Transfer/Loan thread summary to date: 'Piss and wind' 2 weeks to go.

Definitely remember at the time, Gladwin was being reported as free, but with appearance/performance/sell-on related extras. So, free then.

I do not understand what you are trying to say regarding the video, are you saying because it is on a youtube channel with 18k subscribers it makes the show reel better than other show reels on different youtube channels?? If that is your argument it does not alter the fact anyone can look good on a show reel For balance the scouting football twitter page has 113 followers .

I may be missing something but I don't see the difference between paying £6mil for a player now or loaning him with a contract to pay £6mil in the next window. In the end he has still cost the same and he is still your player whether he is a success or not. It makes no difference.

That must have been a painful experience

I think the opposite is true in terms of why people are bothered about the potential Brereton signing, I think most fans first and foremost want to go all out to retain our status as a Championship club this season, anything over that is bonus territory. Brereton is an unknown quantity and an expensive one at that, given the recent history I think most fans want a steady pair of hands this year that will see us safe in the league and look to build over the coming years. I don't think anyone realistically think we should be chasing promotion do they? Every fan I've spoken to see this as a great opportunity to consolidate and build on the good work that began last year.

Should have give us a million as well

I remember somebody putting up a video of Antonnson on here. He was banging goals in left, right and centre. I thought he could be the next Matt Jansen. Until I saw him play once in the flesh. His limitations were there for all to see.

I’m sat in Brisbane airport with a few hours to spare so here are a few reflections: Mulgrew and Lenihan are both top players at this level. I remember saying to den after Lenihan’s return match......”we’ve really missed that brand of aggression.” One thing I do notice though is how much we tend to underrate effective defensive headers of the ball. I know there were issues at the end but Duffy was the master at this in recent times.....Hanley was pretty good too. We were usually at the top of the “won most aerial contests” stats. Some of Duffy’s clearances went over the half-way line! Neither Lenihan nor Mulgrew dominate in this respect.......so the ball often falls dangerously, even if the challenge is won. The Morrison shot on the post came from exactly that kind of situation. I remember commenting on this problem once before when Duffy and Hanley were both out of the team one time........two fluffed headers in succession, one by each centre back......one down. Kevin Moran, Colin Hendry..........that’s what I’m talking about heh heh!

If I have to see one more person talking about trusting Mowbray I may just top myself. I have not seen one Rovers fan say they don't trust Mowbray, he's our most liked manager in years. I was going to say since Big Sam but I'd say he's more liked than Sam was when he was here at the time, so he's our most liked manager since Sparky!! Anyway, my point is every decision every transfer, everything a player or manager does is open to debate, question and scrutiny it's why we have a forum, potentially spending 6 million pounds on an unproven player is a risky buy. It's not a case of not trusting TM's judgment it's just a fact! I hope we sign him and I hope he turns out too be the next Shearer but until then instead of saying "trust Mowbray" let fans say their bit and give their opinion, it's why I come on here. I like seeing and reading what other people have too say... Unless all they have too say is "Trust Mowbray FFS!!"

Not much sign of the loan player we were more or less promised before the weekend. Looks like the loan window is moving with the same well oiled efficiency as our dealings during the permanent window. Get ready for us to make a last minute bid to loan someone with an option to purchase for 10m when it is too physically late to complete any deal on deadline day incidentally it was very strange terminology used when Sharpe ran the story on Monday whereby TM "admitted" there'd be another signing before weekend. Almost as if it was being done against his better judgement. You'd usually save that sort of terminology for bad news I.e. TM "admitted" player X would have to be sold to balance the books etc. Presumably just a slip of the pen by Sharpe. Doesn't appear to be happening anyway.

It might in Dunnys

TRUST MOWBRAY'S BLADDER, FFS.

Anyone else thinking this player isn't going to materialise before tomorrow?

I hope they don't get this clown. They have suffered enough. I genuinely feel for them if it's true .

