Wing Wizard Windy Miller Posted September 20 Posted September 20 I'll summarise for you. We had an awful start but the last 3 games have been more encouraging (despite the loss with 10 against Norwich). We'll know which direction we are heading with Ismael by the end of October. My expectations have been reduced by the player turnover so if we comfortably avoid relegation and a few new signings show promise, that will be a relative success. Still not sure what his brand of football is about though. 1 Quote
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Hasta Posted yesterday at 16:02 Posted yesterday at 16:02 Win percentage now less than Owen Coyle. 1 1 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted yesterday at 16:04 Posted yesterday at 16:04 (edited) Ismael just talks the talk...just another stooge taking the Venky rupee. Sufail,'the Ego'and Ismeal the perfect storm. Edited yesterday at 16:31 by SIMON GARNERS 194 Quote
booth Posted yesterday at 16:06 Posted yesterday at 16:06 I think today we saw what his previous club fans were saying. The guy can turn a poor performance into a worse one with his 60th minute subs. I think every Rovers fan groaned when they saw Pickering on the team sheet. Then on comes Tavares and Kargbo... Quote
alcd Posted yesterday at 16:20 Posted yesterday at 16:20 12 minutes ago, booth said: I think today we saw what his previous club fans were saying. The guy can turn a poor performance into a worse one with his 60th minute subs. I think every Rovers fan groaned when they saw Pickering on the team sheet. Then on comes Tavares and Kargbo... Just reflects the shite in this squad. Quote
StHelensRover Posted yesterday at 16:26 Posted yesterday at 16:26 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Hasta said: Win percentage now less than Owen Coyle. But the club are more interested in sacking journalists. I'm a bit indifferent about whether or not Ismael should be sacked at this point, I don't think it makes a huge difference in the grand scheme of things. I feel like we're circling the plughole very slowly. Edit - I assume we wouldn't be able to afford to sack him. Remember though, over 100 applicants and he was the best one, because surely we would only appoint the very best applicant. Edited yesterday at 16:26 by StHelensRover Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted yesterday at 17:44 Posted yesterday at 17:44 As I said when he first came in. HE IS A TERRIBLE TERRIBLE MANAGER. 2 Quote
Guy N. Cognito Posted yesterday at 18:36 Posted yesterday at 18:36 Not convinced by Ismael, but then again it doesn't matter who's in the dugout. Even when the club accidentally unearths a diamond in the rough, they eventually grow weary of the club's self-defeating business model and piss off to pastures new. 5 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted yesterday at 19:07 Moderation Lead Posted yesterday at 19:07 Completely unconvinced by this guy. 2 Quote
Hasta Posted yesterday at 19:19 Posted yesterday at 19:19 Worst start to a season since 2016. 2 Quote
davulsukur Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, Hasta said: Worst start to a season since 2016. Yikes Quote
Ghost7 Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 5 hours ago, booth said: I think today we saw what his previous club fans were saying. The guy can turn a poor performance into a worse one with his 60th minute subs. I think every Rovers fan groaned when they saw Pickering on the team sheet. Then on comes Tavares and Kargbo... The issue is Tavares and Kargbo are what has been provided through the "significant investment" of the owners. Who is to blame if owners aren't funding serious wages, transfers and board members? The ambition comes from them. We're in the middle of another spectacular downfall and it's on our absent owners every time. 4 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 42 minutes ago, Ghost7 said: The issue is Tavares and Kargbo are what has been provided through the "significant investment" of the owners. Who is to blame if owners aren't funding serious wages, transfers and board members? The ambition comes from them. We're in the middle of another spectacular downfall and it's on our absent owners every time. Kargbo maybe but he didnt need to bring Tavares on. He had Montgomery or pulling Cantwell deeper into midfield. Or could have just left TGH there, moved Miller to RB and brought on McCloughlin. The environment at the club makes things difficult but Ismael really shot us in the foot today. Ive been pretty happy with how Ismael has set us up most games, we seem really well drilled. But if we go behind and need a way to find a goal he seems to have few ideas - which is consistent with how we have been for years. Quote
booth Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Ghost7 said: The issue is Tavares and Kargbo are what has been provided through the "significant investment" of the owners. Who is to blame if owners aren't funding serious wages, transfers and board members? The ambition comes from them. We're in the middle of another spectacular downfall and it's on our absent owners every time. No doubt who the real villains are but VI didn't need to play those players today. Didn't need to replace Ribeiro who has been decent so far. Didn't need to move Hickman, who up to that point wasn't doing too badly in the middle and was good against Ipswich. The place that needed a shake up was up front if anything as we've been pretty woeful in the final third. Today his subs and shape changes turned a mediocre performance into a very poor one. 2 1 Quote
rigger Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 8 hours ago, booth said: No doubt who the real villains are but VI didn't need to play those players today. Didn't need to replace Ribeiro who has been decent so far. Didn't need to move Hickman, who up to that point wasn't doing too badly in the middle and was good against Ipswich. The place that needed a shake up was up front if anything as we've been pretty woeful in the final third. Today his subs and shape changes turned a mediocre performance into a very poor one. Let's hope VI learns from it. Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, rigger said: Let's hope VI learns from it. He's just turned 50, if he's not learnt already, he never will. Quote
rigger Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 13 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: He's just turned 50, if he's not learnt already, he never will. I am 66, and I am learning how to use a smart phone. Every day is a school day. 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, rigger said: I am 66, and I am learning how to use a smart phone. Every day is a school day. Rigger I back you. I've seen enough of Valerian to think what I think on him Quote
philipl Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Players gave Val a really special early 50th birthday present yesterday. Quote
Waggy76 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 hours ago, philipl said: Players gave Val a really special early 50th birthday present yesterday. I think the club gave him an undeserved present in March! I don't rate him at all... 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago shouldn`t be criticising ismael,there is`nt any manager in existance who could make this club succesful with the current ownership/ceo,they clearly want it to fail 1 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 18 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: shouldn`t be criticising ismael,there is`nt any manager in existance who could make this club succesful with the current ownership/ceo,they clearly want it to fail Eustace and JDT. Quote
roversfan99 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, RoversClitheroe said: Eustace and JDT. The last 3 managers all had recent seasons were they managed to put us in a really strong position overachieving based on resources. But none were successful because it was just too difficult working under these owners. 1 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: The last 3 managers all had recent seasons were they managed to put us in a really strong position overachieving based on resources. But none were successful because it was just too difficult working under these owners. Bit unfair to say JDT and Eustace weren't successful. Thought they did exceptionally well to do what they did given the "project" had changed. 1 Quote
metalrover Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Can't see him turning things around quicky, after barely half a dozen games the rot has truly began. It's gonna be a long sad season Quote
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