B16Rover Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 In unrelated news, and what feels like word bingo. Ex Rover Pascal Chimbonda now managing Skelmersdale has been handed a 5 match touchline ban seeing him out of his next game Vs Bury. In response he's signed himself as a player and plans to warm the bench. When JDT had his game out, and given the striking options at the club - wouldn't we have been better lobbing him up top? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rogerb Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, tomphil said: Travis under Mowbray... Can see those two being reunited. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger19_80 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 If we brought Ethan Horvath in on loan it would transfer our fortunes almost immediately. Send Wahlstedt out somewhere in League One to free up the wage if needed. Simple, financially doable and guaranteed to make a difference imo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I’d be happy with an experienced keeper and a striker. I agree with bringing in LB cover but not sure the lad from Brighton was needed. Horvath would be a very good loan signing and I would agree that Leo going out on loan would be good. I’ve had to bite my lip a lot over the last few pages as there have been some ridiculous posts from our resident happy clapper. However we still have time to rescue this window. Fix the glaring issue up front and in goal and we could still have a decent season, ignore it and we could be in trouble. A nervous keeper leads to a nervous back line. Defenders like a strong presence behind them and we clearly don’t have that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 hours ago, JHRover said: Do you believe every word you read and hear in the news? do you ever weigh up two sides to a story and apply logic or critical thought to a situation? Don't read or watch the news unless it Rovers, Sport or Politics related. JDT was clear Travis has twice asked to leave including in the summer. Travis didn't want to be hear cos of his playing role and position in the squad. It's a very simple situation to understand so I don't get why you can't accept it and move on. 3 hours ago, JHRover said: It's a bit like when you insist JDT is happy at Rovers because he's said something along those lines in his press conferences. Read his interview with Elliott Jackson. His comments are clear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggy76 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 49 minutes ago, Rogerb said: Can see those two being reunited. Especially if Mowbray ends up at Preston .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 54 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Don't read or watch the news unless it Rovers, Sport or Politics related. JDT was clear Travis has twice asked to leave including in the summer. Travis didn't want to be hear cos of his playing role and position in the squad. It's a very simple situation to understand so I don't get why you can't accept it and move on. Read his interview with Elliott Jackson. His comments are clear. Can you post that link on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Tomasson believes this is crucial to play development and ensuring the club can apply a player-trading model. “The most difficult thing in football is to give a team an identity, but I think it is needed because the club wants to sell players," Tomasson explained. Well that is that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 2 hours ago, NeilInBristol said: Tomasson believes this is crucial to play development and ensuring the club can apply a player-trading model. “The most difficult thing in football is to give a team an identity, but I think it is needed because the club wants to sell players," Tomasson explained. Well that is that! What’s going on at this club is a scandal. There are a lot of people involved that should be nowhere near Ewood Park Charlatans and thieves. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G Somerset Rover Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 (edited) 9 minutes ago, den said: What’s going on at this club is a scandal. There are a lot of people involved that should be nowhere near Ewood Park Charlatans and thieves. Indeed. It’s much easier these days to count the ones who do deserve a club like ours. Edited January 6 by Gavlar Somerset Rover! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugaysMarlboro Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I just watched a YouTube video by Tom Bogert, the American journalist who linked us with the Orlando striker Duncan McGuire. Interesting that he mentions the loan offers included a purchase option. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boroblue Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 hours ago, NeilInBristol said: Tomasson believes this is crucial to play development and ensuring the club can apply a player-trading model. “The most difficult thing in football is to give a team an identity, but I think it is needed because the club wants to sell players," Tomasson explained. Well that is that! So it’s not about promotion or being competitive. It’s about being a meat market get them in, fatten up and sell them on. To achieve this a manager isn’t under pressure to win. Promotion is not required just keep playing a style and get young players exposure. They don’t even care about having fans. Let’s squeeze the mugs who are willing to pay and forget the rest. They also learned a PR excercise and have made themselves community friendly. Tommason has had enough and it’s written in his face and after 50 plus years I think I have. We will never achieve anything until they are gone because that’s not what they want. I just hope the Indian govt is better than the fit and proper owner test and have found enough to move them on. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 4 hours ago, NeilInBristol said: Can you post that link on here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled_Rover Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 12 minutes ago, Boroblue said: So it’s not about promotion or being competitive. It’s about being a meat market get them in, fatten up and sell them on. To achieve this a manager isn’t under pressure to win. Promotion is not required just keep playing a style and get young players exposure. They don’t even care about having fans. Let’s squeeze the mugs who are willing to pay and forget the rest. They also learned a PR excercise and have made themselves community friendly. Tommason has had enough and it’s written in his face and after 50 plus years I think I have. We will never achieve anything until they are gone because that’s not what they want. I just hope the Indian govt is better than the fit and proper owner test and have found enough to move them on. I think it's more about not letting Lenihan, Rothwell, Brereton-Diaz, Ayala, Dack, Nyambe etc walk away for free. We have to be realistic - the plan is to