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Haha some folk honestly, don’t have anything to prove to anyone, been spot on the money with a good few leaks yet aye I’m making it all up. Give yourself a rest. I’m not claiming to be anything specia

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12 days until our first match of the season. No first team goalkeeper, no defensive reinforcements. The only signings on the horizon a loan goalie arguably no better than Raya and a City youngster on loan. And even those are dragging for unknown reasons. Worrying times. 

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Just now, CD_93 said:

Sharpe says nothing more today but no reason to panic - told “everything is on track.”

Bit late for that! Been Chernobyl in here for weeks.

When was the last time one of our signings was leaked long in advance?

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3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

W have missed out our 1st choices for the keeper slot. We missed out on a foreign target aswell for the slot as Rich Sharpe as reported. We have the Martinez deal which hasn't worked out as we would have like. Sadly this happened. So we have had to work down our list. not ideal Walton replacing Raya as I would agree but if he the best we can get the fair enough. 

We seemed to be saving the rest of the money for centre back permanent so that's see if we can get this done and dusted before the start of the season. The time to judge the transfer window and our business is after the window closes not now. 

That reads a lot like failure. Its the recruiting team's job to identify their targets and chase them down. We missed out on Bauer too after pursuing him for a year and a half.

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So more bullshit from the manager yet again.

"Two signings in the next 24 hours"... shut up Tony. 

If I kept setting these deadlines in my job and kept blatantly lying and missing them... well, I'd be in a lot of bother. Not Tony Mowbray it seems.

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Just now, 47er said:

That reads a lot like failure. Its the recruiting team's job to identify their targets and chase them down. We missed out on Bauer too after pursuing him for a year and a half.

Nah, just reads like the real world. Good stuff Chaddy.

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Just now, Angry_Pirate said:

So more bullshit from the manager yet again.

"Two signings in the next 24 hours"... shut up Tony. 

If I kept setting these deadlines in my job and kept blatantly lying and missing them... well, I'd be in a lot of bother. Not Tony Mowbray it seems.

If you called everyone at work who gave information that later transpired to have been incorrect a liar, you’d be in a lot more bother...

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It's pointless trying to justify with some posters. Whatever mowbary does, he can't be criticized. He could blow up certain poster's homes, molest the cat and set fire to the grandma and he would do no wrong in their eyes

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2 hours ago, Biz said:

It’s not always that simple. Raya May have forced it to the extent where he would be unsettled. They may have had ample choice at that time. I don’t know the full ins and outs, hence why I’d try not to be too close minded about how and why it happened.

Theraya May? (no txt please)

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2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Coyle brought in Mulgrew and Graham.

Without those two players, I think Mowbray would have been well and truly stuffed.

The only signing Mowbray has made which comes close to the success of Mulgrew and Graham is Dack.

Rothwell?

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Just now, Angry_Pirate said:

So more bullshit from the manager yet again.

"Two signings in the next 24 hours"... shut up Tony. 

If I kept setting these deadlines in my job and kept blatantly lying and missing them... well, I'd be in a lot of bother. Not Tony Mowbray it seems.

Have you considered not everything at the club rests on TM's shoulders?

A player could have backtracked on wanting to move, selling club suddenly backed out or wanted more money, deal done but just waiting on final paperwork before going public etc etc.

Feels like a witch hunt sometimes, with whenever something doesn't work out perfectly, someone needs to be hung out to dry!

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1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

 Extremely daft.

Who doesn’t appreciate it? This board is always clamouring for academy lads to be played.

From Travis to Buckley to Butterworth and on it goes.

 

Do you think so.

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Add to what merce said, mowbary Has left us in exactly the same position was when he came in. Has he significantly improved the squad? No. Are rovers results by and large been better with him in this league than when could left us? Debatable. Is his transfer dealings that much better? no. I don't want to keep bashing the guy because I'm sure he's a decent human being but as a manager. To coin an American phrase, he sucks! He just isn't up to the modern game. His style went out with the Dave bassets of this world. I don't think he has the capacity to attract a decent calibre of player, maybe he hasn't got the gift of the gab or maybe he's just not very bright in general. He falls back on the safe option every time. I hope I'm proven wrong and he brings in 2 or 3 amazing signings

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2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Perhaps Coyle wasn't quite the 'donut' you think.

