roverandout Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 6 hours ago, Spartakfenni said: That’s your view, what experience of true world class football do you have? How many league titles/FA Cups/European Cups have you won? He’s forgotten more than we’ve known about how to be a great footballer. Bellingham is an exceptional talent, but what Souness is saying is one swallow doesn’t make a summer. He has to maintain his form over the long term. Having medals doesn't make u an expert. I don't have to be a fireman to know fires are dangerous Quote
Backroom Mike E Posted June 21, 2023 Backroom Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, roverandout said: Having medals doesn't make u an expert. I don't have to be a fireman to know fires are dangerous But being one of the best midfielders of your generation, and winning a few trophies as a manager too, means you can criticise a player. Quote
jim mk2 Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 9 hours ago, Spartakfenni said: What are your medals Jimbob? A lifetime of football experience Yours? 1 Quote
roverandout Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 2 hours ago, Mike E said: But being one of the best midfielders of your generation, and winning a few trophies as a manager too, means you can criticise a player. Not If there's an agenda. He doesn't like English players while he lauds up the 'great Billy gilmour' even though he's gash Quote
Mattyblue Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, roverandout said: Having medals doesn't make u an expert. I don't have to be a fireman to know fires are dangerous I don’t need to have a medical degree to know humans have bones, when do I get my own surgery? Edited June 21, 2023 by Mattyblue 4 Quote
Popular Post broadsword Posted June 21, 2023 Popular Post Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) Who really cares if he talks a load of pony, I don't ask these football shows and pundits and opinions and whatever, a really tremendous bore. It's really quite incidental to him swimming the channel and being the figurehead of this charity. There's a young girl whose every waking moment is filled with pain, and others like her, too. They've been given reason to hope by Graeme getting involved with Debra. I really couldn't give a flying fuck whether his opinions are a load of rubbish. Just so mean-spirited to harp on about that when he's done something for others that really I couldn't do. Swimming the channel, I'm just not a swimmer, I'd find that really tough. Going on breakfast TV and being emotionally vulnerable , to get the word out there , in order to get this fundraising going. He's raised so much money, and I think this is just the start. But yeah, he doesn't like Paul pogba and he's Scottish, plus any idiot can do what he did so let's throw everything in the bin. Wtf Edited June 21, 2023 by broadsword 10 Quote
Mattyblue Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 As well as being a legend here! Yet yon mon is banging on about his media career… which part of his career might be a little bit more relevant to us Rovers fans do we reckon? Quote
broadsword Posted June 21, 2023 Posted June 21, 2023 Yep, he left this club in a far better state than he found it. But yeah. Pogba . Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 24, 2023 Posted June 24, 2023 On 21/06/2023 at 13:42, broadsword said: Who really cares if he talks a load of pony, I don't ask these football shows and pundits and opinions and whatever, a really tremendous bore. It's really quite incidental to him swimming the channel and being the figurehead of this charity. There's a young girl whose every waking moment is filled with pain, and others like her, too. They've been given reason to hope by Graeme getting involved with Debra. I really couldn't give a flying fuck whether his opinions are a load of rubbish. Just so mean-spirited to harp on about that when he's done something for others that really I couldn't do. Swimming the channel, I'm just not a swimmer, I'd find that really tough. Going on breakfast TV and being emotionally vulnerable , to get the word out there , in order to get this fundraising going. He's raised so much money, and I think this is just the start. But yeah, he doesn't like Paul pogba and he's Scottish, plus any idiot can do what he did so let's throw everything in the bin. Wtf Also a really great player in his day. One of the few, Roy Keane was another, capable of playing teams on his own when it was necessary. If you saw that European Cup final were Liverpool beat Roma you’d know what I mean. 1 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago The very best of times at Ewood under Souness,so many good memories. He mentions the Club at that time being run by people with its best interests at Heart..that comment resounds deeply with what has transpired these last horrible 15 years. If only we had a time Machine. 6 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago He looks terrific too. Simon Cowell should have tapped him up first. 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Souness has the best cosmetic surgeons in the business but no doubt his exercise and eating regime is almost military like. Proper bloke. Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 57 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Souness has the best cosmetic surgeons in the business but no doubt his exercise and eating regime is almost military like. Proper bloke. I was on a tour of Brockhall at some point in the past and Souness emerged from the showers with a towel round his waist looking as ripped as a middleweight boxer. He's had a very serious procedure for heart issues in the past and has admitted that at Liverpool his lifestyle wasn't what you'd expect from a professional footballer these days so since the health scare he's probably kept himself in tip top condition physically. Towards the end of his time at Rovers, when his decision making became erratic to say the least, a former friend of mine who'd also had serious heart problems said he didnt see how Souness could operate as a manager properly with the medication he must have been on. Whether there's any mileage in that suggestion I've no idea. I do enjoy listening to him as a pundit on Talksport although his views hark from when the game was arguably better