Balàzs Tòth

[joey_big_nose]

1 hour ago, AspRover said:

I seem to remember Pears coming in when Kaminski got injured and actually having a run of two or three games where he looked decent - there was a bit of a 'maybe he's not as bad as all that' on here.

He does worry me long term in that he's always got a howler in him, but for a game or two we're probably ok. If Toth is out for more than that then I'd want to bring in an experienced freebee, even if we rotate between them to keep the pressure off Pears, but there aren't that many available that would get a work permit. 37 year olds Rui Patricio and Fraser Forster probably aren't an upgrade on Pears at this point.

Lots of games  between now and the January transfer window, lets hope the injury isn't bad.

He came in about two years ago - was okay, then unbelievably bad (wigan away...), back in after Wahlstadt (even worse than Pears) and a bit shaky, then around six months of being actually pretty good, then back to shaky, and here we are.

I reckon we are looking at about a 33% chance of him coming back in and being any of good/shaky/diabolical.

[Polky]

 

[moerpho]

That is horryfying news.

[DE.]

So, best case scenario he misses the games against Derby, Preston, QPR, Wrexham, Ipswich, Sheffield Wednesday and probably Oxford as well. Worst case scenario (if 8 weeks) he's also out for Portsmouth, Millwall, Boro, Sheffield Wednesday again and most likely Wrexham again and Charlton. 

Potentially 13 games out. Best case scenario most likely 7 games. And that doesn't factor in recovery time which probably adds at least a game or two to each scenario.

Better hope Pears comes in thinking he has a point to prove. 

[Valconite]

We are doomed if this is true. Finally get some wins and now back to calamity Pears. Lets face it, if he were in goal against Southampton and Leicester then we wouldn't have won those games. That's the difference of a good keeper.  I'm already having nightmares thinking of him being back in the first team.

[bluebruce]

43 minutes ago, Polky said:

 

Wonder if Bristol will still think it was time wasting.

This is bad news not just because we have to put up with Pears again just as we were regaining form, but also because an injury like that, especially one needing surgery, might reduce his capability going forward, or create a chronic recurring issue.

[simongarnerisgod]

well we are now desperately short on goalkeeping cover,need to tap into the free transfer market imo,i don`t rate pears but if anything happens to him then we are in a very precarious state

[rigger]

It is not the end of the world. It just makes a hard job, harder. It might give Michalski an earlier than planned chance.

[roversfan99]

Terrible news and will likely cost us points.

[Tomphil2]

Who would have thought not strengthening the goalkeeping dept would come back to haunt us so early ?

 

[AspRover]

21 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

well we are now desperately short on goalkeeping cover,need to tap into the free transfer market imo,i don`t rate pears but if anything happens to him then we are in a very precarious state

If transfermarkt is anything to go by there's slim pickings.

Rui Patricio ex of wolves and Portugal is 37 and has settled status for a work permit

Fraser Forster likewise 37, there's a keeper who's been on the books at spurs and middlesbrough called Glover, 27 and no senior appearances to speak of. Thomas Vaclik, 36, Czech international spent some time at Huddersfield would get a permit.

Stankovic, 33, 4 caps for Austria last club AEK Athens, calculator recons work permit goes to a tribunal.

None of them really inspire confidence.

 

[Ossydave]

Really gutting news losing Toth. I was hoping he'd just jarred his knee a bit, 4 weeks seems insane for an injury needing surgery, it's got to be more like the 8 (or more) if true. Goes much further than just losing the keeper too, Toth is brilliant at arranging the defence particularly on set pieces. An already unsettled back mine just got a whole lot more unsettled 🥲

[47er]

8 hours ago, Polky said:

But but but---I thought he was just time-wasting....Grr

 

[Devon Rover]

9 hours ago, AspRover said:

If transfermarkt is anything to go by there's slim pickings.

