Summer Transfer Window

[RoversClitheroe 1120]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Certainly bizarre to advocate waiting as long as is necessary to sign players yet dismiss foreign players due to a potential 2 week quarantine, especially when our only signing thus far has been required to quarantine, which is not ideal but still leaves him training today and ready for the first game.

Its just further excuses. There was and still is nothing stopping us from signing playing in Europe, as we have already done with Kaminski, and had we got it done early enough as we did with Kaminski, it wouldnt have been anything other than a minor inconvenience. As it is, even if he missed 2 games, not great but will a domestic player be here any quicker?! Probably not.

I dont care where we sign players from as long as they are good enough, but there seems to be neither any urgency nor any ability to work on more than one deal!

Very bizarre indeed.

Completely agree on your further points.

The silence and lack of rumours is deafening and frightening.

Huge chance for us to kick on a potentially push for play offs IF we make the correct signings and soon.

I fear Mowbray is far too comfortable to put pressure on himself with ambitious signings.

[chaddyrovers 5994]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Certainly bizarre to advocate waiting as long as is necessary to sign players yet dismiss foreign players due to a potential 2 week quarantine

But we didn't have these quarantine rules at that time did we? But you have move the goal posts to suit your own argument?

But can't answer why there is such a drop off in transfers from overseas clubs? wonder why you can't? Did you know look at the figures provided?

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

but there seems to be neither any urgency nor any ability to work on more than one deal!

how do you know that there is no urgency going on at the club about transfers? source from inside the club or someone who worked at the club? 

[windymiller7 1293]

11 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I've been told he hasn't been training with us. 

Also nothing on line about him moving to a club in Middle East so far. 

i hope we bring him in. 

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/middlesbrough-liverpool-nantwich-daniel-ayala-4450029

[RoversClitheroe 1120]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

But we didn't have these quarantine rules at that time did we? But you have move the goal posts to suit your own argument?

But can't answer why there is such a drop off in transfers from overseas clubs? wonder why you can't? Did you know look at the figures provided?

how do you know that there is no urgency going on at the club about transfers? source from inside the club or someone who worked at the club? 

He's not moved the goal posts one bit Chaddy.

Figures are figures it doesn't tell the total picture Chaddy any stats led person can tell you that.

Do you personally know if there's any urgency at the club? From what I know there's not much activity.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller 3275]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

But we didn't have these quarantine rules at that time did we? But you have move the goal posts to suit your own argument?

But can't answer why there is such a drop off in transfers from overseas clubs? wonder why you can't? Did you know look at the figures provided?

how do you know that there is no urgency going on at the club about transfers? source from inside the club or someone who worked at the club? 

How do we know there is no urgency?

3 years ago..

Back 4 v Southend 2017

Nyambe, Lenihan, Mulgrew (c), Williams, 

 

All 4 players still at the club and 3 nailed on to start against Bournemouth.

18 months ago. "defenders are coming."

 

It's a piss take to be honest.

 

[tomphil 12713]

He's been very fortunate in past windows when these alleged A, B list targets don't materialize. They've usually tipped the nod with their finance men to allow the Tosins, Reids etc and dug money out for Brereton & Gallagher.

How he's used them is down to him but it looks this season as if nothing like that will be ok'd.

Could be a really testing season.

[chaddyrovers 5994]

Just now, RoversClitheroe said:

 

Do you personally know if there's any urgency at the club? From what I know there's not much activity.

well no one knows anything with any certainly unless you are in the offices of Mowbray and Waggott. 

Kaminski deal came nowhere and no local journalists and ITK knew about that transfer until its was deal agreed

[Blue blood 3988]

13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well you might want the player to come straight into the 1st team squad and trained with the squad. 

You aren't going to get like to like player to Adarabioyo. Lindsay would be decent signing. I would be loaning him with a view to permanent signing next summer if he performs. Aswell as signing another centre back. So what if he is ineligible for 2 games thats why you have a squad at your disposal. didn't stop Millwall signing Woods on loan from Stoke did he? 

Edwards won the Stanley Matthews award during his first season at Stoke. If Nyambe isn't re signing then we need a right back long term. 

