Cricket

[47er]

On 07/10/2021 at 06:10, Gav said:

Good news on The Ashes - sounds like if will be played, Root leading by example saying he’ll tour whatever it takes. 

Bad news. We'll be slaughtered with our pop-gun attack.

On the other hand our batsmen will be terrorised

Need Archer wood and Stokes to be fully fit. No chance.

[Wegerleswiggle]

1 hour ago, 47er said:

Bad news. We'll be slaughtered with our pop-gun attack.

On the other hand our batsmen will be terrorised

Need Archer wood and Stokes to be fully fit. No chance.

We are getting whitewashed without Stokes or Archer. Could be our worst tour since Flintoff captained us. 

[AllRoverAsia]

On 07/10/2021 at 02:10, Gav said:

Good news on The Ashes - sounds like if will be played, Root leading by example saying he’ll tour whatever it takes. 

ECB approved.

[den]

18 hours ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

We are getting whitewashed without Stokes or Archer. Could be our worst tour since Flintoff captained us. 

I fear you’re right. 
The batting is a shambles.

[oldjamfan1]

1 hour ago, den said:

I fear you’re right. 
The batting is a shambles.

Exactly. I think we’ll still be okay for bowlers but the batting is brittle to say the least. 

[Wegerleswiggle]

6 hours ago, den said:

I fear you’re right. 
The batting is a shambles.

I couldn't even name our best batting order. For me the only 2 that should be nailed on are Burns and Root. The rest are appalling at Test Level. 

[chaddyrovers]

Cricket Australia Chairman resigns  after the states mount revolt

Cricket Australia in chaos ahead of Ashes as chairman resigns after states mount revolt (msn.com)

[Gav]

Big mistake not taking Mahmood and Parkinson, also Livingston for that matter.

5-0 whitewash unless the rain comes, then at least we might draw one.....

[oldjamfan1]

On 15/10/2021 at 11:26, Gav said:

Big mistake not taking Mahmood and Parkinson, also Livingston for that matter.

5-0 whitewash unless the rain comes, then at least we might draw one.....

The first two definitely Gav. Not sure Liam is cut out for test cricket though.

[Gav]

34 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

The first two definitely Gav. Not sure Liam is cut out for test cricket though.

I think you're probably right ojf, but you need match winners in Australia, players that play without fear and Livingston fits that bill.

Our batting has been shambolic for the most part for the past few years, I'd have loved England to have tried something different, but its the same old tried and tested failures leading the line, Root aside and thats just not good enough for me.

On the plus side I'll get more sleep, not staying up till lunch and catching the last 10 over every day!

[matt83]

I think livi is all flash and no substance I’ve seen him far too often clear the ropes a few times in an innings only to chip one up to long on a few balls later with a shrug of the shoulders. At the very most he’d be another Buttler or Bairstow in a test environment. In Australian conditions their quicks would have livi on toast.

Parky before bess and saqib before Overton seemed a no brainer to me.

* that said I don’t think there’s any combination of players England could take that will prevent a whitewash (weather aside). We have 2 competent batsmen root and stokes and only one playing. It’s still not enough even if stokes was fit/right state of mind. 

Edited October 17, 2021 by matt83

[den]

I’m not convinced Parky is tight enough to be a regular test bowler.

[Wegerleswiggle]

My 11 for the Ashes if all were fit.

Burns 

Libby 

Root 

Pope

Stokes 

Livingstone

Foakes 

Robinson

Broad 

Parkinson 

Anderson

[matt83]

[matt83]

Seems as though added a test match to old Trafford. 

[only2garners]

No they haven't really Matt. The rescheduled England v India decider which should have been at OT last September has been set for 1st July. Unfortunately OT can't hold the game on that date as they can't have a pitch ready (concerts?). So the ECB have given that game to Edgbaston and transferred the August test v South Africa, which should have been at Edgbaston, to OT.

[oldjamfan1]

Pretty decent start for England in the T20 World Cup. West Indies struggling to get much more than 50 or 60 here.

[matt83]

Only England could make heavy weather of chasing 55. Whether this is given our or not typical livi just innocuously chipping one up. 

[only2garners]

I don’t know which is the bigger thumping, Liverpool’s win or Pakistan’s over India.

[den]

Stokes is back for the ashes series.

[chaddyrovers]

Stokes back in the England squad for the Ashes is great news for him, his team mates and the Ashes

[oldjamfan1]

43 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Stokes back in the England squad for the Ashes is great news for him, his team mates and the Ashes

It is indeed. He’s a game changer and if nothing else it should at least be competitive now. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, den said:

Stokes is back for the ashes series.

He’ll make a difference but not enough of a difference I’m afraid.

[oldjamfan1]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He’ll make a difference but not enough of a difference I’m afraid.

I wouldn’t bet on that TS. Quite apart from the lift it will give his teammates he has history against the Aussies and they would definitely prefer him to be absent. 
Much is going to come down to our openers (batters and bowlers). If we can get a tune or two out of a couple of them we should be ok. The Aussies aren’t exactly in great nick either from what I can see. 

[Gav]

22 minutes ago, oldjamfan1 said:

I wouldn’t bet on that TS. Quite apart from the lift it will give his teammates he has history against the Aussies and they would definitely prefer him to be absent. 
Much is going to come down to our openers (batters and bowlers). If we can get a tune or two out of a couple of them we should be ok. The Aussies aren’t exactly in great nick either from what I can see. 

I'm with TS on this ojf, those Aussie bowlers will rip through our top order in no time, in nick or not.

I hope I'm wrong, I'd have put my house on India beat Pakistan yesterday, so it has been know 😃