TheRevAshton Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I see Sam morsey looks like heβs moving from Ipswich - add that to Phillips returning to city and luongo leaving would they revisit a permanent deal for Travis given his contract situation? They seem very light in that areaΒ That's a fair shout, could see it! Quote
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KentExile Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I see Sam morsey looks like heβs moving from Ipswich - add that to Phillips returning to city and luongo leaving would they revisit a permanent deal for Travis given his contract situation? They seem very light in that areaΒ They have just bought in a dutch midfielder for over Β£10M, have an Irish international, and a fairly highly rated youngsterΒ who had a decent spell in league 1 last season who they may think will be able to step up, but they will probably think that they need one more Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 9 hours ago, bb1rover said: Eustace seemed like an arm around your shoulder man manager. His falling out with the hierarchy was obvious, maybe he created an us vs the big wigs mentality within the team. Then when he left and they brought in a manager who seems the complete opposite, it's likely those that had expiring contracts thought I'd rather not be managed by him, I'd rather move on, hence the eagerness to go to Derby with him. This happens at organisations all the time, team loves the manager, together they hate the hierarchy, manager leaves and many of the team are eager to go to his new job with him. The fact that they were so close to the play offs and missed out, probably helped in justifying their love for Eustace and dislike for those above him. It's possible Eustace is stubborn and wants everything his way and that Birmingham saw that and sacked him. It may explain why he was prematurely sacked. It would also explain why he left us so high up for a team so low down. So yes we are a mess, but its quite possible the above is a big part of why none of those with expiring contracts want to accept a new contract.Β Not saying it's definitely the above, but it's plausible it's part of the reason.Β I remember reading that heβd told the players if they won that midweek game at Bristol City ( the one we actually lost heavily ) the players could have the rest of the week off. Most players would lap that sort of attitude up. 1 Quote
Theaxe15 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: I see Sam morsey looks like heβs moving from Ipswich - add that to Phillips returning to city and luongo leaving would they revisit a permanent deal for Travis given his contract situation? They seem very light in that areaΒ He only played about 200 minutes when he was there last timeΒ 2 Quote
Mercer Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago See Derby have completed the signing of Patrick Agyemang for an initial fee believed to be almost Β£6million, however, he will miss the first games as he needs hernia surgery!Β Explodes the myth they have nowt to spend.Β Whether they have enough left in the coffers for Brittain and/or Travis remains to be seen. At least they are showing ambition and backing their feckin manager. 8 Quote
Popular Post TimmyJimmy Posted 8 hours ago Popular Post Posted 8 hours ago Sorry chaps, I'm having a bad day so I'm dumping my woes on you here. Hope its not too miserable a read. What is a club? What makes this club what it is? I ask because the pendulum of misery just swings wider and wider and it feels like things are reaching a point of no return. Is Blackburn Rovers still Blackburn Rovers despite 15 years of abuse, is it gone, is it recoverable? Players all go on record saying it's a fabulous homely club and they enjoy being here. What does 'fabulous' mean. Is it the infrastructure, likely not, we all complain of the state of things. Is it the history, well a very nice to have but it was won by others and not the current line up. Still, nice to have though. Is it the fans? Β We are a dwindling bunch of aging diehards, mostly pissed off and withdrawing our season ticket money. Obviously we're a big part but is that what constitutes 'fabulous' and 'homely'. Managers who come and go set the tone of who we are but rarely cause players to say "Blackburns the place me me, I must play for that guy". Dalglish is the obvious exception, maybe Hughes, but the rest? Meh. What constitutes the family orientated friendly club that defines who we are. Β I can get no further than the behind the scenes Lancashire folk who smile and joke and nod ... and ... in other words the unchanging body of local chaps and ladies who man the tills, the phones, cook the food, wash the kit, clean the boots, mow the grass, train the players etc.. Β They're the constant and likely best define who we are at the core. What's happened and continues to happen is that since Venkys took over these self same people are forced out the club. Why? Who knows, money saving? The departure of the higher profile ones like David Lowe is hard to miss but the tea lady slips away out of sight. Β It's the likes of Damien Johnson and Ben Benson who are mentioned by the players as being amongst the good ones, the core. Hollowing out the club's people changes the notion of what the club is. Without Jack and Williams, Brown and Fox to set the tone, all long gone, what makes us a family club any more. Dolan and Brittans departure and likely Trav and Sondres soon for me points to this rotting from the inside outwards, we are not who we once were even though the name stays the same. Lowe divided opinion but the loss of his dulcet Scouse tones in the background may have been the straw that broke the camals back. Have Venkys finally managed to kill off who we were and only the name survives? 