build a solid financial footing to operate from. We clearly can't rely on these dodgy owners to foot the bill every season, and even then we get into trouble with FFP 'cos our crowds are naff and we've historically let players walk at the end of their contracts. We complain about Boro / Hull etc spending loads of cash - well they've generated said cash through player sales. If, for example, Carter is sold for £8m in January and O'Riordan is brought in as his replacement for £500k, that's exactly the way the model should work. You've then got £7.5m to pay wages / pay for the Academy / invest in other player transfers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 Before the game today, I was talking to someone who were telling that they were told Travis was moving on and that was at the start of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohinen1983 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I think we need a keeper, a striker and a quick wide forward/winger.. GK: Tim Krull type ST: Forest, Wolves, Palace must have someone knocking around in he reserves with bit of experience. Winger: Someone rapid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booth Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Before the game today, I was talking to someone who were telling that they were told Travis was moving on and that was at the start of the week. Travis, Buckley, Carter, A Wharton and Phillips, along with Kaminski, Dack and Ayala were wanted out before the end of last season. Basically anyone who could get some money into the club, or on decent wages. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelton Blue Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 If we only sign one more player, it has to be a keeper. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Despite the spin the LT has put on it that article doesn't say he's happy at the Club, it merely says he likes working with the players on a day to day basis etc. He'd get that type of enjoyment working anywhere at any Club. It's what he DOESN'T say that's telling - if he was genuinely happy here he would be quick to point out that Steve and the owners had been incredibly supportive and his DOF had provided some brilliant recruitment etc etc 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 31 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: I think it's more about not letting Lenihan, Rothwell, Brereton-Diaz, Ayala, Dack, Nyambe etc walk away for free. We have to be realistic - the plan is to build a solid financial footing to operate from. We clearly can't rely on these dodgy owners to foot the bill every season, and even then we get into trouble with FFP 'cos our crowds are naff and we've historically let players walk at the end of their contracts. We complain about Boro / Hull etc spending loads of cash - well they've generated said cash through player sales. If, for example, Carter is sold for £8m in January and O'Riordan is brought in as his replacement for £500k, that's exactly the way the model should work. You've then got £7.5m to pay wages / pay for the Academy / invest in other player transfers. Whilst I agree with your comments I think if carter is sold for £8m his " replacement" o Riordan is not a replacement. It's a backwards move. This method will only go so far until we are relegated 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said: Whilst I agree with your comments I think if carter is sold for £8m his " replacement" o Riordan is not a replacement. It's a backwards move. This method will only go so far until we are relegated S. Wharton into the team with the replacement on the bench? Would still need a Hill replacement though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 40 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said: Winger: Someone rapid. I'd still like Jesurun Rak-Sakyi for the wing (once GK and striker are sorted, although even just those two being done seems wildly optimistic without a sale). Palace kept him around in the summer, but he's only played 130 minutes for them in the league, so you have to think he'd be available. Smashed League One last season with Charlton and a few of us wanted him in the summer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miqaayil Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 39 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: I think it's more about not letting Lenihan, Rothwell, Brereton-Diaz, Ayala, Dack, Nyambe etc walk away for free. We have to be realistic - the plan is to build a solid financial footing to operate from. We clearly can't rely on these dodgy owners to foot the bill every season, and even then we get into trouble with FFP 'cos our crowds are naff and we've historically let players walk at the end of their contracts. We complain about Boro / Hull etc spending loads of cash - well they've generated said cash through player sales. If, for example, Carter is sold for £8m in January and O'Riordan is brought in as his replacement for £500k, that's exactly the way the model should work. You've then got £7.5m to pay wages / pay for the Academy / invest in other player transfers. Its a paradox ... you can't have a solid financial footing and Ambition to be a Premier League Club... If ure a trading for survival model, than ure a producer ....you create players and sell them at thier prime or slightly before ...manage the team performance dip from selling them and await the next calf trying to be the prized bull. Yes it's the perfect model for championship club but never to PL. I've always said these nutjobs want us in championship but not L1 as its the sweet spot ... lesser media attention for thier shananigans ...i don't even belief this whole crap of indians courts ...venkys are magicians in money matters ...We are where they want us to be ...But as a Fan of BRFC i hope to god i'm wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilInBristol Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 "I didn't use James Hill so he wasn't cup-tied. "It was not necessary but he was ready to help the team. He's a very good player and it's been a pleasure to work with him. He's done really, really well." JDT on hill. Jdt seems like a nice guy. The above proves it. But also wtf We don't employ him and sign players to help them develop when they are already going back to their loan club. What's the purpose in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 3 minutes ago, miqaayil said: Its a paradox ... you can't have a solid financial footing and Ambition to be a Premier League Club... If ure a trading for survival model, than ure a producer ....you create players and sell them at thier prime or slightly before ...manage the team performance dip from selling them and await the next calf trying to be the prized bull. Yes it's the perfect model for championship club but never to PL. It wasn't a paradox for Brentford. The missing ingredient is competence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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