Well we have no idea if we are looking at European centre back or who we have scouting in European competitions. 

No The quarantine reason isn't an excuse at all. If you look at many European incoming signings were made between this summer and last summer there is massive different. In last season summer transfer window, clubs made 45 signings from overseas clubs whither it was permanent or loans compare to this summer window which has seen only 15 transfer from overseas clubs. So why such a drop off in transfers from overseas clubs to us?

Mate, your Rovers can do no wrong mantra has led to you tying yourself in knots with all sorts of contradictions. 

1) We want a player who can play straight away and have trained with the team (hence why not going for a player who would quarentine.) Aside from the reasons it's daft as @roverclitheroe points out this directly contradicts your point about waiting to the end of the transfer window to buy players. They have just the same problems of not training with the team and being there immediately. Can you not see how daft you sound? They need to train with the team and we buy them the last day of the transfer window - your negatives for one are the same for the reason you champion. 

2) You give evidence for why quarentine is a problem and stopping people buying players abroad (which am not convinced on saying the number of signings from a full window to a partial window is misleading as is the financial restrictions in general, but hey ho lies and damn statistics eh?). But at the same time you are saying how do you know we are not using the European scouting network. In the same post you are saying we can't get players from.abroad AND defending our recruitment by saying we are looking abroad! 

There's a whole host of other issues with this post too. Won't get a player like Tosin - not permanently but we may on loan but that wouldn't be a favourable comparison for Rovers so ignored. So what about the 2 games missed with a loan signing but you are bothered by quarentine (another contradiction). You even champion Linsey on loan which seems daft - loans should be left for quality otherwise unobtainable so that's an odd one to suggest. Apart from the fact you think that's what the club will do, rather than what is right so that's why you champion it. A bit like the anti Nayambe bias it's not what is best that you like but what you think we will do. 

That said such a policy with Rovers is fairly harmless, irritating but allowable. But it still annoys me as you watch loads of footy, you have your finger on the pulse of a lot of teams and post a load of updates on what happens - all of which I appreciate. And all of which should enable you to have your own views rather than be a yes man for Rovers. So c'mon stop defending our poor transfers and championing TMs intentions (which I sadly think you are spot on about) where you end up contradicting yourself, and use that interest and passion to have some cracking ideas of your own!

[roversfan99 8586]

3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Very bizarre indeed.

Completely agree on your further points.

The silence and lack of rumours is deafening and frightening.

Huge chance for us to kick on a potentially push for play offs IF we make the correct signings and soon.

I fear Mowbray is far too comfortable to put pressure on himself with ambitious signings.

It isnt even the lack of rumours for me, as no journalists really seem on the ball. Can only judge the manager on what he does get over the line. At the moment, even compared to last seasons mid table squad, we are short.

Even though Rich Sharpe has said that it is very quiet, even then, he for example was nowhere near the Kaminski deal. Although his comments are a little alarming.

Ultimately for me it is the fact that it happens every year really. We first have the needless delays that come from having this constant handicap of negligent owners. 

Last year, defensive reinforcements took an age to get over the line, we lost our first 2 games with our defenders, both on loan, done very late on in the window.

I am also unconvinced that Mowbray has either the capability to navigate the window in terms of getting the players we need, we have signed some good players under him but our squad is so imbalanced considering the time and money he has had. And also the ability to get signings over the line.

Last summer, the window was half about the players we didnt get, we missed out on Bauer, he bemoaned the loss of 2 mystery foreign keepers and loaned in a clown to replace the cheaply sold Raya, and there was also Maher. It was a summer of missed opportunities and temporary stop gaps, and I am getting a sense of de ja vu. 

For example, Kipre was unfortunate, but we arent only in need of a centre back, in which case there may be a little more patience. Even if he had to move on to option B as his main CB, he needs 2 CB's, a left back, another keeper, etc, surely he hasnt just missed out on his main target in all of them areas, and if he has, then there is something wrong. It seems to be one at a time.

[1864roverite 2459]

Meanwhile sun is shining in Truro and the lager is very cold?

