[Archived] Where do the issues lie?

[Tom]

So after tonight we have a strikeforce only bettered by Watford, near 40 goals between them.

We have signed a keeper and have another in good form.

Wingers that can create good chances.

Young attacking full backs that can defend as well as attack.

International centre halves of decent pedigree.

Yet we haven't even challenged for a promotion space in a season when any 2 from 4 can go up automatically and the playoff spots are being contended by a further 4.

Why are we falling short?

Is it purely the manager and his tactics or something else?

The mentality of the players who can't get any consistency and have squandered leads in 10 games?

Not enough leaders?

Or a perfect storm of all the above?

[Husky]

The midfield being dire?

[DE.]

This season, mainly down to management and tactics. Our issues next season are going to be very different though. I have no idea where our goals are going to come from, with Rhodes and Gestede both likely to be off. Our midfielders don't score many and our strike force will consist of Brown and two or three freebies/loans, as King probably won't be around either.

A better manager could have had us challenging in the top six this year. Next season it could very well be a better manager being needed to keep our heads above water.

[Tom]

The midfield being dire?

Sad but maybe true, since the manager came in for 4 positions across the midfield we have signed in some form:

Marshall

Conway

Cairney

Evans

Judge

Marrow

Spearing

Dabo

Taylor

Taylor

Feeney

Hopefully soon we will get it right

[broadsword]

Venkys?

[ABBEY]

venkyscum easy answer

[Stuart]

This season, mainly down to management and tactics. Our issues next season are going to be very different though. I have no idea where our goals are going to come from, with Rhodes and Gestede both likely to be off. Our midfielders don't score many and our strike force will consist of Brown and two or three freebies/loans, as King probably won't be around either.

A better manager could have had us challenging in the top six this year. Next season it could very well be a better manager being needed to keep our heads above water.

I completely agree with this. Bowyer really should be part of our scouting network and be given a remit to find the players that we need (to improve) - rather than just those who are available - by a manager who can get this team purring.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

In a mess, massive debt, and no idea what the Loons have planned. So we have no real idea, so as Abbey says, Loons!

[Tom]

Venkys is an easy answer and the answer for why we are where we are but from that point on there are other issues that are solvable

[jim mk2]

So after tonight we have a strikeforce only bettered by Watford, near 40 goals between them.

We have signed a keeper and have another in good form.

Wingers that can create good chances.

Young attacking full backs that can defend as well as attack.

International centre halves of decent pedigree.

According to this we have decent players all over the pitch bar midfield. So it must be obvious where the "issues" (hate that word) lie.,

[ABBEY]

its the only reason tom, its not an "easy " answer, it the truth.

[G Somerset Rover]

Poor manager

Lack of leaders

No pace

[tomphil]

..or midfield.

[Waggy76]

No pace in the team ..

Bowyer does nt know his best team..

A complete set of midfielders that cannot tackle a fish supper...

A lack of a physical presence throughout the team...

My last gripe is the goalkeeper , I do hope Raya doesnt get sold and his 1st choice next season ..Cos Steele is no bloody good !

[K-Hod]

On the pitch it's a simple lack of drive forwards or backwards from central midfield, as well as a lack of cohesion at the back.

[Rover_Shaun]

The team isn't as good as we think?

[McClarky]

No leadership throughout the whole club, quick answer.........Venkys.

[ABBEY]

its ok saying players this manager that but there is no argument they are reaping what theyve sown.

[Tom]

its ok saying players this manager that but there is no argument they are reaping what theyve sown.

So it's pointless changing anything then?

[ABBEY]

only way things will change is get rid of the idiots in pune and the idiots running it in england.

no matter what happens no matter what changes nothing will change as has been proven.

[Waggy76]

No leadership throughout the whole club, quick answer.........Venkys.[/quote

Thats it in a nutshell....

It is the owners that have to go !

[West Yorks Rover]

Venky's will only employ a puppet board and a puppet manager and I really can't see them changing their ways.

On the pitch it's centre midfield, has been for 4/5 years now.

[chaddyrovers]

we lack a hard tackling midfielder player to protect the back four

Plus next season, how do we replace Rhodes, Gestede and King if they do leave this summer

[47er]

Surely the biggest single issue is that Bowyer (or somebody) doesn't know his best team and play it, with every player in their natural position?

How do you develop a team as opposed to a squad unless they learn together on the pitch?

In Burnley's case they were better than the sum of their individual parts. We are not.

I'd add-----too many injuries which perhaps has prevented him picking the best side. Not sure he'd pick then anyway.

The whole club is being run on the cheap, lack of structure is a major issue. Probably contributes to the injuries.

[LDRover]

I wonder if we could tempt Palace with a Gestede Murray plus cash part ex? We could then look at a 4-2-3-1 formation.

Get Baptiste in at CH and a decent def mid in the mould of Eustace at Derby or Bridcutt at Sunderland.

Difficult to see it happening but it could be doable.

Sorry, completely off topic there. I'm with Abbey by the way, Venky's and their inertia are the problem.