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I’m sorry Paul, but it really has bewildered me that running Blackburn Rovers sensibly has been made to look as arduous as sewing in sparring mitts, but that is how it has been presented throughout th

I certainly don't claim to be 'ITK' at all but shortly after the final whistle yesterday I received a text from someone extremely close to the club - not the playing or coaching side - who doesn't nor

The trouble is, this is a well-trodden route in the Copybook of Tony Mowbray. A week back, prior to Cardiff and following the utterly woeful and woebegone showings against Wigan and Barnsley, we neede

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27 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Worry not folks. Never mind where we end up this season, Mowbray is already busy telling the owners that we should be a force next season. On it goes.

He will be chucking the pandemic right down their throats and buying himself another couple of seasons at least.  

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11 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

It's still early days but it seems nothing much has changed from our previous 2 seasons in this league - not enough wins to really mount a challenge on the top 6. 

Does anyone genuinely think Mowbray has what it takes to make the PO's and/or get promotion?

I don't think Mowbray has but if we have as much good fortune with player availability from now on as we have had misfortune to date, the squad might be good enough to carry him over the line.

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Just now, A Northern Horde... said:

It's nowhere near good enough and we all damn well know it.There seems a be general malaise around the Club and apathy is setting in amongst the support.

I said give him until Xmas and matters aren't looking good.

We don't know do we?

Holtby, Travis and Dack playing like they can would have transformed yesterday.

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1 hour ago, philipl said:

We know how Holtby, Travis and Dack would combine with the current squad?

Pure conjecture Philip. If's, buts and maybes. The fact is we are just not kicking on as many thought we would. Mid table is where the level of Mowbrays managerial ability tells me where we should be. He is Mr Average, good runs, bad runs interspersed with really good play and poor play with very little consistency. After seven turgid years of that lot many thought he is just what we needed and that could well be true of his first couple of years but when we should be kicking on we are still stuck in the long grass.

I just want better for my club.

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He's way too cautious. As others have said, starting Trybull and Johnson in central midfield does not give us the opportunity to quickly release our forwards.

Always over-thinks it, always over-rates the opposition.

Let's play to our strengths rather than our opponents.

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Always going to be ‘what ifs’ with Mowbray in charge I’m afraid. Right now the focus is on Dack and Travis. In the new year it’ll be something else. I’d wager we’ll coninue plodding along exactly where we are right now under Mowbray. No huge danger of doing down but we won’t lay a glove on challenging for the top 6.

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1 hour ago, 47er said:

He's way too cautious. As others have said, starting Trybull and Johnson in central midfield does not give us the opportunity to quickly release our forwards.

Always over-thinks it, always over-rates the opposition.

Let's play to our strengths rather than our opponents.

What gets me about it all is inspite of our over cautious approach, playing two defensive midfield players most of the time etc, we've never looked remotely like sound defensively. I was just reading in todays paper that the penalty Middleboro conceded yesterday was the first goal they'd conceded in 452 minutes of play. Obviously they are building from the back, we've never attempted to do that.

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1 hour ago, 47er said:

He's way too cautious. As others have said, starting Trybull and Johnson in central midfield does not give us the opportunity to quickly release our forwards.

Always over-thinks it, always over-rates the opposition.

Let's play to our strengths rather than our opponents.

That's one of the regular patterns when we sit off too long we struggle to get anything going attack wise and then predictably at some point we concede a poor one. Lenihen has taken over from Mulgrew as being the chief culprit of that, then we have to get back into and when we do we rarely take games late on. Usually after the standard subs and juggling about leave even less balance on the pitch.

When we go at teams early and press using a higher tempo if we get in front we go on and wallop them. Don't understand why that can't be in evidence at places like Luton away. Are we really just flat track bullies or is there more to it. like as you've said too much fearing certain opponents and too much over cooking the team instead of the emphasis being on encouraging them to do what they are good at ?

 

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So how long does he get?

Should he be allowed to ruin yet another season or should someone else be given the chance to try and salvage something out of it?

If the latter we need to be making the change in no more than four or five games time imo.

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1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So how long does he get?

Should he be allowed to ruin yet another season or should someone else be given the chance to try and salvage something out of it?

If the latter we need to be making the change in no more than four or five games time imo.

I reckon he'll leave halfway through next season and he'll jack it in rather than get fired. We'll finish 10th-14th this season and he'll use Covid and the Travis/Dack unavailability to conveniently blame.

We'll then lose Dack and/or Armstrong in the summer and be battling relegation when he finally falls on his sword in Jan '21, with the profits made on Dack and Armstrong to service our monstrous debt the only thing to shout about as 'progress' in his 5 yr tenure  

Fuck you Venkys. 

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We've made jokes about Mowbray and his pension fund but there must be a serious side and an element of truth to it ......he will have added a good seven figure sum to his already likely substantial pot while he's been at Ewood. I'm sure his pension adviser will have worked out  that if he can eke out another 18 months he will be able to enjoy a very lucrative and comfortable retirement indeed.   

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1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

He’ll go when he’s had enough on his own terms. Remember that and it will save you all a lot of pointless angst.

I'm under no delusion whatsoever that this will actually happen with Swag in charge, unless the owners decide to take a closer look at what's going on and cease to be taken in by the 'we're bang on course" routine.

However whilst I don't think it will happen, the day you don't think a manager who isn't up to scratch SHOULD leave is the day you should give it up as a bad job!

I'm really fed up now, normally I can't stand international breaks but I took a complete two week break from Rovers news, didn't miss worrying about Moggasaurus in the slightest, and returned to it full of idle curiosity wondering if a two week break would have healed some limbs and recharged our batteries.

Sadly not it seems. In that two week period I'd almost forgotten how bad in general we are under Mowbray.

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Great posts from JH and revidge.

Yes the ref robbed us blind at Luton but we were never set up right for collecting 3 points and in this game Mowbray had the luxury of up to 5 subs to shake it up.

He had no plan B when we have been in that sort of situation against robust dangerous but frankly limited opposition and totally failed to change approach or energy level.

That observation is probably true of 30% of our games in the Championship under Mowbray.

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