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[J*B]

7 hours ago, StHelensRover said:

This is why I think people should be careful what they put online and not just post rumours as fact. It undermines genuine points/arguments and makes supporters look like they don't know what they're talking about.

 

 

 

Agreed. Stick to the facts. 

[Mike E]

3 hours ago, rigger said:

Why should us plebs know the truth ?

I’m as frustrated as you are, and I’m sure @K-Hod is too. But it isn’t in any way his fault or the fault of any fan that attends.

[Tomphil2]

Arsenal eh, now who do we know who supports them and has also been a provider of bodies to BRFC ?

[MarkBRFC]

@K-Hod was Yasir challenged on his point that "Rovers have only ever had an average of 23k (including away fans) once and that was in 94-95"?

We had an average of over 25k the season before and during when these idiots rocked up, and many more seasons during the 00's and 90's.

Seems a very stupid thing for a senior official who is in charge or ticketing to say??

[Mattyblue]

We had a higher attendance than 94/95 in 95/96, 97/98, 98/99, 2001/02, 2002/03, 2009/10 (wonder what happened in 2010 for it to be the last?) than 94/95. 96/97 and 2010/11 was pretty much the same as 94/95 give or take a hundred or so.

We had over 23,000 in every PL season with the expanded ground apart from between 2005 and 2007, and in 2011/12 (can’t imagine why).

To be fair suppose we can’t expect a Blackburner who was an Arsenal fan through those years to recall off hand…

Edited yesterday at 08:38 by Mattyblue

[Lucimo]

12 hours ago, J*B said:

Agreed. Stick to the facts. 

Hope the mole sends this lot to him, I won't hold my breath for Yasirs response.

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, MarkBRFC said:

@K-Hod was Yasir challenged on his point that "Rovers have only ever had an average of 23k (including away fans) once and that was in 94-95"?

We had an average of over 25k the season before and during when these idiots rocked up, and many more seasons during the 00's and 90's.

Seems a very stupid thing for a senior official who is in charge or ticketing to say??

This was one of many that Duncan picked up.

The discussion moved quite quickly at this point, as I'm sure you can imagine!

[Tomphil2]

Said it many times before but this want it to be a small club so it stays within their own limits to run it.

A nice comfortable ride and paycheck, don't ask for owners money beyond the minimal and place low expectations on yourselves, bat off fans pressure by passing the buck to the ownership who never speak 'it's their money' etc etc

It's one thing not going boom and bust but another altogether holding it back on purpose to suit your own agendas.

 

[RevidgeBlue]

 

9 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Said it many times before but this want it to be a small club so it stays within their own limits to run it.

A nice comfortable ride and paycheck, don't ask for owners money beyond the minimal and place low expectations on yourselves, bat off fans pressure by passing the buck to the ownership who never speak 'it's their money' etc etc

It's one thing not going boom and bust but another altogether holding it back on purpose to suit your own agendas.

 

You also have to wonder with all the various implosions over the years, whether there's an element of turkeys not voting for Christmas amongst the players. Do we have anyone currently who could genuinely cut it at PL level?

Regardless, let's hope tomorrow is the start of us breaking that cycle to the chagrin of the 3 stooges.

Edited yesterday at 12:16 by RevidgeBlue

[SuperBrfc]

Funny how they want to make repeated comparisons with Leeds now to protect those above them.

If you want to compare with Leeds, why don't we do it properly? I think Yasir and the clueless Pasha need reminding about the following:

1) In the 2009/10 season, the year before your bosses turned up, what Division were Blackburn Rovers playing in? What Division were Leeds in? I'll tell you:

Blackburn Rovers - Premier League.

Leeds United - League One.

2) November 21st 2010. Two days into Venky's owning Rovers. Where were Rovers in the League table and where were Leeds? I'll tell you:

Blackburn Rovers - 11th in the Premier League.

Leeds United - 5th in the Championship.

Why did Rovers, who have no fans, have the upper hand and why were the scary, humongous, "they've got loads of fans", Leeds United nowhere near us? I'll tell you why:

It's because one club was superbly ran by proper football operators and the other, wasn't.

In the 15 years since, the roles have reversed. Why do you think that is, Yasir? It couldn't possibly be due to the same reason, but in reverse, could it?

What a silly suggestion. It's probably because Leeds are massive, they have such a huge fanbase that Rovers can't even hope to compete with them. Nothing to do with how the clubs are ran. We ought to be grateful for having Pasha and Venky's around, I suppose.

We've seen individuals at this club display a familiar trait of saying things along the lines of "that was 12/15 years ago" and "that was before I was at the club", when presented with certain facts. The length of time does not make those facts or our feelings irrelevant.

The decline of this club, from what they picked up in November 2010 to this present day, has all happened under Venky's watch. Pasha has been here, officially since 2015, but was involved in the takeover from the outset.

They are still here, going on about projects and player development, and are now trying to hide behind Leeds, which is why these points are very much relevant.

They should be ashamed and embarrassed to be crying about Leeds, when you consider the above facts from 2010. They won't be, though.

I get some of the claims about Parachute Payments, of course those clubs are at an advantage today.

However, why don't you think about why Leeds and others are in a position to benefit from Parachute Payments in the first place?

Leeds appointing Marcelo Bielsa was a statement. A statement that they were serious about returning to the Premier League. Can you see Pasha making such a move or recommending such to those in Pune? There's nothing stopping him from doing such things.

You need to have football knowledge, ambition and a will to do such things, though.

You're not telling me that you would swap Kroenke et al for Venky's and Pasha running Arsenal, Yasir. The team you support. Not a chance. Therefore, at least try to understand where we are coming from rather than the "some fans will always be negative" sentiment.

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, K-Hod said:

This was one of many that Duncan picked up.

The discussion moved quite quickly at this point, as I'm sure you can imagine!

is Duncan Miller a new member to the Fans forum? 

[K-Hod]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

is Duncan Miller a new member to the Fans forum? 

First time I can recall him being on it, aye.

[only2garners]

Duncan replaced Mike Graham as the rep for WATR - Mike resigned as he had too many other commitments.