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36 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

That interview is a disgrace. The entirely predictable excuses about injuries appearing when everyone knew we were short at the back and would struggle to cope with what we had.

Mowbray then makes a veiled dig at people saying we should have signed more defenders saying he isn't prepared to 'stack' them up. Nobody is suggesting that. We went through the summer with Lenihan and Mulgrew as our only fit established CBs. We've done it on the cheap by trying to convert Williams into one. Added a young lad on loan and then replaced Mulgrew at CB with Cunningham at LB. Any manager with an understanding of these players would know Lenihan is a certainty to miss weeks of a season with his history.

It would have been sufficient to sign two natural, experienced CBs who haven't spent their lives in the treatment room.

Not one admission that his recruitment, management or coaching is in any shape or form relevant to our dire defence and results.

If he couldn't address the defence last summer with what we had last season and the cash he had then he's beyond redemption and certainly doesn't deserve another shot at it.

If he still believes that his transfer business in the summer was sufficient and that our struggles are down to injuries then he needs his head looking at.

 

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Just now, JacknOry said:

“I felt as if we did address the defence. We changed the left back, brought Cunningham in, we brought Adarabioyo who has the potential to be a really top player. There’s no need to go and buy another three centre halves and have them sitting on the bench thinking ‘why did they sign me?’”

Why do you do that with midfielders and strikers then Tony?

Anyhow, you dont buy defenders to sit on the bench, you buy them to come into the team as the defence we currently have is atrocious. Buy better than what we have and challenge those dropped to force their way back in. He has it the wrong way around so no wonder Bauer turned us down.

He conveniently doesn't mention Mulgrew leaving or sending out three centre halves on loan or the fact he had to replace a left back who he signed who isn't good enough. It's a classic deflection tactic. He is insulting our intelligence now. I'd have far more respect for him if he admitted his errors.

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30 minutes ago, JHRover said:

That interview is a disgrace. The entirely predictable excuses about injuries appearing when everyone knew we were short at the back and would struggle to cope with what we had.

Mowbray then makes a veiled dig at people saying we should have signed more defenders saying he isn't prepared to 'stack' them up. Nobody is suggesting that. We went through the summer with Lenihan and Mulgrew as our only fit established CBs. We've done it on the cheap by trying to convert Williams into one. Added a young lad on loan and then replaced Mulgrew at CB with Cunningham at LB. Any manager with an understanding of these players would know Lenihan is a certainty to miss weeks of a season with his history.

It would have been sufficient to sign two natural, experienced CBs who haven't spent their lives in the treatment room.

Not one admission that his recruitment, management or coaching is in any shape or form relevant to our dire defence and results.

If he couldn't address the defence last summer with what we had last season and the cash he had then he's beyond redemption and certainly doesn't deserve another shot at it.

If he still believes that his transfer business in the summer was sufficient and that our struggles are down to injuries then he needs his head looking at.

 

...and we played much of  last season with two midfielders, Mulgrew and Rodwell, pressed into service at centre half.

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To be fair, many of us pointed out last season that we won  more games without Mulgrew than with him. That said, it was blindingly obvious we'd struggle to get through a season with only two senior centre-backs and a City loanee. 

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Just now, tomphil said:

If he thought those two signings alongside ditching another and swapping the keeper would solve our defensive issues i don't think we need say anymore.  He's done it for us.

All loans as well dont forget, Walton, Cunningham, and Tosin are not even ours. Another patch up job instead of just going and getting a couple of big and nasty CBs through the door. Instead, he decides to spunk another few million on another striker that doesnt score goals.

 

 

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If you go out and sign better than what you have then you don't 'stack them up on the bench' do you. The whole idea is to improve by bringing better in which isn't that difficult given how distinctly average ours are.  He's had the money he's chucked it elsewhere, he had a decent prospect lined up but let it go. 

He didn't have the minerals to upgrade on Lenihen who he's admitted isn't strong enough to be a full season centre half. Then in typical fashion he's shoved one of his favs, Williams to the top of the pecking order after he's declared he's now a centre half not a left back. In short he's quite simply tried to make do and mend yet again and he's been exposed yet again as flawed in that area.

But this is what happens when you see every signing you make as a back up player to what is nothing more than average in most cases in the first place. Even more bizarre when you allegedly spend a million in loaning in the least experienced one.

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2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Ive heard and read the Rothwell part of the interview and I can understand what he says and why he hasnt picked him. Holtby performance has been better after that game. 

As for the comment about Mowbray is falling into Coyle and Kean group. I have to say that is disgraceful comment and he doesnt deserve that sort of comments from Fans after the good job he has done here. 

 

Hes talking hypocritical bollocks about Rothwell yet again chaddy.

In isolation, demanding more end product from a player is fair. That said, hes started him 3 times, all in tough away games, all in isolation before being singled out and dropped immediately. 20 minutes here and there is no good. This is on the back of an outstanding run at the back end of last season. He says he picks Armstrong because he is fast, but Rothwell is just as fast, yet Armstrong is repeatedly both ineffective and disinterested. So why the double standards? Why doesnt Rothwell get a few games together to give us that pace and see if he can do more than Armstrong, it wont be hard.

I agree with his comments on Dack because he is one of only 2 players we have who guarantees a source of goals. The other has sat on the bench all season for a terrible striker in Gallagher who contrary to popular belief mainly has played in his favoured position and has done so bar for one half incredibly ineffectively.

He mentions Travis, again I dont disagree that he needs to work on his ball retention. That said, Mowbray has signed players like Johnson (incapable of playing on the half turn) and Gallagher (technically very poor) in his attempt to remodel us into a technical side. His supposedly and as of yet very much failed "philosophy" is full of holes.

