The following issues are what really irk me about our man in the dugout.... Playing Elliott Bennett at left back and shoehorning him in to any position going to ensure he is on the field, when our strongest eleven doesn’t contain him. Playing Sam Gallagher on the right wing Playing Lewis Holtby as a false 9 (Neither of the above have ever played in those positions before signing with us) Complaining about FFP when he waxed £12 Million on Gallagher and Brereton. Selling the ‘keeper with currently the most clean sheets in the league for £3 Million and replacing him with an inferior signing on loan. Giving Richie Smallwood and Sam Hart contract extensions when they won’t play for the rest of the season. Sam Hart won’t even get in the squad when we have two left backs our injured and an emergency one out also. Refusing to play actual wingers. Saying defenders are coming, then only signing them on loan, so at the end of the season, we are back to square one. Talking our play off hopes up, then bottling it whenever we get near. (I accept that’s not only his fault, but the buck stops with him). There are probably other things, but these are what immediately came to mind.

It's the football on display most of the time that does my head in. Dull, uninspiring, unimaginative, boring, tedious, gutless, I could fill a page with similar adjectives but they would all equally apply to the manager as well. For me football is there to get your blood racing and your heart pounding, it's to send you home with excitement coursing through your body. At the moment it's more likely to send you to sleep. Do they not realise they're supposed to be part of the " entertainment Industry " ?

I think we're very much at a cross road again as a club, going into this summer gives me a very familiar feeling of the summer of 2015. Remember the optimism of the opening game of that season against Cardiff, a decent crowd on and on paper a side that looked like it could challenge. We stumbled a bit before finally spending around two weeks in the top 6 around November time, before an awful Christmas period and an inconsistent second half of the season, which was masked by a good FA Cup run. That side had Rhodes & Gestede scoring 20 goals each, King, Cairney, Marshall & Conway as other attacking outlets, along with a back four including Hanley, Duffy & Baptiste, with an ex England GK behind them. We ended up finishing 9th and 11 points off the play offs. Bowyers time was clearly up, but we held on and soon enough FFP bit, Gestede & Cairney were sold on, to be replaced by Danny Guthrie & Nathan Delfounso, downhill for the next two years followed by a relegation. I can see things going the same way this summer unfortunately.

Don't want to sound trite but honestly just play the youth. Nowt left to play for and we might as well see just who is good enough over a decent run of pressure-free matches. Sooner have someone like JRC and Davenport at least getting a proper look in than Bennett and Johnson doing the usual for 90 minutes. May even make some discoveries that alleviate the mile long shopping list we have for the summer transfer window. Of course, what'll happen is the same core of 15 or so players we've had in the past four matches. If you didn't laugh you'd cry. Going for a Cardiff win come what may.

Well done, and good luck with the pup. Doggies are great fun and will give you years of affection and great memories. Money much better spent than the ephemeral pleasures of a here-today gone-tomorrow holiday.

He's been here 3.5 years !! What more could I learn in 5 more games?

You’d have Karl Robinson or Richie Wellens over Mick McCarthy or Chris Hughton.......?

I just look at the facts 5 points from the last 21 available, with 1 reasonable performance out of 7

Mowbray's own personal target was 70 points and he is going to fall short of that. He seems to be teflon and must have the easiest job in football. Seemingly no pressure on him, brings his mate in as CEO, gives contracts to all his favourites and spins the clueless uninterested owners a few line of how rosy everything is. It honestly does seem like he has the job for as long as he wants it and he knows it.

Reading through this thread and looking at the poll figures it is plain that the majority of Rovers fans want a change of manager. It also seems that many fans who are advocating sticking with Mowbray are doing so on the basis of fear of getting someone worse - better the devil you know. It's interesting that at the time of this post 8% of voters don't care what happens - and those are fans who are involved enough to use BRFCS. Imagine the thousands who really don't care any more. That is a really damning reflection on the state of the club. What is common to all 3 camps is the lack of any optimism at all. Nobody seems to think we could be a successful, ambitious, well run club any time soon. The current situation may be slightly better than in some previous years but that is mainly due to Mowbray's Mr Nice Guy persona. In reality he has pulled off a masterstroke by installing Waggott and sweet talking Venky's. The club seems stable because there are no internal rumblings - no wonder really. Owners, board, manger all reasonably happy and totally secure. Who cares what the fans feel? This period of calm could have worked in the club's favour as Venky's were happy to loosen the purse strings for Mowbray but, unfortunately, he has blown that golden opportunity with appalling signings on long contracts. Can you imagine John Williams allowing any manager to gamble such a percentage of the budget on unproven players. The scouting system seems to be non-existent and we all suspect certain agencies still rule the roost.I doubt we will get that opportunity again. The whole club seems to be on easy street and the players don't know the value of the shirt. We are missing a Bill Fox behind the scenes reminding the players how privileged they are to represent the famous Blackburn Rovers. So if Mowbray stays or goes will it make any difference? Is there any plan whatsoever to put the club back on the right track? When will the debt stop spiralling out of control? No wonder there is no optimism. Does anyone truly enjoy following Rovers at the moment - pre/post match in the pub apart ? The only route back to having a club to be proud of is if the owners leave. It may take administration or relegation or any other unforeseen scenario but i'd take any of those to get the club back to something like it used to be when it was a privilege and a source of pride and actually fun to be a Rovers fan. If Venky's suddenly change and start showing a serious interest than I will hold up my hands and say 'fair play' I was wrong. It's not going to happen is it? The only way I can show my disapproval of the owners is by boycotting home games which I have done since the appointment of Owen Coyle - that was the final straw for me. If more fans boycott then they may get the message. The club is currently soulless and hopeless and a shadow of what it was pre-Venky's. Mowbray stays or Mowbray goes - that's not really the problem or the solution. The club needs saving. It's our club not theirs. It's painful to watch it limp along in it's current state.