14 Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Mercer said: See Derby have completed the signing of Patrick Agyemang for an initial fee believed to be almost Β£6million, however, he will miss the first games as he needs hernia surgery!Β Explodes the myth they have nowt to spend.Β Whether they have enough left in the coffers for Brittain and/or Travis remains to be seen. At least they are showing ambition and backing their feckin manager. They showed a lot of ambition when Mel Morris owned them - too much as it turned out because it bankrupted them. Quote
Upside Down Posted 8 hours ago Author Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, TimmyJimmy said: Sorry chaps, I'm having a bad day so I'm dumping my woes on you here. Hope its not too miserable a read. What is a club? What makes this club what it is? I ask because the pendulum of misery just swings wider and wider and it feels like things are reaching a point of no return. Is Blackburn Rovers still Blackburn Rovers despite 15 years of abuse, is it gone, is it recoverable? Players all go on record saying it's a fabulous homely club and they enjoy being here. What does 'fabulous' mean. Is it the infrastructure, likely not, we all complain of the state of things. Is it the history, well a very nice to have but it was won by others and not the current line up. Still, nice to have though. Is it the fans? Β We are a dwindling bunch of aging diehards, mostly pissed off and withdrawing our season ticket money. Obviously we're a big part but is that what constitutes 'fabulous' and 'homely'. Managers who come and go set the tone of who we are but rarely cause players to say "Blackburns the place me me, I must play for that guy". Dalglish is the obvious exception, maybe Hughes, but the rest? Meh. What constitutes the family orientated friendly club that defines who we are. Β I can get no further than the behind the scenes Lancashire folk who smile and joke and nod ... and ... in other words the unchanging body of local chaps and ladies who man the tills, the phones, cook the food, wash the kit, clean the boots, mow the grass, train the players etc.. Β They're the constant and likely best define who we are at the core. What's happened and continues to happen is that since Venkys took over these self same people are forced out the club. Why? Who knows, money saving? The departure of the higher profile ones like David Lowe is hard to miss but the tea lady slips away out of sight. Β It's the likes of Damien Johnson and Ben Benson who are mentioned by the players as being amongst the good ones, the core. Hollowing out the club's people changes the notion of what the club is. Without Jack and Williams, Brown and Fox to set the tone, all long gone, what makes us a family club any more. Dolan and Brittans departure and likely Trav and Sondres soon for me points to this rotting from the inside outwards, we are not who we once were even though the name stays the same. Lowe divided opinion but the loss of his dulcet Scouse tones in the background may have been the straw that broke the camals back. Have Venkys finally managed to kill off who we were and only the name survives? We will not be Blackburn Rovers again until venkys are gone. 5 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Does anyone have a view on whether Ismael is signed up to this transfer strategy? I can't see how he can be much of a fan of letting probably six of our best players go (Dolan, Brittain, Bath, Wieman, Tronstad and Travis) and replacing with unproven imports. He doesn't look like a guy who will take it lying down to me. And he has a record of walking away from jobs.... Him not being around by Christmas seems possible to me. Quote
neophox Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Kirsti Montgomery: "Iβve been here for 10 or 11 years now and this is all Iβve ever wanted. I donβt want to ever go back to not playing for Rovers and I want to stay here for the rest of my life.β 4 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, neophox said: Kirsti Montgomery: "Iβve been here for 10 or 11 years now and this is all Iβve ever wanted. I donβt want to ever go back to not playing for Rovers and I want to stay here for the rest of my life.β This will soon change. 3 Quote
