Next Rovers manager

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

With the absolute crap we’re being linked with, I would genuinely take Mark Hughes with Robbie Savage assistant manager. 
 

Hughes, instantly commands respect from both players and fans. Savage can have a more modern input in his ears and lastly there would surely be a sizeable amount of fans that would come back and aid the new manager bounce. 
 

 

Savage isn't going anywhere as assistant to anyone I wouldn't imagine.

[Tugayslongwalkoff]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Savage isn't going anywhere as assistant to anyone I wouldn't imagine.

If it was to a big Championship club under his idol I think he would. Another step closer to a big job. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

I spent a little bit of time last night trying to spot the best up and coming managers from the lower Leagues with outstanding records in the hope of identifying the next Ken Furphy or Gordon Lee who can get a tune out of an ordinary group of players and who might be able to thrive on a budget.

The three that caught my eye in terms of age profile and record were

1) Dave Challinor at Stockport, (already flagged up by Merce and another poster on here) the oldest of the 3 at 50 but with a 51% win record over an extended career

2) The manager at Lincoln Michael Skubala - younger 43 but with a similar win percentage (45%) over a much shorter career. Seemingly stood in at Leeds for 3 games as caretaker manager before that which I dont recall.

3) One that really intrigued me was a 40 Yr old centre back Jimmy Mcnulty acting as player manager for Rochdale and who seemingly has them streaking away with the Conference leaving the likes of Sparky and Savage in his rear view mirror at the moment. Again hovering around the 50% win ratio. (47% over 151 games)

I know he probably couldnt play at that age at CB in the Championship but Howard Kendal vibes? Anyone know anything about him? Is it Tyrone who has Rochdale links?

What do you think of Karl Robinson ?

[Commondore]

"No one in their right mind would ever come here!!" etc. etc. 
 

I genuinely don't think that's how it works. A handful of managers can pick and choose between jobs, but the vast majority will listen if they're offered a step up in the football pyramid and/or better pay, regardless of what goes on at the club. Tony Mowbray once said something akin to that every manager thinks they're special, and think they're the ones who can turn an underperforming club around, get a tune out of a wayward prospect, fix someones' constant injury troubles, etc., and everyone else has just been doing it wrong. I think there's a lot to that. 

 

I can however believe that Venkys wouldn't want to pay compensation fees or offer a decent wage, but that's a different kettle of fish. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Commondore

[CD_93]

1 minute ago, Commondore said:

Tony Mowbray once said something akin to that every manager thinks they're special, and think they're the ones who can turn an underperforming club around, get a tune out of a wayward prospect, fix someones' constant injury troubles, etc., and everyone else has just been doing it wrong. I think there's a lot to that. 

I remember that big interview, with The Times maybe?

For a fleeting moment it felt like things were looking up.

[Tugay-is-God]

Would his big mouth and media connections almost make it worth for us if they went with Savage?

Can't see him staying quiet after it inevitably all blew up for him as well. 

[RevidgeBlue]

18 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

If I was a recruiter/headhunter taking the brief to find the next manager I'd insist on a job specification that clearly stipulated the competency/capability requirements & the expected length of the contract because I think there are two (possibly conflicting) sets of requirements that lead to two quite different candidate profiles.

1. Urgent & Important 

• Keep Rovers in this division - so need someone who understands the division & with as much knowledge of the Rovers squad as possible
• A motivator
• An organiser
• A communicator - not just internally but also with the fans

 

2. Important - but not quite as urgent

• Willing to work in a given hierarchy with limited influence, to a budget
• Proven coaching ability
• Proven ability to develop players for resale
• Tactically flexible
• Proven capability to learn to operate in a new division, new country

 

You'd perhaps go Gary Rowett for 1. & someone like Will Still for 2.

I fear Rovers will be driven purely by cost & the need to appoint someone to placate the fans...a former player?

Really good post Ian.

I would maybe asterix it by saying if you're more interested in 1) it probably needs to be a short term appointment until the end of the season then reassess.

If you're more interested in 2) then you maybe make a longer term Will Still type appointment at the possible expense of 1) in the short term.

I'm more worried that they might see 2) às more important than 1) rather than the fact they might look at an ex Rover.

[rog of the rovers]

Easy short term payday, keep us up you're a hero, if we go down its Ismael's fault.

Upon leaving cite the boardroom as the real issue to your progress.

Its almost a free hit job 

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

If it was to a big Championship club under his idol I think he would. Another step closer to a big job. 

That would be a intriguing scenario admittedly. Would only be viable for Savage if Hughes made it clear he only wanted to carry on managing for another 6-18 months max with a view to Savage taking over thereafter imo.

[Crimpshrine]

37 minutes ago, Jimmy612 said:

Well, let's hope someone at Ewood is having a browse too.  If they are, they'll know not to touch Coleman with a barge pole! 

