Reginald Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 42 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I don’t get this slant were Big Sam got slated for racking the cue after being 3-0 up yet the current manager can park the bus against the bottom of the league at 1-0 up and it’s a tactical master stroke. You might disagree with him, you might not enjoy watching it, but whilst it continues to work (12 games and counting) I'm not sure you can criticise it as a tactical choice. 1 Quote
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Mattyblue Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Or you could have been happy with Sam’s tactics grinding out win after win at Ewood, and ergo happy now too. 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Just now, Mattyblue said: Or you could have been happy with Sam’s tactics grinding out win after win at Ewood, and ergo happy now too. I can’t remember a home game under Big Sam were we spent the last half an hour defending our last third of the pitch almost totally. Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 So? That’s his approach and it’s working. Three points. 12 wins from 20, in the automatic promotion positions with a middling budget. You’ve obviously got a bee in your bonnet, as what I believe is a rare trip to Ewood didn’t entertain you like you’d hope, but it doesn’t alter the fact it’s been a bloody good season thus far. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I don’t want to know. If a player ever told me anything in confidence that’s how it would stay. Well maybe he shouldn't mention on a forum already then 1 hour ago, Hasta said: I’m just looking at the player ratings on the site, and if our two full backs were our best players I must have had a lot more to drink in the pub than I thought. In that second half, every time the left winger went at Brittain he got to the bye line and either won a corner or put a cross in. It was the centre halves and midfielders getting back in the centre and their good positioning that ended up nullifying that threat. Zaroury and Benson will go past those two for fun next week. It’s whether they can actually deliver a telling ball once they get to the bye line or cut inside. Benson played up front for them against Sheffield United. Brittain was my man of the match and I thought he deserved his award yesterday. Pickering and Morton was also very good yesterday 2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: So? That’s his approach and it’s working. Three points. 12 wins from 20, in the automatic promotion positions with a middling budget. You’ve obviously got a bee in your bonnet, as what I believe is a rare trip to Ewood didn’t entertain you like you’d hope, but it doesn’t alter the fact it’s been a bloody good season thus far. We got the best home record in the league with 8 wins and 2 losses this season. Ewood Park is now a fortress Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: Well maybe he shouldn't mention on a forum already then Didn’t you spend most of pre season tickling peoples balls about your meeting with waggott . At least the lad has private messages people with what was said 3 Quote
Hasta Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Benson played up front for them against Sheffield United. Tella was up top. Benson was wide right. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said: Didn’t you spend most of pre season tickling peoples balls about your meeting with waggott . At least the lad has private messages people with what was said I had a meeting with Waggott and I gave a summary of the meeting on here. 11 minutes ago, Hasta said: Tella was up top. Benson was wide right. I'm still confident that Brittain and Pickering can deal with them Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I must have missed that summary. here you are again and you even asked questions from my summary didn't you if my memory serves me right https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/35019-steve-waggott/?do=findComment&comment=2346823 Quote
J*B Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I don’t want to know. If a player ever told me anything in confidence that’s how it would stay. I’d guess it’s nothing a lot of people haven’t already heard being whispered at the match. Dack was due to be on the bench against Sunderland but was taken off the day before after having a big barny about his stats. JDT thinks he’s not putting the work in, Dack says his stats evidence that he is… then he got Mowbray to push the message out that his stats are better than ever in his post-match interview, which went down even worse. His agent is now pushing him all over for a January move. Happy to be proven wrong - or it might be something else - its only whispers but a few people are all saying the same thing. 3 Quote
tomphil Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Anyone give us a brief summary of what Dack might have said, allegedly. In code if necessary ! 1 Quote
47er Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Exiled in Toronto said: Perhaps I’m in the minority Tony, I always enjoyed Alamo-style defending, Except under Allardyce? Quote
booth Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Needlessly red carded in an under 21 game, mouthing off to fans. He's gone in January. Quote
Upside Down Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Wasn't the classic Italian style to solidly defend a 1-0 lead for 80 mins? Pretty sure they won one or two world cups with that tactic. Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 Lots of elaborate theories, assumptions and bits of supposed gossip about Dack. What we can look at is what happens on the pitch, and I think it is fair to suggest that Vale and Hirst are not up to it, and that Dack (even if we write off his chances of a start which we shouldnt) could potentially be a better option. We have never come back in 8 games from conceding the first goal so although Tomasson in general has done very well thus far, that is a huge area of potential improvement based on the fact that what he has done in those situations has been objectively unproductive. Quote
bazza Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Hasta said: Tella was up top. Benson was wide right. Both of those will destroy us next Sunday. 2 Quote
J*B Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 1 minute ago, bazza said: Both of those will destroy us next Sunday. Both terrify me as well, for what it’s worth. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) We can debate the merits of Dack all day long. The difference he could make, sniffing out a goal etc etc. We all know he’s a far superior player to Hirst and Vale (well most of us do). But it’s all moot when there’s obviously been a personality clash… and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s a sad situation for all involved, but we might as well move on. Edited November 6, 2022 by Mattyblue 3 Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: We can debate the merits of Dack all day long. We all know he’s a far superior player to Hirst and Vale (well most of us do). But it’s all moot when there’s obviously been a personality clash… and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s a sad situation for all involved, but we might as well move on. I think he will play at West Ham . Might be his last 90 in a rovers shirt Quote
roversfan99 Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 58 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: here you are again and you even asked questions from my summary didn't you if my memory serves me right https://www.brfcs.com/forums/topic/35019-steve-waggott/?do=findComment&comment=2346823 Youve missed my point. Quote
booth Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, bazza said: Both of those will destroy us next Sunday. Tella didn't look as effective up front but Rodriguez will be back for the Rovers game I imagine. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Lots of elaborate theories, assumptions and bits of supposed gossip about Dack. What we can look at is what happens on the pitch, and I think it is fair to suggest that Vale and Hirst are not up to it, and that Dack (even if we write off his chances of a start which we shouldnt) could potentially be a better option. We have never come back in 8 games from conceding the first goal so although Tomasson in general has done very well thus far, that is a huge area of potential improvement based on the fact that what he has done in those situations has been objectively unproductive. I don't think JB post is far off what has happened and, in that case, JDT will not see his authority challenge by any player at the club and given his lack of involvement in the last 2 months would that not signal to yourself that JDT doesn't see him as important player like yourself or others do in his team selection, what he demands on and off the ball, etc? 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Youve missed my point. Oh well. Quote
Exiled in Toronto Posted November 6, 2022 Posted November 6, 2022 39 minutes ago, 47er said: Except under Allardyce? It was the Neanderthal attack plans that I didn’t enjoy: Samba trundling up every time to not win headers from Pedersen’s not long throws, while Diouf stood on the goalie’s foot. We don’t score many under this fella, but a lot of what we do score are really cracking goals. Quote
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