Jimmy612 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, neophox said: Kirsti Montgomery: "Iβve been here for 10 or 11 years now and this is all Iβve ever wanted. I donβt want to ever go back to not playing for Rovers and I want to stay here for the rest of my life.β Seems a nice kid actually, very grounded and speaks well, think he's got a bit over-excited there though.Β Like any professional footballer, if he progresses well and there's interest (and more money) further up the pyramid he'll be gone.Β 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted 7 hours ago Moderation Lead Posted 7 hours ago 46 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said: They showed a lot of ambition when Mel Morris owned them - too much as it turned out because it bankrupted them. Oh well, because it failed once, might as well not bother trying again then? 1 Quote
Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Not sure he's the answer at right back.Β If he's come through the ranks as a midfielder, he's more likely to end up the new JRC.Β I remember Travis being a right back for a while before going back into the middle.Β 4 Quote
Popular Post MarkBRFC Posted 7 hours ago Popular Post Posted 7 hours ago (edited) Have to laugh. Ismael wanting 90% of business done by pre season starting was the first target, huge fail. Ismael wanting the trip to Spain to be later this summer than previous ones so all the new signings could go on it. Two full backs from a relegated Belgian side and a midfielder who can't even take part in it are the only ones through the door. Another huge fail. Edited 7 hours ago by MarkBRFC 15 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago You know itβs bad when Nixon doesnβt even have a fake storyΒ 1 Quote
den Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) βwe have a clear profile of player that we want.Β Young, very athletic, players who are very able to give us that intensity. Technically as well, to give us possibilitiesΒ with the ball.β So we want young, fast, strong and technically good players. yeah right, with no money to buy these players. Β If they were all that they would be at Premier League clubs PDQ. Β As we used to say β¦ if thatβs a viable plan Iβll show my arse in Woolworths window. Edited 2 hours ago by den 1 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Not sure he's the answer at right back.Β If he's come through the ranks as a midfielder, he's more likely to end up the new JRC.Β I remember Travis being a right back for a while before going back into the middle.Β He looked to be more suited to a midfield role to me. 1 Quote
Mercer Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, joey_big_nose said: Does anyone have a view on whether Ismael is signed up to this transfer strategy? I can't see how he can be much of a fan of letting probably six of our best players go (Dolan, Brittain, Bath, Wieman, Tronstad and Travis) and replacing with unproven imports. He doesn't look like a guy who will take it lying down to me. And he has a record of walking away from jobs.... Him not being around by Christmas seems possible to me. IMO, in his post match interviews at Stanley, although refreshingly honest, his body language told me he was already p1ssed-off. I think you are right, he wont take the current shambles lying down - just a repetition of what happened with JDT and Eustace. 3 Quote
roverblue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Ismael seems a lot more fiery than Eustace or JDT and they eventually lost it with the club. I can see him having a full meltdown pre-xmas slating Pasha and Rudy as to why we are down the bottom, fielding 16yr olds as we have no squad depth and having protests at the ground. 2 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Mercer said: IMO, in his post match interviews at Stanley, although refreshingly honest, his body language told me he was already p1ssed-off. I think you are right, he wont take the current shambles lying down - just a repetition of what happened with JDT and Eustace. Β 8 minutes ago, roverblue said: Ismael seems a lot more fiery than Eustace or JDT and they eventually lost it with the club. I can see him having a full meltdown pre-xmas slating Pasha and Rudy as to why we are down the bottom, fielding 16yr olds as we have no squad depth and having protests at the ground. Putting Money on it. Just feels like we're in real danger,for the third successive time in a row,of our Manager packing it in because the same mistakes at Boardroom level are being madeΒ yet again! Its just fecking unbelievable..the warning signs are there for all to see. 2 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Iβd be very interested in the minutes of the latest fans forum - Glen has stated not all minutes confirmed so couldnβt say anything but that pasha was there and was questioned until an answer was providedΒ 1 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I wouldn't expect too much insight from the actual minutes. Hopefully Glen can tell us after they are published what was said in more detail. Β 1 Quote
BankEnd Rover Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Colin rosler, wasn't this mentioned yesterday? Β seems like a genuine interest.Β Edited 5 hours ago by BankEnd Rover Quote
Forever Blue Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said: Colin rosler, wasn't this mentioned yesterday? Β seems like a genuine interest.Β Uwe Roslerβs son 1 Quote
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