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Posted
1 hour ago, Mercer said:

Much better option than playing Hedges.

Reported Brum have sold their allocation.

Think we'll be lucky to avoid defeat especially if Travis has gone (Derby desperate for midfield reinforcements).

Need to open the Darwen Upper.

Pasha- "Nobody knew Birmingham were Big Club"

If Eustace wanted Travis, he would have bid by now.

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Very quiet again on the transfer front this last 48 hrs.ย  Despite 'having a budget' for this right winger, it's almost as if we have to sell somebody before we can get him...

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I have a leaked image of the budget for a winger

But the good news is that Pasha currently has his fingers down his throat trying to increase it

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Posted
22 hours ago, BankEnd Rover said:

John Yeboah is being touted around again, think we had some interest in him last year...Still 3 years on his contract but looks and exciting prospect...Doubt there's much in it.

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Team Waggott were keen last summer. Team Suhail not so much.

Posted
3 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Travis not gone but seems very likely to get done this week

Koji Miyoshi played the second half for Bochum meaning he lost points for ESC slot meaning

mafoumbi needs sold or as some have found needs to make his debut for rovers in a league game to give him enough points so he doesnโ€™t require a slotย 

bar that nothing really new a tentative link to John yeboah but not a credible sourceย 

Cheers.

Selling Trav is a huge mistake in my eyes.ย 

I hate the clowns that run this club.

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Posted

Iโ€™ll be honest. At this point I think we should take the money for Travis and move on.

I love Travis, and by no means want him to leave. But at the same time, he clearly does want to go, isnโ€™t going to sign a new contract and isnโ€™t bought into what VI is trying to do.ย 
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Unlike many, I can see a strategy to what VI is building, and while I think we may suffer in the short term, we need to accept that this year will be transitional for us. For that to be successful we do need players bought into the long term plan. ATM that doesnโ€™t seem to be Travis and it may be better culturally for the club to take a fee and move on. I really struggle to see how we can keep a captain who doesnโ€™t want to be here.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, TruRover said:

Iโ€™ll be honest. At this point I think we should take the money for Travis and move on.

I love Travis, and by no means want him to leave. But at the same time, he clearly does want to go, isnโ€™t going to sign a new contract and isnโ€™t bought into what VI is trying to do.ย 
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Unlike many, I can see a strategy to what VI is building, and while I think we may suffer in the short term, we need to accept that this year will be transitional for us. For that to be successful we do need players bought into the long term plan. ATM that doesnโ€™t seem to be Travis and it may be better culturally for the club to take a fee and move on. I really struggle to see how we can keep a captain who doesnโ€™t want to be here.

We shouldnโ€™t be in a transitional period though we came 7th last year and a goal away from the playoffsย 

in normal run clubs they look at that and go ok we have a team here capable of competing at the top end of the champ so weโ€™re going to go for itย 

lock down key players - failed (2 have openly stated they want/wanted to stay)

invest in the areas that we fell slightly short on last season ie winger/striker - ultimately goals

but instead we have stated we arenโ€™t paying our key players a wage satisfactory of their role/importance so we are going to sell them or lose for free and then replace them with unknownsย 

now some of the unknowns could well be good or come good but to do so many in the one window itโ€™s very very clear itโ€™s cost cutting as opposed to ambition.ย 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

We shouldnโ€™t be in a transitional period though we came 7th last year and a goal away from the playoffsย 

in normal run clubs they look at that and go ok we have a team here capable of competing at the top end of the champ so weโ€™re going to go for itย 

lock down key players - failed (2 have openly stated they want/wanted to stay)

invest in the areas that we fell slightly short on last season ie winger/striker - ultimately goals

but instead we have stated we arenโ€™t paying our key players a wage satisfactory of their role/importance so we are going to sell them or lose for free and then replace them with unknownsย 

now some of the unknowns could well be good or come good but to do so many in the one window itโ€™s very very clear itโ€™s cost cutting as opposed to ambition.ย 

Not to mention losing the manager, who had us in the play off positions.

At least we know we have people at the club, who won't know when we have the next good player in the youth team, so we won't have our heats broken again, if we sell him for half of his real value.

What an absolute mess.ย ย 

Posted
1 minute ago, lraC said:

Not to mention losing the manager, who had us in the play off positions.

At least we know we have people at the club, who won't know when we have the next good player in the youth team, so we won't have our heats broken again, if we sell him for half of his real value.

What an absolute mess.ย ย 

Im personally not sold on Eustace but its damning of the behind the scenes shit show that a manager is willing to walk out mid season to a team that could have been playing league one the following seasonย 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

No we don't and it's only transitional because the owners won't fund the club properly.

There is no long term plan, only to cut costs.

It's not even really about funding... if we had owners with less money, but were engaged and invested and could sit down with our managers and players and articulate a vision, address concerns, show a long term plan we would be able to at least have a chance on retaining our talent. But we can't do that...

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

We shouldnโ€™t be in a transitional period though we came 7th last year and a goal away from the playoffsย 

in normal run clubs they look at that and go ok we have a team here capable of competing at the top end of the champ so weโ€™re going to go for itย 

lock down key players - failed (2 have openly stated they want/wanted to stay)

invest in the areas that we fell slightly short on last season ie winger/striker - ultimately goals

but instead we have stated we arenโ€™t paying our key players a wage satisfactory of their role/importance so we are going to sell them or lose for free and then replace them with unknownsย 

now some of the unknowns could well be good or come good but to do so many in the one window itโ€™s very very clear itโ€™s cost cutting as opposed to ambition.ย 

This post needs printing out and slapping the face of everyone who says "just be positive"

Building on what we had/have - nar

Slam a wrecking ball through the squad and start all over again - yeah!

