unleaded Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 54 minutes ago, aletheia said: Crossed Pasha over the liaison officer debacle? Him being unavailable for nearly 2 years might be a bigger reason … As for the Liason officer she kept quite for 20 years but she was glad to bite the hand that fed her on the 21st year !! Strange Can you really see the likes of Leonard going up against the Posh Chaiman once they have made a Admin personal decision…. It’s not their place … Glad Travis Buckley & Leonard have gone both for their sakes & the clubs Hopefully Pears is not here when Tuesday Sunlight breaks … 1 Quote
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Polky Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, bluebruce said: But this season in the Eredivisie is only 3 games in? 2 for some teams. Yes you’re right, early days but the player I was on about was very dominant in second division scoring 52 goals in two seasons. 3 games in and hasn’t scored yet and has history of not scoring in the first division. Main point is scoring loads in the second division of Dutch football isn’t a sign of a great player. Quote
Christopher Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: 3 in 20 last season seemingly. Didn't play 1800 minutes. Quote
Polky Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Wharton called up for England squad.  We’ll be due another windfall when he makes a competitive appearance for England. Hopefully that’s during the next international break. 7 Quote
Backroom Tom Posted 3 hours ago Backroom Posted 3 hours ago From a football perspective not sad to see Leonard leave, I think he has a good strikers brain but has been bullied more often than not when I’ve seen him. Can see him being a handy league 1 forward but it’s good money if we can get it for him. 4 Quote
bluebruce Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Oh is that his son? I thought they had weird naming conventions over there? I wasn't expecting him to be a Gudjohnson.  44 minutes ago, philipl said: Yes, he should be Eiderson I had the same thought (although it's 'sen' at the end not 'son', so Eidursen), but Eidur's sons are all Gudjohnsen and so was Eidur's father. Quote
Jimmy612 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, bluebruce said:  I had the same thought (although it's 'sen' at the end not 'son', so Eidursen), but Eidur's sons are all Gudjohnsen and so was Eidur's father. I used to work a lot in Iceland, and surnames are always 'Father's first name... sson'. If you look at the Icelandic squad listing, vast majority are 'sson' at the end, i.e. Arnor Sigurdsson. Not sure the reason for Gudjohnsen, but it isn't normal - unless the name isn't Icelandic (perhaps previous generations weren't from Iceland). A bit of additional trivia for you all. Women surnames are all 'Father's first name... dottir.' EDIT: Bit of research shows he is actually called Eidur Arnorsson. Gudjohnsen is just family tradition. Edited 3 hours ago by Jimmy612 2 Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago These striker links are a little strange. Either we are just bidding for random strikers or Nixon is just throwing darts at a dart board. I cant for one second see us getting 2 strikers. One seems more likely now we are getting an unexpected fee for Leonard. And even if we did plan for 2, I would prefer to put any money together and just get 1. Neither of the 2 mentioned seem like anything other than cheap youngish punts with underwhelming goal returns in inferior leagues. 1 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted 3 hours ago Backroom Posted 3 hours ago Would have loved to see Leonard come good, but I never saw anything, even when he was fit, which suggested he'd be able to cut it at this level as a first teamer. If we've got £1m for him with some add-ons/clauses then I think that's great business. 2 Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, DE. said: Would have loved to see Leonard come good, but I never saw anything, even when he was fit, which suggested he'd be able to cut it at this level as a first teamer. If we've got £1m for him with some add-ons/clauses then I think that's great business. Tend to agree with you especially after the seriousness of his injuries but there is still a nagging doubt that this transfer we may regret . Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said: Disagree, need someone who's got a good chance of hitting the ground running and who's arguably better than Ohashi and Gueye even if it's only a loan. If you're going to gamble you might as well give Leonard a proper chance. Mm, I wouldn’t call that a gamble. I’m pretty sure how that will pan out. Quote
dingles staying down 4ever Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: These striker links are a little strange. Either we are just bidding for random strikers or Nixon is just throwing darts at a dart board. I cant for one second see us getting 2 strikers. One seems more likely now we are getting an unexpected fee for Leonard. And even if we did plan for 2, I would prefer to put any money together and just get 1. Neither of the 2 mentioned seem like anything other than cheap youngish punts with underwhelming goal returns in inferior leagues. I think a lot depends on when Leonard's started to stir. We were in for one striker before Leonard's exit became public so if Leonard's transfer has dragged on then we probably have that wage earmarked for the one. But if the deal has come out of the blue possibly there is enough for two wages. Please note how Ive not included the fee as we all know the fees dont effect the transfer budget. Quote
aletheia Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 30 minutes ago, unleaded said: Glad Travis Buckley & Leonard have gone both for their sakes & the clubs Hopefully Pears is not here when Tuesday Sunlight breaks … Time and results will tell. Look foward to 7th or above. Certainly saved on wages. Matchday will be interesting - so many permutations and changes. Going to be fun. Quote
alex l Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: These striker links are a little strange. Either we are just bidding for random strikers or Nixon is just throwing darts at a dart board. I cant for one second see us getting 2 strikers. One seems more likely now we are getting an unexpected fee for Leonard. And even if we did plan for 2, I would prefer to put any money together and just get 1. Neither of the 2 mentioned seem like anything other than cheap youngish punts with underwhelming goal returns in inferior leagues. Is this not us following the Brentford/Brighton model but scaled down? Buy relatively unknown, youngish players for lowish fees in the hope some are a huge success and sold on for multiple times of their cost. As much as was said otherwise it does appear fees received are being to some level re-invested Quote
