RevidgeBlue Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, Miker said: Mowbray has signed more good players than bad. I'd definitely have to take issue with you there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sparks Rover Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 13 minutes ago, Miker said: This is his last chance to get us into the playoffs. If he fails then someone new should come in next season. So, if we finish 6th and get beat in the semi final play off, should Mogadon get a new deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 37 minutes ago, lraC said: I think you have been seriously miss understood there. I got what you meant. Even if you took his quote literally then the answer is still "no". Even if we were somehow in the top 6 by January (which we aren't now btw) history shows us we won't maintain that in the second half of the season under his stewardship. And that's before you even get on to the financial mess he has got us into and the situation with the out of contract players. So no,it wouldn't be logical to give him a new contract in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: Even if you took his quote literally then the answer is still "no". Even if we were somehow in the top 6 by January (which we aren't now btw) history shows us we won't maintain that in the second half of the season under his stewardship. And that's before you even get on to the financial mess he has got us into and the situation with the out of contract players. So no,it wouldn't be logical to give him a new contract in January. I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said: He admitted he didn't offer improved deals to the players in question at the appropriate time as he didn't want to upset the rest of the squad so it is 100% his fault imo. Do you have a source for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: So, if we finish 6th and get beat in the semi final play off, should Mogadon get a new deal? I would personally like a change, but it would be a fair argument to make that he deserved one if we got to the play offs. No doubt we would not get back the following season though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kie_BRFC Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 50 minutes ago, Miker said: I mean, we’re in 7th and the players are still playing for him. I could understand if we were mid table and players wanted him out but that’s not the case is it? Whatever people think about his quality as a manger, Mowbray hasn’t significantly underachieved in his time here so ending his contract now makes no sense. This is his last chance to get us into the playoffs. If he fails then someone new should come in next season. If he succeeds there’s more of a decision to make. I have no concerns if he is given money to spend even if a new manager comes in next season. Mowbray has signed more good players than bad. He definitely underachieved last season. Finished 15th with Armstrong and Elliott in attack 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Do you have a source for that? As I said to Roversfan 99 I'm almost certain it was in the LT and no, I don't have the relevant article to hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, RevidgeBlue said: As I said to Roversfan 99 I'm almost certain it was in the LT and no, I don't have the relevant article to hand. mmm. ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kie_BRFC said: He definitely underachieved last season. Finished 15th with Armstrong and Elliott in attack Ya, but we didnt have Ayala and Wharton and that killed us really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 42 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said: So, if we finish 6th and get beat in the semi final play off, should Mogadon get a new deal? Much as I can't stand Mowbray I think that would be a very different proposition to making it into the top 6 in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said: mmm. ok Give over. I haven't imagined it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevidgeBlue Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Ya, but we didnt have Ayala and Wharton and that killed us really You're like the character in the Fast Show who changes his mind every time anyone says something different. You were staunchly pro Mowbray long after most of us had seen through him then you finally changed your mind towards the end of last season and were adamant he had to go, now you seem to be warming to him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigdoggsteel Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, RevidgeBlue said: You're like the character in the Fast Show who changes his mind every time anyone says something different. You were staunchly pro Mowbray long after most of us had seen through him then you finally changed your mind towards the end of last season and were adamant he had to go, now you seem to be warming to him again. You are imagining things. First quotes from Mowbray "in the LT" and secondly my views towards him, when literally 2-3 posts up I said to Sparks I would like a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Sparks Rover said: So, if we finish 6th and get beat in the semi final play off, should Mogadon get a new deal? No he should leave on a high. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waggy76 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Sparks Rover said: So, if we finish 6th and get beat in the semi final play off, should Mogadon get a new deal? We won't but he might 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Sparks Rover said: So, if we finish 6th and get beat in the semi final play off, should Mogadon get a new deal? he should be sacked now.end of story. sick to fk of Mowbray related what ifs. he's the david brent of footballer managers only with less personality and charisma. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Bigdoggsteel said: Just positing, if we are top 6 in January, would a transfer budget and new contract for Mowbray be logical? The problem with Mowbray (ok one of the problems) is that he is a very streaky manager for us. We often go on good runs of being unbeaten, only to follow that up without being able to buy a win. Because of that, any contract offer needs to wait until the summer. Give him a new 2 year deal (let's say) in Jan because we are 5th/6th but then could very well nose dive down the league and win something like 2 out of 15 games. I can see where you're coming from but there is also the possibility that him knowing he'll be out of contract at the end of the season might actually prove to be a motivator to make him actually earn a new contract (I know, I know). As soon as he's got his new deal, he might take the foot off the gas and start talking about Journey's again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I dont think that its an issue whereby Mowbray would take his foot off the gas if he was given a new deal but there is absolutely no need to give him one before the end of the season, and only then if we overachieve and make the top 6. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I dont think that its an issue whereby Mowbray would take his foot off the gas if he was given a new deal but there is absolutely no need to give him one before the end of the season, and only then if we overachieve and make the top 6. Yeah, I was thinking that not having a new deal sorted might galvanise him a little but if got a new deal he might just revert to type. I suppose ultimately, he's too streaky to make a consistent assault on the play off places, regardless of his contract situation. Bit no, I wouldn't be handing him a new contract before the summer and even then, he would have had to pull off something spectacular to even be offered a contract in the summer. Inevitably, we will tumble down the league to our usual Mowbray place of mid-lower table and hopefully a parting of ways in the summer (at the latest) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mani Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) I still think we need a change of direction and voice in the dressing room in spite of any potential success that the manager might have upto January. On a separate topic, I watched the Brereton Diaz short film about his rise and I have to say it is amazing. There’s also a sense of shame as a Rovers fan as to how he was judged. The booing of him a year or two ago is probably an all time low for us as a fan base. I hope he’s had a positive enough time with the club to sign an extension and that he continues to develop. The fee we eventually receive from his sale is important to us. Edited November 18, 2021 by Paul Mani 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mattyblue Posted November 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2021 (edited) Not this again. Sense of shame for who? ‘An all time low’ for who? A tiny percentage of idiots? Considering just how poor he was, for a few YEARS, not weeks or months, he was given a lot of patience, yes grumbles, and yes there was a tiny minority of people being dickheads but that’s football, a £7million man wouldn’t have got such patience and understanding from the fanbase at many other clubs. The fanbase at large have been excellent with BBD, shows that actually we are a pretty fair bunch down at Ewood and it’s a shame you want to go down that line… Edited November 18, 2021 by Mattyblue 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1864roverite Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 My view is that it simply is indicative of some of our fickle supporters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 The deep breath and 3 minute rule worked ... this time ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, 1864roverite said: My view is that it simply is indicative of some of our fickle supporters! Bit like those that used to rant about the owners on a daily basis, but now go in to bat for them instead… 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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