Rui Patricio ex of wolves and Portugal is 37 and has settled status for a work permit

Fraser Forster likewise 37, there's a keeper who's been on the books at spurs and middlesbrough called Glover, 27 and no senior appearances to speak of. Thomas Vaclik, 36, Czech international spent some time at Huddersfield would get a permit.

Stankovic, 33, 4 caps for Austria last club AEK Athens, calculator recons work permit goes to a tribunal.

None of them really inspire confidence.

 

Interesting shouts. They might not inspire confidence but, for me, much more than Pears does. I doubt we will see anyone come in and, like others have said, we have just got to hope he grabs what is likely a last chance for him to be a first team goalkeeper at this level before his career is fully consigned to bench warming and training games.

[Tugayisgod]

Although obviously bad news I honestly was bracing myself for it being an ACL injury so in some ways it's a bit of a relief.

Time for Pears to step up.

[davulsukur]

11 hours ago, Polky said:

 

Bad times. 

I wonder if Pears will get the nod every game or if Ismael will put Michalski in every now and again (assuming he's recovered from his Bradford City horror show)

[Dreams of 1995]

44 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Although obviously bad news I honestly was bracing myself for it being an ACL injury so in some ways it's a bit of a relief.

Time for Pears to step up.

Sounds like it is a ligament injury if he is requiring surgery.

[arbitro]

19 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Sounds like it is a ligament injury if he is requiring surgery.

There was some speculation it's his meniscus and if there is a tear in it then surgery is required.

I have had three such operations and was back running from one of them in the days but the others were a bit longer.

It sounds like the same procedure Weiman had last season and he was, from memory a few weeks.

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, arbitro said:

There was some speculation it's his meniscus and if there is a tear in it then surgery is required.

I have had three such operations and was back running from one of them in the days but the others were a bit longer.

It sounds like the same procedure Weiman had last season and he was, from memory a few weeks.

I might be wrong but didnt Weimann get injured in the Norwich game which I think was early March, and he was not fit enough to start pre season on time.

[Tugayisgod]

33 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Sounds like it is a ligament injury if he is requiring surgery.

Get it done NOW so at least there's the international break to start his recovery. We don't want a Baradji situation where he was here a few weeks before he even got his surgery 

[MarkBRFC]

28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I might be wrong but didnt Weimann get injured in the Norwich game which I think was early March, and he was not fit enough to start pre season on time.

Different one I think.

I think the one Arbitro is referring to is the procedure he had for his injury around November time (after he scored two goals against Cardiff) and it kept him out for around a 4-6 weeks, returning against Milwall on 21st December.

Edited 3 hours ago by MarkBRFC

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

25 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I might be wrong but didnt Weimann get injured in the Norwich game which I think was early March, and he was not fit enough to start pre season on time.

I was down that end when it happened. I think he kicked the hoardings.

Edited 3 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

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Shit.

[Admiral Nelsen]

Very bad news.

 

Pears has been capable of being okay for a few months at a time, so obviously I'm hoping for the same now. Most important though is that even if he does, we shouldn't make the same mistake that we did with Kaminski once he was back and let Pears keep the jersey. Toth is clearly our number one now.

[Mercer]

1 hour ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Sounds like it is a ligament injury if he is requiring surgery.

 

1 hour ago, arbitro said:

There was some speculation it's his meniscus and if there is a tear in it then surgery is required.

I have had three such operations and was back running from one of them in the days but the others were a bit longer.

It sounds like the same procedure Weiman had last season and he was, from memory a few weeks.

Huge blow for both Toth and Rovers given the way he has established himself. 

Although MRI scans are highly accurate, I was told by a leading NW Orthopaedic Surgeon in a consultation that circa 20% of common injuries are missed or misdiagnosed, commonly those issues in and around tiny structures and even with ACL's, it's sometimes difficult to tell the difference between a minor/partial tear and a full tear.  Until the surgeon gets in there...............!!!!!

Would be amazed if only 4 weeks and getting on for 8 weeks feels more realistic.

Edited 2 hours ago by Mercer