Posted

A lot of talk of Travis not wanting to renew his contract.

I'm surprised nobody is considering that the powers that be don't actually want him to renew his contract. He' presumably over the 10k mark as it is and he's not exactly going to renew for less is he.ย 

Suhail is probably more than happy to get a couple of million quid for Travis and replace his 15k a week for someone on half of that.

As club captain I'd imagine that Trav is pretty annoyed about the situation which should have been sorted months ago.

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Posted
23 minutes ago, TruRover said:

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I love Travis, and by no means want him to leave. But at the same time, he clearly does want to go, isnโ€™t going to sign a new contract and isnโ€™t bought into what VI is trying to do.ย 

This baffles me. Maybe I'm oblivious but I've seen nothing at all to suggest that he 'wants' to leave or that he hasn't 'bought in' to what VI is trying to do.

He has been forced to leave by virtue of the club doing nothing to try and keep him until recent weeks and then if we are being realistic probably giving him an offer that isn't worth the time of day to a player of his ability and importance.ย 

That is all on the club - failing to sort contracts out, failing to make competitive appropriate offers and actively inviting interest in key players as a result. He, like the fans and like countless other players and staff members, has been mucked around and taken for a ride by the owners and their stooges.ย 

What he wants doesn't come into it anyย  more than what me or you want. It's what the owners/their stooges want that is the source and cause of all our problems.ย 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

A lot of talk of Travis not wanting to renew his contract.

I'm surprised nobody is considering that the powers that be don't actually want him to renew his contract. He' presumably over the 10k mark as it is and he's not exactly going to renew for less is he.ย 

Suhail is probably more than happy to get a couple of million quid for Travis and replace his 15k a week for someone on half of that.

As club captain I'd imagine that Trav is pretty annoyed about the situation which should have been sorted months ago.

Spot on, true story.

If the club wanted to keep him it would have offered him a new improved deal last summer, when Eustace was pushing for it.ย 

They refused and now we pay the price. Their choice as it has always been.ย 

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Posted

What is VI trying to do anyway but avoid relegation? Anyone think there's some great plan.

"make do and mend " would sum up his Mission Statement.

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Posted
Just now, BlackburnEnd75 said:

A lot of talk of Travis not wanting to renew his contract.

I'm surprised nobody is considering that the powers that be don't actually want him to renew his contract. He' presumably over the 10k mark as it is and he's not exactly going to renew for less is he.ย 

Suhail is probably more than happy to get a couple of million quid for Travis and replace his 15k a week for someone on half of that.

As club captain I'd imagine that Trav is pretty annoyed about the situation which should have been sorted months ago.

Yes... I think there is an obvious ceiling on what we can offer, and the quite a few players now have made the assessment that it's worth more to them to leave on a free than sign it.

It seems short sighted as I guess it would take an extra ยฃ5k a week to sign them, which over two years is ยฃ500k. To not take on that sort of liability we are letting players who are worth ยฃ3M+ walk out the door.

Again sort of thing that an owner close to the action would find a way to navigate. But Venkys are distant and disengaged, and they seem more comfortable creating an arbitrary line in the sand and sticking to it, even if it is madness from a long term planning and financial management perspective.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

It's not even really about funding... if we had owners with less money, but were engaged and invested and could sit down with our managers and players and articulate a vision, address concerns, show a long term plan we would be able to at least have a chance on retaining our talent. But we can't do that...

Owners with no money but a plan, ambition, and a brain would still have used a small fraction of the ยฃ40 million brought in to support an overachieving manager and help him retain his solid squad. They wouldn't have needed to use personal wealth to fund contracts. Maybe use some of the millions extra in TV revenue Sky have provided that gets forgotten about?

Billionaires with lots of money but no plan, ambition or brains have chosen to gamble away the club's future by not doing any of those things.ย 

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Posted

When Travis went out on loan to Ipswich JDT came out and said he was one of our highest earners and thatโ€™s why heโ€™d loaned him out to free up budget for other players.ย 

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Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Owners with no money but a plan, ambition, and a brain would still have used a small fraction of the ยฃ40 million brought in to support an overachieving manager and help him retain his solid squad. They wouldn't have needed to use personal wealth to fund contracts. Maybe use some of the millions extra in TV revenue Sky have provided that gets forgotten about?

Billionaires with lots of money but no plan, ambition or brains have chosen to gamble away the club's future by not doing any of those things.ย 

The extra revenue from Sky in the new deal really isn't all that much. It's an increase of between 500k to 1.5 million per club. Meanwhile more games are televised which means lower crowds. The EFL are terrible negotiators.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

It's not even really about funding... if we had owners with less money, but were engaged and invested and could sit down with our managers and players and articulate a vision, address concerns, show a long term plan we would be able to at least have a chance on retaining our talent. But we can't do that...

We can sit down with fans and fall out attack them though, without too much of a problem though.

I never thought I would see it, but to have a backroom team, who hold the fans in such contempt is outrageous.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Miller11 said:

Team Waggott were keen last summer. Team Suhail not so much.

Itโ€™s depressing that either of these two would have any say in our transfer dealings.ย 
Mental set up at our club

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