My two penniths worth. Alot of positives to take from the game. What can I say about dack that hasn't already been said he's just a joy to watch and seems to get better by the day. After the second goal went in he was screaming at his team and geeing them up to go again. Fantastic attitude and was simply brilliant all night. The suggestion to play him deeper imo is ludicrous. Rothwell however looked comfortable playing that position and could be the answer. He worked hard , put tackles in and the drove forward or played accurate long balls to our front men always looking for the attacking option which was a breath of fresh air. Bell was a menace down the left turning their right back inside out and deserves a run in the team. Raya made a couple of wonderful saves but still has that ability of shattering my confidence in him with moments of madness. Nyambe Charlie and darragh also played very well. Armstrong proved he his a striker through the middle and was superb. Negatives Samuel is awful. His didn't control a thing all night. Nuttall just doesn't get in the right positions and isn't creative enough to make intelligent runs. Sadly Conway is past it at championship level but put a good shift in last night and finally (Tin hat on) . I do not rate Kasey Palmer one bit. Goal aside without the ball he is beyond niave and his positional awareness is appalling. He looks every bit the u23 player ,albeit with potential. His decision making is poor and whilst he's quick he's a yard slower than everyone on the pitch in his head. I would not be starting him against hull. For the odd moment of skill or the odd goal he pops up with he will cost us two. Maybe harsh after three games but tony has alot of work to do with him to get him up to speed. Overall though a wonderful night I thouroughly enjoyed. Their goal was sublime and was applauded by the traveling faithful and dacks second was recipricated by there fans. The highlight was outside the ground before kick off when an elderly couple in their early seventies wandered over to a statue of a Carlisle player. The lady bent down to read the plaque and smashed her head on the players iron boot. Slumped and in pain her husband , with his hand behind his back never flinched, paused, and looked at me to say that's a free kick. I couldn't help but laugh. She was ok and started what turned out to be a wonderful night of football.

Peak of his powers indeed! When you look at his highlight reel there was something about the way they he ran in the early days. Explosive power. i lost track of the number of games I used to think to myself. “It’s ok we’ll get something from this. Shearer will score.” He was a delight. Best two players I’ve ever seen at Ewood are Shearer and Tugay (and lots of other great ones). My son asked me once, “who is you favourite Rovers player ever?” I instinctively and interestingly replied Tugay. But it’s not true. How can it be? Tugay was a thing of beauty and had a greater love for the club. But deep down of course it’s Shearer. He was just incredible as a no. 9 and was so fresh as a player when we had him. So mature for his years at the time too. A genuine leader, a warrior and brilliant at what he did. The fun thing is we got to win a title whilst watching him grow on the world stage too. It was a privilege to be there and thanks again Alan!

Prefer to see it on a headstone!

Never understood why fully grown men use the word lol.

He always writes 'Mowbray admitted such and such', not a one-off and it annoys me everytime. Makes it sound like he's coming clean to some crime or something

3 points really 1 - Dont think of it as a loan, becasue it isnt really. Its a permanent signing 2 - They are the selling club and dont appear desperate. They more than likely wont agree to a loan with an option 3 - If they did and he scores 20 goals for us and looks awesome, then they go thanks rovers and take him back and we stand there looking silly. Every transfer is a risk one way or another

Yes because he is effectively our player. I give up now.

I don't think you understood my point. It's like a purchase but you do not pay until January.

Dont think I would want him purely as a loan - that only benefits Forest as it increases his value if he does well. Would rather take a young PL striker if we are just going to loan without a permanent fee agreed.

The strength of Lancashire (proper Lancashire) in being THE hotbed of the game in this country, with so many league clubs is also its weakness. If the professional game was being established today and it was done on catchment areas etc, you simply wouldn't have all the Lanky towns getting licenses. We have lots of town clubs, full of heritage, all attracting ok crowds, but with little chance to grow. Plus, a load of smaller league clubs too. Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough on the other hand are the only league clubs in the whole north east of England stretching from the Scottish borders to Leeds. A combined club for the Lancashire towns will never happen, of course, for a myirad of reasons, but it is in theory a great idea.

