydally]

14 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'd be absolutely astounded if he gets a PL offer, he's miles off that standard.

Totally agree. Flatters to deceive!

[MarkBRFC]

6 minutes ago, 47er said:

He had a good season for us and we finished 7th. I think many Championship Clubs would be interested, especially with no transfer fee. He's going to strengthen one of our rivals isn't he?

I think that's most likely.

Seen Rangers/Celtic mentioned too.

[Mattyblue]

He provides goals and assists, the opposite of flattering to deceive.

[Tomphil2]

2 hours ago, Upside Down said:

I'd be amazed if he was on more than 5k

Me also when you consider the very low starting point.

[dallydally]

26 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

He provides goals and assists, the opposite of flattering to deceive.

But hardly prolific!!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

16 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'd be absolutely astounded if he gets a PL offer, he's miles off that standard.

I like the lad but he’s playing at his level at Rovers.

[rigger]

42 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

He provides goals and assists, the opposite of flattering to deceive.

On a very irregular basis

[Eddie]

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

He provides goals and assists, the opposite of flattering to deceive.

His ultimate issue is his lack of pace. His style of play would require him to be significantly quicker if he were to be an impactful player at a higher level. He looks like he should be quick, but he just isn't. 

Stronger, faster, smarter defenders will have him in their back pocket. He could definitely join a more ambitious club in the Championship and find his way in the Premier League through promotion, or get a taste of European football by going to Rangers or Celtic, but if a Premier League team signs him, they will be making a mistake. 

[Mattyblue]

He has provided plenty, he’s been a key member of a side who’s spent years at the top end of the table.

Not sure anybody thinks he’s PL quality, but good luck to him if he has ambitions to get there one day.

Edited yesterday at 14:09 by Mattyblue

[Exiled_Rover]

6 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

So he was on £325 per week when he was playing in the first team, no doubt with bonuses but it gives an idea of why they want the squad full of academy players.

How much do we honestly think they offered him to sign again two years ago ?

£3250.00 pwk, which is ten times his initial wage ?

But would still be peanuts in Championship terms.

Now think back to Lenihen, Nyambe etc.....

Broughton tried to get him to re-up from that improved offer (whatever it was), but he turned us down. By the sounds of it he hasn't really been interested in renegotiating since then.

Who knows how much money he's left on the table in the short term by taking this approach - certainly several thousand pounds a week for two years. 

[Tomphil2]

11 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Broughton tried to get him to re-up from that improved offer (whatever it was), but he turned us down. By the sounds of it he hasn't really been interested in renegotiating since then.

Who knows how much money he's left on the table in the short term by taking this approach - certainly several thousand pounds a week for two years. 

Well yes but if he was being offered a significant rise then he wouldn't have done that unless he has a cast iron big offer from somewhere else.

3.5k to 7k for arguments sake is a hell of a lot of money over 2 years for anyone let alone a young player who'll be nowhere near millionaire status yet. So in my mind he just wouldn't turn that down he'd sign but have it negotiated in a buy out clause or something or other.

So i think he was either lowballed or offered the same but with a rolling extra year option or - a long shot - he was on enough to not bother when he was only offered a modest rise.

As you say 'who knows' but the pointers aren't particularly good on the clubs side knowing what we know and i don't think for one min they took a kid from £325 pwk onto a ten grand a week contract knowing the way they do things here.

And i'm not saying that's wrong i believe kids should have to prove consistency and improvement to jump up the pay grade but once they've shown it and future potential sales income they should be tied down accordingly.  I mean they threw a 5 year contract at Buckley after a few decent games and the difference between him and Dolan has always been night and day.

Edited yesterday at 14:49 by Tomphil2

[Wheelton Blue]

Whatever we each think of him ability wise, he'll get a gig at a decent Championship side paying him five-fold what he'd get working for our idiots, and will be financially set up.

So good luck to him.

The problem with losing Dolan - or indeed any other of our better players for that matter - is that whoever he is replaced with will undoubtably be worse.

[simongarnerisgod]

we`ll miss his work rate,thats a sad fact,he`s inconsistent but never shirks in the yards run stat

we are seemingly letting a another player go for nothing,you can`t run a football club like this and expect to stay in the division,sooner or later it`s all going to come crashing down,rovers must be the only professional club that don`t bother that their better players end up leaving for nothing we are also without doubt are the worst run club in the whole football league set up

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, dallydally said:

But hardly prolific!!

I mean, in an ideal world, we'd all like our wide players to be chipping in with 10 -15 goals per season but I really don't think 7 is that bad.

If he'd reached double figures that would probably have been regarded as an excellent effort. Not far off.

[Mashed Potatoes]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

we`ll miss his work rate,thats a sad fact,he`s inconsistent but never shirks in the yards run stat

we are seemingly letting a another player go for nothing,you can`t run a football club like this and expect to stay in the division,sooner or later it`s all going to come crashing down,rovers must be the only professional club that don`t bother that their better players end up leaving for nothing we are also without doubt are the worst run club in the whole football league set up

Didn't Mbappe leave PSG for nothing ?

[rigger]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I mean, in an ideal world, we'd all like our wide players to be chipping in with 10 -15 goals per season but I really don't think 7 is that bad.