philipl Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 43 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said: I guess we have Tyjon, Carter, Wharton and Montgomery still. 3000 mins is 33 full games between them (average of 8 games each) over the season which doesnt seem totally ridiculous. Michalski and/or Goddard if Toth gets injured. And there are other youngsters who could progress as the season develops. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Paul Mani said: Nah mate. You’ve only got to have watched him and listened to his coaches to know that his ceiling is VERY high. If he’d been fit, like Bucko and not hitting the heights then I’d have happily waived him off. But for a million quid, why not just loan him for a season? If he can stay fit and score goals, we’ve got a great lad coming back to us next summer. If he flops, and / or continues to breakdown, then he’s had his chance. Like I said, this is the one I’m gonna stick my nick out in and say, well regret! What did you see in his game thst gave you that impression ? I alway think that if I’m playing against this player what do I have to look out for ? What I saw was a player who wasn’t a handful physically, not particularly big, not particularly tricky with the ball at his feet, not particularly quick, no real “ hold up “ play to speak of, and when he eventually got a chance he usually fluffed it. I think £1 million is a great deal for us. They must have signed him going off memory because when did they see him play ? Obviously I respect your views mate, so we’ll see who’s right before too long. Edited 3 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces 2 Quote
47er Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, alex l said: s this not us following the Brentford/Brighton model but scaled down? Not really no.Brentford and Brighton are not flogging off their best players for peanuts or allowing players to go for free or selling them to keep the lights on. A clue---they're successful. Â 1 Quote
JHRover Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago So after being preached to for the best part of 10 years that we need to use our Category A academy more, use home grown players rather than pay for them from elsewhere, pathways into the first team blah blah blah we spent the whole summer doing the complete and total opposite of that and are now selling our academy graduates to the likes of Derby, Charlton and Peterborough after putting in years of development. It's almost as though we're just making it up as we go along. 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Polky said: Wharton called up for England squad.  We’ll be due another windfall when he makes a competitive appearance for England. Hopefully that’s during the next international break. Maybe that will buy some tins of paint for the ground. 1 Quote
Dreams of 1995 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago (edited) 29 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Neither of the 2 mentioned seem like anything other than cheap youngish punts with underwhelming goal returns in inferior leagues. Back on the wind up Earlier in the window you were waxing lyrical about Swansea's moves. They have signed some lad from Sweden who has a handful of goals; some 20 year old from Kilmarnock and a defender who spent his time mincing it in the lower leagues. Everybody else has interesting and ambitious signings - us, they are cheap, underwhelming and punts. I suppose if you always start with such low expectations nobody can call you out for being wrong like you often do with others eh. Edited 3 hours ago by Dreams of 1995 1 Quote
aletheia Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 6 minutes ago, JHRover said: So after being preached to for the best part of 10 years that we need to use our Category A academy more, use home grown players rather than pay for them from elsewhere, pathways into the first team blah blah blah we spent the whole summer doing the complete and total opposite of that and are now selling our academy graduates to the likes of Derby, Charlton and Peterborough after putting in years of development. It's almost as if the Academy will be surplus to requirements...but for another day and another thread maybe. 3 Quote
CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, G Somerset Rover said: I mean, if the lad is a tenth of the player that Eidur was, then we'd be in for a treat. A reminder came up on my FB recently from around 15/16 years ago where I've said "get Eidur in you fat bastard" After getting getting over the cringe factor of it, it just made me feel incredibly sad Quote
Exiled_Rover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 7 minutes ago, JHRover said: So after being preached to for the best part of 10 years that we need to use our Category A academy more, use home grown players rather than pay for them from elsewhere, pathways into the first team blah blah blah we spent the whole summer doing the complete and total opposite of that and are now selling our academy graduates to the likes of Derby, Charlton and Peterborough after putting in years of development. It's almost as though we're just making it up as we go along. These transfers have paid for the Academy for the next 3 years, easily. That's not even factoring in the Raya / Wharton money. Buckley, JRC and Leonard (surprisingly) have been deemed not good enough and sold for a healthy fee. That's how the system should work. 4 Quote
Neal Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, JHRover said: So after being preached to for the best part of 10 years that we need to use our Category A academy more, use home grown players rather than pay for them from elsewhere, pathways into the first team blah blah blah we spent the whole summer doing the complete and total opposite of that and are now selling our academy graduates to the likes of Derby, Charlton and Peterborough after putting in years of development. It's almost as though we're just making it up as we go along. I get that those at the club aren't liked but this comes across (to me at least) like misdirected anger and frustration. JRC & Buckley were going backwards else they would have gotten better moves. JRC was on the bench for Charlton & no one wanted Bucky who failed at Sheffield Wednesday. We got fee's for them to reinvest. Leanord may well have wanted to leave for his future, which is what I would have done personally. It's not like we've decided to scrap the academy (yet). Edited 2 hours ago by Neal 5 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: What did you see in his game thst gave you that impression ? I alway think that if I’m playing against this player what do I have to look out for ? What I saw was a player who wasn’t a handful physically, not particularly big, not particularly tricky with the ball at his feet, not particularly quick, no real “ hold up “ play to speak of, and when he eventually got a chance he usually fluffed it. I think £1 million is a great deal for us. They must have signed him going off memory because when did they see him play ? Obviously I respect your views mate, so we’ll see who’s right before too long. Yeah agreed. Always want Rovers academy players to do well, but saw very little from Leonard that would suggest he would make it even if fit. Someone like Buckley made a much bigger impression but struggled. Would love him to kick on at Posh, but him leaving does seem the right call. 1 Quote
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