Pasha would probably appoint him out of spite.

[RevidgeBlue]

10 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

What do you think of Karl Robinson ?

Neutral.

Pretty sure he's been linked with us several times before and despite his relatively young age he's been round the managerial block a number of times already.

Gut says if he was as special as people thought he was at one point he'd have made more of a splash by now than he has.

We've been linked with a lot worse already of course.

[RoverDom]

I just hope one day we get a manager who when they leave, refuse to sign an NDA. Big Sam or Neil Warnock who don't need the hush money, don't need to worry about the next job and would say it how it is. 

[LeftWinger]

17 minutes ago, rog of the rovers said:

Easy short term payday, keep us up you're a hero, if we go down its Ismael's fault.

Upon leaving cite the boardroom as the real issue to your progress.

Its almost a free hit job 

Nail on the head. 

[Herbie6590]

24 minutes ago, rog of the rovers said:

Easy short term payday, keep us up you're a hero, if we go down its Ismael's fault.

Upon leaving cite the boardroom as the real issue to your progress.

Its almost a free hit job 

Unless you are Tony Mowbray…when some folks still assign the “Owen Coyle relegation” (“Two more from them later…”) to Tony 😉

[Blow-in]

28 minutes ago, rog of the rovers said:

Easy short term payday, keep us up you're a hero, if we go down its Ismael's fault.

Upon leaving cite the boardroom as the real issue to your progress.

Its almost a free hit job 

You say that but there was no shortage of people blaming Tony Mobray when we went down despite delivering a playoff rate of points in the number of games he was with us. Folks have short memories.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

49 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

He bicep Trouser Boy to the moon within a week of landing the job, to be sure.

It has a certain sentimental appeal, but Savage is a clever bloke, and he would definitely be able to see way past the gloss & hype to the realities of working under the bumble brothers.

Same goes for Damian Duff.

When I’ve heard him being interviewed I thought he came across really well. He’s not as daft as he’d like you to think he is.

[bazza]

When Sparky was here he had three helpers with him; Neddy Widersky (sp?) and two others. He's proved he cannot do it on his own. A bit like Clough and Taylor or Dalgleish and Harford.

One thing, if it's Russell Martin I'm out of this club.

I'd like Big Sam or Neil Warnock or Rowett or Johnson

 

[Bbrovers2288]

Another that I would certainly look at but probably wouldn’t fancy it in our current situation would be dean smith 

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, Polky said:

Pete O’Rourke linking us with Savage…

Sav in a post January transfer meeting with our 3 clowns would be a joy to behold

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

48 minutes ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

With the absolute crap we’re being linked with, I would genuinely take Mark Hughes with Robbie Savage assistant manager. 
 

Hughes, instantly commands respect from both players and fans. Savage can have a more modern input in his ears and lastly there would surely be a sizeable amount of fans that would come back and aid the new manager bounce. 
 

 

That’s two biggish wages. The Chicken Chokers wouldn’t go along with that.

[Dreams of 1995]

1 minute ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Another that I would certainly look at but probably wouldn’t fancy it in our current situation would be dean smith 

I would love Dean Smith here. He's of the same mould as Eustace.

[Herbie6590]

3 minutes ago, bazza said:

When Sparky was here he had three helpers with him; Neddy Widersky (sp?) and two others. He's proved he cannot do it on his own. A bit like Clough and Taylor or Dalgleish and Harford.

One thing, if it's Russell Martin I'm out of this club.

I'd like Big Sam or Neil Warnock or Rowett or Johnson

 

One of the best “Subs - please check..” I think I’ve ever seen on here 😆

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

49 minutes ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

With the absolute crap we’re being linked with, I would genuinely take Mark Hughes with Robbie Savage assistant manager. 
 

Hughes, instantly commands respect from both players and fans. Savage can have a more modern input in his ears and lastly there would surely be a sizeable amount of fans that would come back and aid the new manager bounce. 
 

 

That’s two biggish wages. The Chicken Chokers wouldn’t go along with that.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

50 minutes ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

With the absolute crap we’re being linked with, I would genuinely take Mark Hughes with Robbie Savage assistant manager. 
 

Hughes, instantly commands respect from both players and fans. Savage can have a more modern input in his ears and lastly there would surely be a sizeable amount of fans that would come back and aid the new manager bounce. 
 

 

That’s two biggish wages. The Chicken Chokers wouldn’t go along with that.

[Blue&WhiteArmy]

Out of the ones we’ve been more ‘strongly’ linked with in the media, I’d have it in this order..

1. Bilic
2. Savage
3. Richardson
4. Coleman

Really wouldn’t mind Bilic at all mind you. Doubt he’d come but I’d defo back that one!

Hoping for a few surprise names though, would love a surprise to be pulled out but we know it’s not happening..