His comments about Bennett are unsurprising but shocking. Bennett is crap, he is quite simply not good enough as a footballer at this level, albeit Mowbray doesnt touch on his football ability, suggesting he picks him solely on character. But if Bennett is the driver of the team, he is driving it to stagnation, hes hardly leading, its repeated limp performances.

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Just now, roversfan99 said:

Hes talking hypocritical bollocks about Rothwell yet again chaddy.

In isolation, demanding more end product from a player is fair. That said, hes started him 3 times, all in tough away games, all in isolation before being singled out and dropped immediately. 20 minutes here and there is no good. This is on the back of an outstanding run at the back end of last season. He says he picks Armstrong because he is fast, but Rothwell is just as fast, yet Armstrong is repeatedly both ineffective and disinterested. So why the double standards? Why doesnt Rothwell get a few games together to give us that pace and see if he can do more than Armstrong, it wont be hard.

I agree with his comments on Dack because he is one of only 2 players we have who guarantees a source of goals. 

All games are tough at this level so talking bollocks and making excuses time after time. 

Last season form counts count for nothing right now. Its about now and future.

I disagree with Mowbray's comments on Dack. If Dack isnt playing well I would take him off. 

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

All games are tough at this level so talking bollocks and making excuses time after time. 

Last season form counts count for nothing right now. Its about now and future.

I disagree with Mowbray's comments on Dack. If Dack isnt playing well I would take him off. 

Ive no idea what that first sentence is in response too. And no, today we are playing at home against a side with crap players who havent managed to win since the opening day. New manager bounce, injuries, whatever the excuses are, they are moot, nothing less than a win is acceptable today.

Why does Armstrong get in the team due to solely to pace when hes been failing to provide an end product for months? Rothwell shares blinding pace so why is he being treated differently. Because like Bennett and Gallagher, Armstrong is one of Mowbrays favourites, and the three of them bring the quality of our team down quite considerably.

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2 hours ago, arbitro said:

He conveniently doesn't mention Mulgrew leaving or sending out three centre halves on loan or the fact he had to replace a left back who he signed who isn't good enough. It's a classic deflection tactic. He is insulting our intelligence now. I'd have far more respect for him if he admitted his errors.

Two left backs who aren't good enough, don't forget Hart.

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1 hour ago, Amo said:

To be fair, many of us pointed out last season that we won  more games without Mulgrew than with him. That said, it was blindingly obvious we'd struggle to get through a season with only two senior centre-backs and a City loanee. 

A bit like the Raya situation i think a lot assumed either bring in better and relegate them to back up or bring in direct competition to bring the best out of them. 

Both appear to have been bombed straight out one way or another but the team was always going to miss Mulgrews goals if nothing else. Maybe he'd have scored a few from the bench this season and earned a few points instead of costing them.

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Just now, roversfan99 said:

Ive no idea what that first sentence is in response too. And no, today we are playing at home against a side with crap players who havent managed to win since the opening day. New manager bounce, injuries, whatever the excuses are, they are moot, nothing less than a win is acceptable today.

Why does Armstrong get in the team due to solely to pace when hes been failing to provide an end product for months? Rothwell shares blinding pace so why is he being treated differently. Because like Bennett and Gallagher, Armstrong is one of Mowbrays favourites, and the three of them bring the quality of our team down quite considerably.

Your Rothwell Comment.

I have no idea what to expect from Barnsley in terms of team selection, formation, Style. 

I agree Armstrong needs dropping when off form. Did you see my team I selected for today's game?

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On 14/08/2019 at 07:09, RV Blue said:

Don’t know if it’s been mentioned elsewhere, but Tosin has a knock and is a doubt for Saturday. Mowbray being so negligent with our defence, by leaving us so short, is a sacker on its own.

Said this back in August, didn’t take a genius to work it out.

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Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Your Rothwell Comment.

I have no idea what to expect from Barnsley in terms of team selection, formation, Style. 

I agree Armstrong needs dropping when off form. Did you see my team I selected for today's game?

Ultimately at this level Barnsley have as weak a group of players as youll probably find. At home, have to win and should be pretty comfortable if you have anything about you.

My point was about the hypocrisy of saying that Rothwell, a very fast player, doesnt play because of a lack of end product (even though he doesnt start games to provide end product) whereas Armstrong is guaranteed a place solely on pace, regardless of repeated ineffectiveness.

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18 hours ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/quicktest/18054984.who-earned-right----mowbray-explains-team-selection/

 

OK so this is a lecture to us mere fans that we know nowt.

You really want to love the guy but he just needs to fucking win games...

 

He wants Dack on the pitch because he can score even though he's playing badly. But yet he doesn't play Graham.

 

He wants to educate Rothwell about football like a child and make him another robotic player ? Or is he showing him videos of Sterling every day and asking him to be more offensive?

 

Sam Gallagher... lummox who runs around a lot. Great.

Armstrong... fast but a bit dumb. Great.

 

I could not give a flying fuck about all this crap he talks. I want us to get 3 points tomorrow. 3 more points on Wednesday. and 3 points the game after.... etc.

Infuriating!

Another boat load of waffle from the delusional Mowbray.

Why are some players who are learning the game afforded the luxury of 90mins and starts week after week and others just get slated and minimal time on the field?

Acknowledges that Lenihan won't be fit all season and failed to do jack about it in the transfer window.

Bennett starts every game because, despite his lack of ability, he's loudest in the dressing room.

He's clearly going to ruin Travis as well. Trying to turn him into the next Evan's, smallwood or Jason lowe.

Mowbray out.

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That late goal means nothing to me. Mowbray looked a dead man walking at 2-2 and a late free kick (which Arma did well to buy) doesn’t change that.

Having to score three to get past Barnsley isn’t good enough. Conceding after making all his subs too.

 The crowd very nearly turned too and they will next time.

Mowbray out.

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