[blue_n_white99 203]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

And ultimately, the manager should be judged on players that he is able to get signed, not the ones he missed out on.

What is also a major issue apart from the glaring holes in the defence are the contracts that run out in 2021:

Dack

Rothwell

Johnson

Holtby

Nyambe

Evans

JRC

+ a few I couldn't give a toss about, these will leave further massive holes in a squad that desperately needs bolstering. These lads don't need quarantining, analysing they need to be sat down and sold a future that they buy into so we actually have a team next year that doesn't mainly consist of U18s

[RovingRover 618]

 

40 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I've been told he hasn't been training with us. 

Also nothing on line about him moving to a club in Middle East so far. 

i hope we bring him in. 

 

39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

didn't know you were football agent or transfer expert? My apologises 

 

In fairness. No players have been training with us on trial etc.

Just our current crop including Mulgrew and Williams who we are actively trying to move on.

[RoversClitheroe 1120]

21 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

 am also unconvinced that Mowbray has either the capability to navigate the window in terms of getting the players we need, we have signed some good players under him but our squad is so imbalanced considering the time and money he has had. And also the ability to get signings over the line.

This goes for matchdays too unfortunately lol.

[Tugayisgod 276]

Not heard anything but wouldn't be surprised to see Tosin back with us this season. 

Doesn't seem to be in city's 1st team squad from what I can see. 

Get him and another permanent cb would be great. 

 

[islander200 2028]

19 minutes ago, blue_n_white99 said:

What is also a major issue apart from the glaring holes in the defence are the contracts that run out in 2021:

Dack

Rothwell

Johnson

Holtby

Nyambe

Evans

JRC

+ a few I couldn't give a toss about, these will leave further massive holes in a squad that desperately needs bolstering. These lads don't need quarantining, analysing they need to be sat down and sold a future that they buy into so we actually have a team next year that doesn't mainly consist of U18s

Dack here till 2022 at least we have a years option on his deal 

[Bohinen 22 501]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

But we didn't have these quarantine rules at that time did we? But you have move the goal posts to suit your own argument?

But can't answer why there is such a drop off in transfers from overseas clubs? wonder why you can't? Did you know look at the figures provided?

how do you know that there is no urgency going on at the club about transfers? source from inside the club or someone who worked at the club? 

We know there is no urgency because there never is. Plod, plod, plod along.

[Mercer 4581]

4 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Not heard anything but wouldn't be surprised to see Tosin back with us this season. 

Doesn't seem to be in city's 1st team squad from what I can see. 

Get him and another permanent cb would be great. 

 

Understand City only interested in a permanent deal and would be about £4million plus 25% sell on profit.

[blue_n_white99 203]

6 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Dack here till 2022 at least we have a years option on his deal 

Is that the case with any of the others?

[islander200 2028]

4 minutes ago, blue_n_white99 said:

Is that the case with any of the others?

Not sure it's only been said about Dack

[Fraserkirky 1768]

10 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Understand City only interested in a permanent deal and would be about £4million plus 25% sell on profit.

Never in a million years Tony says(about what he wasted on Gallagher).

Edited September 7, 2020 by Fraserkirky

[pick32 531]

9 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Understand City only interested in a permanent deal and would be about £4million plus 25% sell on profit.

Good deal for someone, wonder if they would except 4 years of instalments haha 

[AJW 651]

25 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Understand City only interested in a permanent deal and would be about £4million plus 25% sell on profit.

Money for old rope that ...be worth £20m in 2 years time 

[Jlee1984 135]

Local reporters have struggled for last couple of seasons, The most they get is he’s on the list, Money is very tight for most sides and the last thing they want is whispers getting out to scupper the deal, probably guarantee the next signing will be out of the blue and not reported till it’s nearly done 

[tomphil 12713]

40 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Understand City only interested in a permanent deal and would be about £4million plus 25% sell on profit.

Worth it, why aren't we all over it ?

Oh yeah, he isn't a forward.

[TruRover 411]

4 million for Tosin would be a bargain. End of. Only going to get better aswell. 
 

Still feel like there’s a chance of him ending up on loan here towards the end of the window if he hasn’t ended up somewhere else.