Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[Kjell]

6 minutes ago, 47er said:

Ismael's probably here till his contract expires. No idea where the Club will be then.

Makes no difference whether he stays or goes.

He's not impressive but the real problem is elsewhere

I do not disagree regarding the real problem, but Ismael seems more 'aligned' with that problem than his two predecessors.

[roversfan99]

27 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Selling Hyam without a replacement coming in is affecting us. We need another centre back signing in the summer. Wharton is very good but im not certain 2 left footed at centre back will work. 

Ismael wanted Baradji deal done. 

On the striker front, how many proven championship goalscorer is there out there and how much do they cost? 

 

Whether Ismael wanted the Baradji deal done or not, which is pure guesswork, it doesnt mean it was the right deal to do.

Youve always said that youll judge Ismael on results. His results have been shocking, his record appalling. So based on that, I presume you want a change?

[jim mk2]

Ismael lasted barely an average of 7 months at all his previous clubs before being booted out

He”s now been with us about 8 months or so (?) so he’s already overdue another sacking. 

He may not be the whole problem at the club but it must be obvious he’s going to get us relegated. The man’s a dud.

And he’s here for over 3 years, which should be plenty of time.  to take us down to league 2.

the only hope is that he resigns out of shame 

 

[Waggy76]

9 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Ismael lasted barely an average of 7 months at all his previous clubs before being booted out

He”s now been with us about 8 months or so (?) so he’s already overdue another sacking. 

He may not be the whole problem at the club but it must be obvious he’s going to get us relegated. The man’s a dud.

And he’s here for over 3 years, which should be plenty of time.  to take us down to league 2.

the only hope is that he resigns out of shame 

 

Spot on , he is going take the flak from the fans along with Gestede , as we hurtle to the National League !

Like most of the players signed during the summer , he too should never have been employed !

I am not sure , some of the players are good enough for the National League . But I am bloody certain Ismael isn't !

Edited 5 hours ago by Waggy76

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Whether Ismael wanted the Baradji deal done or not, which is pure guesswork, it doesnt mean it was the right deal to do.

Look at all comments out there. Ismael wanted Baradji and Morishita all summer. Both here. 

21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Youve always said that youll judge Ismael on results. His results have been shocking, his record appalling. So based on that, I presume you want a change?

Well what else would you judge a head coach on other than Results RF99? 

I wouldn't change at the minute. Probably given him until the International break then review then for me. I will post my opinion then RF99 for the board to see. Last season results dont matter now. My opinion will be based on this season 

[Ghost7]

48 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Selling Hyam without a replacement coming in is affecting us. We need another centre back signing in the summer. Wharton is very good but im not certain 2 left footed at centre back will work. 

Ismael wanted Baradji deal done. 

On the striker front, how many proven championship goalscorer is there out there and how much do they cost? 

 

Ismael wanting Baradji doesn’t change anything I’ve said. All that does is make me doubt him further as a manager - even if he turns out to be a good player. Other positions needed to be a priority and every player had to be able to play.

I also didn’t say proven Championship striker. I said proven goalscorer. I’d expect it to cost £3 - £4m today realistically. If you’re interested in doing reasonably well in this league.

A good centre back I’d expect to cost £2m also, for what it’s worth. Javov Medic at Norwich and Wrexham’s Hyam being good examples.

We left ourselves in a position due to further boardroom negligence where too many players exited at the same time, meaning the budget was spread too thin across high risk, cheaper players.

If an owner was interested they’d fire whichever individuals put them in that position in the first place and I’m talking proactively - as it was happening. Interested owners would know it was happening and wouldn’t allow it. If it did happen they’d fire whoever was responsible.

I’m seriously starting to question who owns the club. Something isn’t as it seems.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Im giving him till the two home games next week...minimum required four points or feck off.

Pull your finger out Ismael,this isn't damn well good enough.

[roversfan99]

22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Look at all comments out there. Ismael wanted Baradji and Morishita all summer. Both here. 

Well what else would you judge a head coach on other than Results RF99? 

I wouldn't change at the minute. Probably given him until the International break then review then for me. I will post my opinion then RF99 for the board to see. Last season results dont matter now. My opinion will be based on this season 

He is always going to say that he wanted every signing made. It doesnt make them all sensible or good signings. And again because youll bring it up, the manager should be having final say, I dont know if Ismael does, but even if he does, it doesnt mean I have to automatically agree with those signings. Would you agree that overall recruitment this season seems very worrying?

Would you say that you are concerned about how bad results are this season? A record of played 10 won 2 and lost 7 just this season is terrible even if you are trying to reduce the sample size by removing last season. Im sensing a shift as before the international break you said you was confident that Ismael could turn it around. Im guessing this confidence has waned? Where do you think we will likely finish this season?

Edited 5 hours ago by roversfan99

[MarkBRFC]

Chaddy had the correct opinion on Ismael back in March, unsure why he has flipped it back as he's done nothing to justify it.

He's a loser, who isnt being helped in anyway by the club to not be a loser.

[chaddyrovers]

15 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

Ismael wanting Baradji doesn’t change anything I’ve said. All that does is make me doubt him further as a manager - even if he turns out to be a good player. Other positions needed to be a priority and every player had to be able to play.

We have to wait and judge the player ability when he plays and why Rovers want him so badly here. I understand people over signing an injured player. 

15 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

I also didn’t say proven Championship striker. I said proven goalscorer. I’d expect it to cost £3 - £4m today realistically. If you’re interested in doing reasonably well in this league.

