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I’m pretty sure we need to see some big developments today if we have any chance of getting one of them over the line. I would say to TM : Ambition is great, but not at the cost of missing out on some decent players within our price range!

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13 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Having been at many games and also watched many on tv, I don't believe this oft-repeated mantra at all.

You can see the whole pitch rather than the select area where the camera is focused. Why do managers like to scout players in person if its just as good to watch on tv?

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It feels like they might be stuck between 2 approaches of going Hail Mary for promotion this season with our current crop aided by a marquee signing or this 'incremental improvement' Mowbray has said before. It sounds like we were happy to plod along as is and working on Gallagher etc but all of a sudden were in the thick of a playoff push and Assombalonga has recently been made available.

A marquee signing wouldn't only be good for this season but great for next season too were we to miss out.

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Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

Some on Twitter are now saying we are in for Peter Crouch. Who knows :D 

I see Sky are linking Dack to Burnley. That would cause some uproar 

Dack can do better than Burnley.  Come to think of it I can do better than Burnley and I am nearly 70.

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11 hours ago, Stuart said:

You don’t know more than anyone else on here about how the deal is structured but talk expertly about “missing the point”.

If the deal was £3m, for instance, with add-ons which could take the deal “up to” £7m then this being common knowledge would take the heat massively off player and manager. But it isn’t, the manager is having to defend the fee by saying “it is just a number and doesn’t matter”. But again it isn’t just a number and it does matter, because we could have had two, even three, very good players for that kind of money.

Perception is reality and the perception is that we have grossly overpaid for a player not ready for first team football in the Championship - despite having played a lot in this division. The signing is an odd one and the debate will continue until he finds form and looks like justifying a fee.

Theres nothing worse on a messageboard that people saying “can we just stop discussing whatever”. No, if people want to discuss it, let them. If people don’t want to discuss it, stay out of the discussion. It really is that simple.

If people want to discuss Brereton and his fee they should do so in the thread dedicated to the player. 

Almost every news outlet reported the fee as being structured, with the possibility that it could rise to 6-7m. I'm not going out on a limb by stating that; however, all of you asserting that this isn't common knowledge or that we may have locked ourselves into a 7m fee are. 

I think it is perfectly appropriate to ask that people stop endlessly discussing it in a topic that relates to player movement in THIS window. 

 

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39 minutes ago, Mellor Rover said:

Also in response to some on here claiming we already have plenty of strikers.

Sheffield united now have Scott Hogan, Madine, Sharp, McGoldrick and Leon Clarke all at the club.

Edit: and Washington.

Villa really are a weird club. Obviously hellbent on promotion yet strengthen a rival with Hogan. Hope they feck it up again this year (looking likely). 

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1 hour ago, JHRover said:

I'm in two minds to be honest. I'd be very pleased with a signing of Assombalonga's calibre provided the deal was reasonable and if it was a loan that there was provision in place to make it permanent come the summer.

I'd be less supportive or keen on the idea if it were merely a stopgap loan until the summer and a permanent arrangement is out of the question financially. Why? Because I quite like the idea of building something that will last not a few months but a few years and whilst it would be nice to push the boat out now to try and sneak into the top 6 the probability is we won't get there this season and need to keep one eye on the longer term. So by all means invest in quality but make sure there is something to build on whatever happens. Signing Assombalonga or Gallagher purely on a loan until the summer might do a job but would then need re-visiting in a few months when we'd have to go through it all over again.

In some ways I'd be more comfortable with Gallagher on loan with an agreement to make permanent come June, though I completely accept Assombalonga is currently in a different ball park to Gallagher and would be a statement of intent.

If a loanee helped take us up,I couldn't care less. Once up there, we're looking to sign players we couldn't attract now anyway. Austin would stand up to the physical stuff and score goals, after all he's done it before.

It looks to me that Balaji has his tail up and wants to go for it!

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3 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Villa really are a weird club. Obviously hellbent on promotion yet strengthen a rival with Hogan. Hope they feck it up again this year (looking likely). 

They need to try and somehow balance their books. If Hogan does well there and Sheffield go up, they could get 15 million for him. I don't think Sheffield are Villas rivals anyway. They are going for automatic, Villa will do well to keep in touch with us.  They are a very weird club. 

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 https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17395457.rovers-chief-on-britt-assombalonga-and-charlie-austin-links/

Interesting...

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29 minutes ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Villa really are a weird club. Obviously hellbent on promotion yet strengthen a rival with Hogan. Hope they feck it up again this year (looking likely). 