No! Sorry you've gone too far there.Most of thought (knew?) we would be relegated the second we heard he was the new manager!

He truly was that donut. Whoever he signed we were going down on fitness and training issues alone.

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5 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Nah, just reads like the real world. Good stuff Chaddy.

Not really an argument that is it? Quite a patronising comment too. Some of things you say at times mate aren’t consistent with living in the “real world” that’s for sure. 

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27 minutes ago, Glosrover said:

 There will be a point where Mowbray will have taken Rovers as far as he can in the club's current form,  I don't believe it has yet been reached,

I believe its been reached but we'll see as the season progresses. I've no faith that we will ever be promoted with him in charge.

He's done a lot of good work but.....

 

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Just now, roverandout said:

Add to what merce said, mowbary Has left us in exactly the same position was when he came in. Has he significantly improved the squad? No. Are rovers results by and large been better with him in this league than when could left us? Debatable. Is his transfer dealings that much better? no. I don't want to keep bashing the guy because I'm sure he's a decent human being but as a manager. To coin an American phrase, he sucks! He just isn't up to the modern game. His style went out with the Dave bassets of this world. I don't think he has the capacity to attract a decent calibre of player, maybe he hasn't got the gift of the gab or maybe he's just not very bright in general. He falls back on the safe option every time. I hope I'm proven wrong and he brings in 2 or 3 amazing signings

 

30 minutes ago, Glosrover said:

taking lessons from Boris J on how not to answer the question ? 

I agree with you, Mowbray failed in his first season target, - he would probably admit that much himself -

Your original assertion is that Rovers are no better off now than when he arrived.  

 in Feb 2107, when Mowbray arrived, we were 23rd in the Championship table, that's second bottom,

the team as follows

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Subs - Emnes, Feeney, Wes Brown, Conway, Tomlinson, Raya, Nyambe.

My recollections were of a club with little purpose and direction, potentially headed for oblivion and with no semblance of anyone in the management structure with the gumption to recognise that fact, or plan to reverse it.  There will be a point where Mowbray will have taken Rovers as far as he can in the club's current form,  I don't believe it has yet been reached, but I do believe that Mowbray will know himself and its just a likely he will walk rather someone needing to fire him - there's been a fair few manager's through our doors in recent years of which that certainly couldn't be said.  

Like many, I'm baffled why the defence hasn't yet been bolstered, and in the lack of the goalkeeper of note arriving, but worse off than when Mowbray arrived?? No, Nay, Never.......

Jason steele in goal, Akpan, Guthrie, Lowe. On the bench... Emnes, Feeney, Wes Brown, Conway, Tomlinson. 

Seriously can't see an improvement in the squad? 

Raya sold for 5 million, Dack, Rothwell, Nyambe, Travis are all first team players. With the likes of Chapman, Buckley and a number of other youngsters coming through. We also have a scouting network. 

Name one 1 million pound player in the squad we had under Coyle? At a push Lenihan, but he has progressed greatly under Tony not Coyle. 

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3 hours ago, OnePhilT said:

I have a suspicion that a decision to loan out or even sell Leutwiler has already been made; I'm pretty sure he is going to want first-team football, and I think he'll find that in League One or possibly even at a lower Championship club. This would explain the need for two new goalkeepers - a first-teamer and a reserve.

When all is said and done, I never felt comfortable with Raya in goal. Potential? Yes, but it's quite amazing how just a few months ago he was billed on here as somebody who would be a liability, and yet now he is seen as "the one that got away". I think it's the Steven Reid syndrome; absence makes the heart grow fonder. Done is done. He must have wanted to move on if he was sold this early in the window, and whether it's Mowbray not wanting him anymore, Raya not wanting to be here, or both... It no longer matters. Done is done, and we're going to be having a new goalkeeper, which I welcome, really. We need a shake up across the entire defence.

Theres not a chance that Leutweiler would go to another club in the Championship and get first team football. Hes hopeless.

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