We should have signed Brandon Thomas-Asante when he Salford. We could have signed him last season and we didnt. 

On your £3-4m range. We signed Gudjohnsen for £2m. But we dont created enough good chances as a team. 

15 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

A good centre back I’d expect to cost £2m also, for what it’s worth. Javov Medic at Norwich and Wrexham’s Hyam being good examples.

I wouldn't have sold him in the first place but we should have signed a proper replacement. Storey at Preston or Watford Mattie Pollock for example. 

[Hasta]

You feel Ismael is so entrenched with Rudy that you can’t see him being sacked. It would just be admitting that everything they have got everything drastically wrong.

[BankEnd Rover]

Yep, im giving him the next 2 games to come up with some points. 

We've been playing okay but his stats don't lie and there's a reason we are where we are - If we loose both games then the club HAVE to sack him.

[Hasta]

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

On your £3-4m range. We signed Gudjohnsen for £2m. But we dont created enough good chances as a team. 

I agree to a point, but also good strikers will get chances due to movement and awareness. When Szmodics was banging 30 goals in, it wasn’t cos we were supremely creative. It was mainly because his movement was top notch and the rest of the players had been coached well enough to look for that movement. Dack got a lot of goals due to his awareness in the box. He knew when to make a run and where to be to have the best chance of picking up the pieces. 

[roversfan99]

Gudjohnsen has also had big chances. He had 1 in each home game and not only did he mess them up, he didnt even get a shot away. Yesterday, his own poor movement meant that a potential chance in the first half became a half chance.

His hold up play has been dreadful too. Regularly, not only does his poor control and awareness not keep the ball for us, it gives it to our opposition for a counter attack. It cost us a goal v Stoke.

We also dont have time to "wait and judge" Baradji. We are in the bottom 3. We signed a player knowingly with a long term injury. We can judge that decision as a bloody stupid one.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

8 minutes ago, Hasta said:

I agree to a point, but also good strikers will get chances due to movement and awareness. When Szmodics was banging 30 goals in, it wasn’t cos we were supremely creative. It was mainly because his movement was top notch and the rest of the players had been coached well enough to look for that movement. Dack got a lot of goals due to his awareness in the box. He knew when to make a run and where to be to have the best chance of picking up the pieces. 

Things that are hard to coach into players.

[Upside Down]

33 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Chaddy had the correct opinion on Ismael back in March, unsure why he has flipped it back as he's done nothing to justify it.

He's a loser, who isnt being helped in anyway by the club to not be a loser.

It doesn't align with party policy.

In one season they've deliberately relegated both the men's and women's teams. That's quite an achievement even for them.

[Tomphil2]

In the position we are in you need a gaffer who can grind out results with the lightweight bunch he has even if performances stink.

We've seen it all before and nothing changes that's what you need but we are bang back in the realm of tepid football, nice in patches but exposing weaknesses in key areas every game.

He neither has the nous nor the will to sacrifice the nice patches in favour of defend from the front and protect the backline at all costs. Instead it's the usual guff of possession stats and if this went in or the ref didn't do that we'd be ok, rinse and repeat.

[RoversClitheroe]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

We have to wait and judge the player ability when he plays and why Rovers want him so badly here. I understand people over signing an injured player. 

We should have signed Brandon Thomas-Asante when he Salford. We could have signed him last season and we didnt. 

On your £3-4m range. We signed Gudjohnsen for £2m. But we dont created enough good chances as a team. 

I wouldn't have sold him in the first place but we should have signed a proper replacement. Storey at Preston or Watford Mattie Pollock for example. 

Its hard to read anything you post anymore.

You praised Gestede for a great window.

You praised Valerian as a good appointment.

[47er]

2 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Im giving him till the two home games next week...minimum required four points or feck off.

Pull your finger out Ismael,this isn't damn well good enough.

It would be a shame if he became the focus of our discontent through. Pasha and Gestede would love that!

If a campaign to sack him succeeded we'd just be back in the same position. They'd only hire a new dud.

Look what happens to any manager who's had any clue.

[Tomphil2]

The solution here is sack Gestede then Ismael will probably walk as the two imo are joined at the hip.

Better still sack Suhail and get rid of all 3.

[lraC]

4 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

The solution here is sack Gestede then Ismael will probably walk as the two imo are joined at the hip.

Better still sack Suhail and get rid of all 3.

If only Carlsberg did football sackings 

[DE.]

If you can't afford a decent outlay on a striker, then your next best bet is to make your team defensive and hard to beat. Squeeze out victories from small margins and concede as few as possible. We sold our last reliable, experienced defender at the end of the transfer window instead. Gross incompetence if the goal is to stay in the division. 

[Tom]

2 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Im giving him till the two home games next week...minimum required four points or feck off.

Pull your finger out Ismael,this isn't damn well good enough.

You know what will happen we will ‘play well’ and be ‘unlucky’ and come away with a point 

[Mattyblue]

That window just gone confirms there is no goal of staying up, but no selling up goal either… why?

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4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Selling Hyam without a replacement coming in is affecting us. We need another centre back signing in the summer. Wharton is very good but im not certain 2 left footed at centre back will work. 

Ismael wanted Baradji deal done. 

On the striker front, how many proven championship goalscorer is there out there and how much do they cost? 

 

At this stage You'd have to be looking at throwing a sum at an out n out striker now. We cant keep going on amd on defensively, we need goals. Can't win without em. We've enough to cling to at the back let's go for a better top line.

 

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