I watched their match against Ipswich and yeah, based on that I'd be very surprised if they even get a playoff place, let alone promoted. 

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According to LT our primary target is Sam Gallager. Hope they are off the mark as as he is the most underwhelming out of the 3 mentioned, although wouldn’t be too bad. 

Hoping for a marquee signing to get excited about. Surely got to have some movement today.

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4 minutes ago, BigBar said:

I'd have said "underwhelming"...

But cold light of day, any reinforcement up top is always welcomed and Sammy G on a permanent wouldn't be too bad at all.

 

Mods please ban Madon cheers.

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24 minutes ago, S8 & Blue said:

I'd have said "underwhelming"...

But cold light of day, any reinforcement up top is always welcomed and Sammy G on a permanent wouldn't be too bad at all.

 

Mods please ban Madon cheers.

Gallagher on a permanent I'd be happy with, would he get the goals to fire us into the top 6 this season probably not but he would be a good signing looking ahead to next season and years to come. Gallagher on loan I would be underwhelmed with as in the short term he probably doesn't improve us greatly to push for top 6 this season like an Austin or Assombalonga would.

Personally I think this season we are still a few players away from a side good enough to go up, I'd like to see us bringing someone in on a permanent as it would show we are looking ahead to next season where with the correct signings we could be serious contenders for promotion. Another reason that a permanent would be best is that we need to be looking to replace Graham long term (rather than a short term back up) we are hugely reliant on him but he will be 34 come next season. If we are able to do it Assombalonga on a permanent would be my preference if that's beyond us then Gallagher on a permanent is a good alternative.

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According to wiki Gallgher's strike rate is roughly 1 in 6, which isn't great. Assombalonga and Austin obviously find the net much more often, but would likely also cost a lot more money in the short and long-term. Ultimately you tend to get what you pay for, with the odd exception here and there. 

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Not heard anything else but from the above article it sounds like Waggott couldn't pull it off... gutted if so! 

I'd still take Gallagher by all means but I still have a bit of hope for Assombalonga coming in.

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Just now, Madon said:

Not heard anything else but from the above article it sounds like Swagg couldn't pull it off... gutted if so! 

I'd still take Gallagher by all means but I still have a bit of hope for Assombalonga coming in.

Does state that if Tony wanted one of them they would pursue it though...

Wouldn't be too disheartened with Gallagher myself. As long as we've given Assombalonga a go and checked all the options, if they decide it isn't for us then fair enough!

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Gallagher has always been the primary target because it is a player that Mowbray knows and more importantly he fits within the budget that we have left.  Austin and Britt are players that are available and offered to a number of clubs but in terms of cost it would beyond our current budgets unless there is intervention from the owners.  We need to get a striker in before the deadline so it is sensible that the focus is on the one that we can afford.

Austin and Assombalonga would be amazing in different ways but these are complicated deals which will require more money from the owners which in itself is a complicated process and then we would have to beat a number of clubs who are interested.

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Funny thing i saw from a Southampton fan...

They're own player Sam Gallagher scored more goals at Birmingham last season than the one they're supposedly signing in Che Adams.

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1 hour ago, Mellor Rover said:

Also in response to some on here claiming we already have plenty of strikers.

Sheffield united now have Scott Hogan, Madine, Sharp, McGoldrick and Leon Clarke all at the club.

Edit: and Washington.

Clarke off to Wigan

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

Some on Twitter are now saying we are in for Peter Crouch. Who knows :D 

I see Sky are linking Dack to Burnley. That would cause some uproar 

No chance on either. 

Dack isnt a Dyche type player. 

11 minutes ago, Madon said:

Not heard anything else but from the above article it sounds like Waggott couldn't pull it off... gutted if so! 

I'd still take Gallagher by all means but I still have a bit of hope for Assombalonga coming in.

Clearly Assombalonga has been offered around by Boro. Same with Austin. 

But neither were ever Mowbray's targets imo but offrered to us by the club or Player's agent

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The LT article more or less confirms we are interested in Austin and BA, but their wage demands are way too high. This side is all about team spirit and togetherness so I can see why TM doesn't want to upset that balance by bringing in a player who earns significantly more. Austin could potentially happen on loan if the Saints pay a significant proportion of his wages. But that would only be a short term fix. Could BA be persuaded if he has a hefty goal scoring bonus and the promise of a significant rise in salary if we go up? 

Gallagher would be decent but a little underwhelming compared to the two mentioned above.

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