If he'd reached double figures that would probably have been regarded as an excellent effort. Not far off.

But he didn't.

[simongarnerisgod]

28 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Didn't Mbappe leave PSG for nothing ?

blackburn,paris st germain and real madrid ---hardly the same comparison🤣😆

[Tomphil2]

So an itk account now putting it about Dolan has gone from lowest paid player to been offered to be one of the highest but snubbed it.

Predictable rubbish rinse and repeat from the Lenihen saga when after 18 months of nothing he was apparently offered to be one of the highest paid a few weeks before his contract ran out.

The player himself had a very different take on it.

Always the players who want out no matter what they are offered according to 'sources' but nobody ever asks why.

Edited yesterday at 19:00 by Tomphil2

[Andy]

23 hours ago, wilsdenrover said:

He’s moved on, so should we.

Absolutely my attitude.

If he's adamant on leaving, then let's move on and wish him luck.

For his sake, lets hope it's not another Nyambe situation.

[RevidgeBlue]

4 hours ago, rigger said:

But he didn't.

Sorry. Seven is decent imo.

Think Hedges has scored seven in four seasons at the Club.

That's probably the sort of standard that will be coming in to replace Dolan.

[47er]

4 hours ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Didn't Mbappe leave PSG for nothing ?

Yes, another Club goofed once so that makes our disasters OK! Typical.

[MarkBRFC]

11 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

So an itk account now putting it about Dolan has gone from lowest paid player to been offered to be one of the highest but snubbed it

Believe me, that is not an ITK account.

[JHRover]

11 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

So an itk account now putting it about Dolan has gone from lowest paid player to been offered to be one of the highest but snubbed it.

Predictable rubbish rinse and repeat from the Lenihen saga when after 18 months of nothing he was apparently offered to be one of the highest paid a few weeks before his contract ran out.

The player himself had a very different take on it.

Always the players who want out no matter what they are offered according to 'sources' but nobody ever asks why.

We will find out in time to come, if anyone ever bothers asking Dolan, that what is reported and claimed in the media and what actually happens at Rovers' end are two very different things.

As I keep pointing out - it is free and easy to put it out in the twittersphere or feed tid bits to Jackson/Bayes that the club are working hard, trying everything, making offers. That costs nothing and in return you get lots of fans swallowing it as the truth and believing a certain version of things. 

All the evidence in terms of what actually happens however shows that the club's approach - not just with Dolan but with pretty much every senior player going back 5 years - is failing and nobody should overlook that or forget it.

Already I am seeing too much of a focus on Dolan and his supposed desire to play in the PL as though this is the issue and it is his desire to play at a higher level that is the issue here. I call BS on that, the issue here is that Rovers have failed to sort out an appropriate extension in a timely manner, just like they have with everyone else and the excuses will follow in time to come with those as well.

[Tomphil2]

'Derby/Boro get 27k at home, our fans don't come, that's why players leave and they pay more'

Is the standard club defence mechanism for the deluded masses. 

Pointless pointing out Dolan was a first team player a few years ago earning £325 a week whilst this club has thrown £20k a week one or two year deals at the likes of Downing/Rodwell etc now Cantwell for very little in return.

That isn't investment, the likes of Dolan are.

Is he going to turn down even a two grand a week pay rise two years ago to stay on his current money to the end of his deal and just write off £200k so he can walk out into the unknown ?

Is he bollocks but if people want to swallow that more fool them.

He's been lowballed initially, changed agent and they've asked for big money, the usual stand off has happened, Broughton has left and its been shelved. SwagHail have eyed a bit of compo and the chance to swerve handing out a good contract.

And here we are another asset worth a few million off on another sideways journey.

Edited 14 hours ago by Tomphil2

[joey_big_nose]

On 30/05/2025 at 16:48, Tomphil2 said:

Well yes but if he was being offered a significant rise then he wouldn't have done that unless he has a cast iron big offer from somewhere else.

3.5k to 7k for arguments sake is a hell of a lot of money over 2 years for anyone let alone a young player who'll be nowhere near millionaire status yet. So in my mind he just wouldn't turn that down he'd sign but have it negotiated in a buy out clause or something or other.

So i think he was either lowballed or offered the same but with a rolling extra year option or - a long shot - he was on enough to not bother when he was only offered a modest rise.

As you say 'who knows' but the pointers aren't particularly good on the clubs side knowing what we know and i don't think for one min they took a kid from £325 pwk onto a ten grand a week contract knowing the way they do things here.

And i'm not saying that's wrong i believe kids should have to prove consistency and improvement to jump up the pay grade but once they've shown it and future potential sales income they should be tied down accordingly.  I mean they threw a 5 year contract at Buckley after a few decent games and the difference between him and Dolan has always been night and day.

My theory is Dolan is relatively close with BBD, Lenihan, Rothwell and discussed the huge financial upside on going on a free with them. Decided hed rather go for that rather than say an extra 3k-4k a week... Over two years 4k a week is about 400k. He might be able to get a 1M signing fee plus a much higher salary on a free.

The issue is we've created the case studies to make going on a free almost the sensible choice for any aspirational player.

Edited 4 hours ago by joey_big_nose