If this was the old " Loadsamoney " Rovers you could say " Yeah sign the lad, he's a gamble but we can stand the loss if he turns out to be the new Ashley Ward, Nathan Blake, Kevin Davies etc etc ". As we all know things have changed. This could be the equivalent of betting the ranch on a young untried player. We could lump all our dosh on " red " and " black " turns up. Unless of course we have got more money to spend than we all think. Our current recruitment would suggest that's not the case. For that sort of money I'd like a more proven player at this level.

Working on deals Sam Gallagher is still a chance on loan just have to wait and see Lad from Forrest is able to come on loan just wanting to agree price. No other news but will be speaking to people on Thursday.

Normally a rival club hiring Coyle would be funny, as Burnley fans would agree. Blackpool however have been such a dastardly, calculated car crash it invokes genuine wishes against this happening. I wonder if that Gordon guy still thinks the oystens are justified in taking all the money out the club and running it to the ground because they own it.

I honestly don’t think there’s a fan base like ours when it comes to wanting old players back. Sentimental swines, us lot!

Hull 0 Blackburn 4

Looking at our next five fixtures in the context of how clubs have started this season, I would venture to suggest that if we are not in a play off slot after our first seven games, we might be in a spot of bother after 46...

That is the big question for me?

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16439261.forest-boss-calm-over-future-of-rovers-target-ben-brereton/?ref=mac Forest boss on Brereton. If he is 3rd choice striker then you wouldn't imagine Forest would want rid unless Karanka doesn't rate him. However, Karanka is certainly not trying to put Rovers off the chase with those comments. There might be something in Brereton not fancying the move though or else he might not have mentioned it as a possible stumbling block. File under 'distinct possibility transfer will happen'.

Gladwin wasn’t close to 1 mill, QPR basically gave him us.

Pretty Gladwin was no where near the 1 million mark, thought I read that it was a free transfer with fees depending on performances.

I love Bradley Dack. Full on man crush

Fixed for ya.

Gazza was a one off. They don't come along often.

I would like to see more of him central to see if he really can cut it there in the Championship. He is certainly clinical and a more natural finisher than Graham, more pace and movement too - its just his physicality which is a worry. The team would have to play to his feet or through balls for him to get on the end of. Would be a good idea to switch him there when DG comes off and bring someone on like Rothwell into the three behind. Better than relying on Samuel or Nuttall in a straigh swap for DG in my opinion.

Oh! Here’s a sad (embarrassing) confession. Initially I typed directly into the website.......hoping that I could improve the formatting. Normally I use word. Anyway.....I was pleased with the finished result and posted.it. To my horror, when I looked for it the next day.it wasn’t there! Sooooooo.........i did it again! very sad!

Enjoy your holiday! Listen, I'm not gonna reply to many of these threads but will be reading eagerly. The charts a quite fascinating, frankly. Let this message of gratitude suffice for the season, hahaha. Thanks for the effort, man, it's really appreciated.

Apologies, that wasnt aimed at you. I personally think the pair of them are very good, Mulgrew in my opinion is underated.

F&ck off. Sorry the mention of his name ? Possibly the most appalling c*nt, on the playing staff side of things, since Venkys slithered into town.

Or bennett

I first heard about him when his dad first eyed up his mum.

Players get pilloried on here for poor scoring records when we look at signing them so because this one is a lot of money and now someone we've all decided is a world beater we cant then disregard the wisdom that's gone before. He's here to score goals and for 5, 6 or 7 million quid he'd have to score bucketfuls of them. Grabban cost Forest 6 million quid, this lad can't get in their side whichever way we dress it up and it going to cost us more. Doesn't stack up in my opinion. Don't get me wrong if he comes I will wholeheartedly support the lad and hope he becomes an all time great, but the fee in comparison to long time established goalscorers and young players with more pedigree seems very high.