in many ways and sometimes sound a bit dated He is always extremely complimentary about John Williams every opportunity he gets, although I understand that when he was at the Club he used to rib Williams mercilessly, greeting him with the salutation "Here's the guy who doesn't know the first thing about football" type thing when he walked into the canteen at Brockhall. I gather they were invariably at each other's throats as well with Souness saying he wanted such and such a player and Williams saying he couldnt have him. That's the way it should be. You dont want a Mowbray or an Ismael toeing the Company line and refusing to rock the boat to keep their employments safe. 1 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 41 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: I was on a tour of Brockhall at some point in the past and Souness emerged from the showers with a towel round his waist looking as ripped as a middleweight boxer. He's had a very serious procedure for heart issues in the past and has admitted that at Liverpool his lifestyle wasn't what you'd expect from a professional footballer these days so since the health scare he's probably kept himself in tip top condition physically. Towards the end of his time at Rovers, when his decision making became erratic to say the least, a former friend of mine who'd also had serious heart problems said he didnt see how Souness could operate as a manager properly with the medication he must have been on. Whether there's any mileage in that suggestion I've no idea. I do enjoy listening to him as a pundit on Talksport although his views hark from when the game was arguably better in many ways and sometimes sound a bit dated He is always extremely complimentary about John Williams every opportunity he gets, although I understand that when he was at the Club he used to rib Williams mercilessly, greeting him with the salutation "Here's the guy who doesn't know the first thing about football" type thing when he walked into the canteen at Brockhall. I gather they were invariably at each other's throats as well with Souness saying he wanted such and such a player and Williams saying he couldnt have him. That's the way it should be. You dont want a Mowbray or an Ismael toeing the Company line and refusing to rock the boat to keep their employments safe. Yes from every interview iv'e heard from Souness down the years he always mentions John Williams and the fact they fell out all the time but actually had the best working relationship Graeme had experienced. As you say the way it should be because they were both pushing from more for each other all the time for the betterment of the team and club. Non of this' look these are the rules don't rock the boat, keep us steady, we'll keep the lights on and your job is safe whatever happens on the pitch' stuff we have now. On the fitness stuff Souness i think swam the channel quite recently in aid of charity for a young lass with a serious autoimmune system illness, Unreal guy he is, nobody is perfect but he's certainly a one off character and i particularly liked the bit where he still called Dunn out and one or two others about the issues they had back then despite them sitting in the room. My kind of bloke, will face people down, fall out but move on and hold no grudges because it's just part of the job/life. He'll give out the compliments as well but in moderation not the arse kissing fluffing try not to offend way things are now done. As he said though in modern football the tail now wags the dog. Edited 10 hours ago by Tomphil2 7 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 23 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Yes from every interview iv'e heard from Souness down the years he always mentions John Williams and the fact they fell out all the time but actually had the best working relationship Graeme had experienced. As you say the way it should be because they were both pushing from more for each other all the time for the betterment of the team and club. Non of this' look these are the rules don't rock the boat, keep us steady, we'll keep the lights on and your job is safe whatever happens on the pitch' stuff we have now. On the fitness stuff Souness i think swam the channel quite recently in aid of charity for a young lass with a serious autoimmune system illness, Unreal guy he is, nobody is perfect but he's certainly a one off character and i particularly liked the bit where he still called Dunn out and one or two others about the issues they had back then despite them sitting in the room. My kind of bloke, will face people down, fall out but move on and hold no grudges because it's just part of the job/life. He'll give out the compliments as well but not moderation not the arse kissing fluffing try not to offend way things are now done. As he said though in modern football the tail now wags the dog. There's also a very enjoyable documentary about King Kenny just come out. Well worth a watch. (Unsurprisingly his time at Rovers is limited to a couple of lines before the credits) In it Souness and Hansen recount that how as young "Scottish" (for jim's benefit) players in Liverpool they were always round Kenny and Marina's House for dinner etc. Souness recounted that in those days whilst Kenny was a family man with young children, as a single man, he led a very different lifestyle and had the job of talking Kelly for a walk every afternoon. This was incredibly useful as she was the ultimate babe magnet but he could say she wasn't his etc! Edited 10 hours ago by RevidgeBlue 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 21/06/2023 at 07:22, Mike E said: But being one of the best midfielders of your generation, and winning a few trophies as a manager too, means you can criticise a player. Yeah, as long as you don't physically attack them, just because you are losing the 5-aside in training. Ask Cole and Yorke! Quote
Upside Down Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said: Yeah, as long as you don't physically attack them, just because you are losing the 5-aside in training. Ask Cole and Yorke! Yorke needed a good kick up the arse TBF 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Yeah, but how many POTY awards did he win though? Edited 2 hours ago by Mattyblue Quote
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