Wagner will be lucky to survive at Schalke after a disappointing season. We could position ourselves ready to strike. You seem eager to rubbish every ambitious suggestion. No wonder we end up with the jokers of the world like Coyle in the dugout. Stendel was sacked by Barnsley for non football reasons and didn't have long enough to turn around Hearts who were bottom when he joined. Gus Poyet - not my cup of tea but has a good record and is high profile and available. Methinks you will just try to find any reason imaginable to rubbish any suggestion. I came up with 16 suggestions all with proven track records. Yes they may cost but what's the point in going cheap on the most important job at the club when £150 million in the red?

Does make me laugh how fans’ own ignorance of other managers means the one in situ should never leave.

If we won all 5 games I'd still want him to go (but we won't).

Asks Nyambe to cover the entire right flank on his own, then berates him when teams get in behind him. He's a bad man manager.

That 12million, the shambles in selling our keeper and ending up with Walton, and the inability to bring in a decent centre half in 6 transfer windows are the big failings. The latter was plugged by loaning Tosin, but the £12 mill will really be the defining factor. In an effort to try and make it not look like the disaster it is, the two players in question have been shoehorned into the side out wide, whilst superior players have been dropped. The first mistake was spending the money on duds, the second was constantly weakening the side to play them. We got told last summer to give Mowbray another year and next season will be better for Brereton. The same suspects will now give the same spiel once again.

Yep, we don't want to end up with someone on the managerial scrapheap who had to walk out of his previous job at a League 1 Club before he was pushed after a run of ten games without a win. Oooo errrr........ hang on! ?

8 pages of pointless back and forth. ‘He should go’ ‘he should stay’. ‘He’d be good’ ‘he’s no better’ ‘wouldn’t come’ and on and on. (I’ve posted too much on this thread myself). Why bother wasting the energy? He’s one of the most powerful people in the club. His ‘boss’ doesn’t make decisions on managers. He has obviously ingratiated himself with the owners in their yearly get together, owners that are completely disconnected from the club, so as long as we plod along he won’t be going anywhere. Completely unhealthy way to run a football club, as proven each season with the one and only (and late) meeting a year to sign off everything from transfers to season tickets, a meeting that always has us behind the curve, but it’s been a decade now and it ain’t going to change. We’ve just got to hope against hope that a manager, who to me, has got to that stale stage where the players are just no longer listening, stumbles across a winning formula as there won’t be anyone else coming through the door.

Just what has Mowbray to offer as a DOF? IMO, dinosaurian, no judge of talent and a bloke who's told us he doesn't / can't negotiate with players! I'm pretty certain any new man would not want Mowbray poking his nose in. I think he's had his chance and blown it. Three and a half years down the line and we are barely better than when he took over. Last three performances, one could be forgiven Kean / Coyle were back in town. Whoever succeeds Mowbray has, IMO, one helluva job on their hands owing to, IMO, Mowbray's incompetence not least demonstrated by the Brereton / Gallagher / Raya / Walton shambles.

Behave! You’ve can’t have spent much time in football grounds or indeed with other fans generally if you thing supporters don’t also vent - they do because they care! (Though you probably know that all too well and you are just performing your usual trolling routine)

None of them shout out to me as likely to be better than TM, I don't know about anyone else...

Its just depressing when reading Mowbray's comments. I could accept the rubbish performances and missing the play offs and even the manager having another chance next season if he was going to come out fighting and promise a new approach, ruthless action to change it, acceptance that it is last chance saloon time. But his latest comments are just awful. Basically incremental improvements are great, a dollop of 'making players better' to appeal to the money men, I work hard, I make people better. Talking again about this style of play which he obsesses over despite it being meaningless if we get put away by sides like Barnsley. I'm not interested in 'dominating'. Why can't he just focus on sorting the shambles of a defence out? Back at 2+ goals against per game now. It is also quite clear from the comments that he is sending veiled messages to India and hasn't actually spoken to the owners directly. 'I'll be waiting on a call and seeing what their expectation is and what they want to do' This has to be one of the more disturbing comments I have heard from Mowbray. Remarkably similar to the stuff Lambert used to come out with when he was waiting on answers from India but only got silence.

You should have said that then. You said he didn't get them promoted and he did.

It may be a good point but you rather undermine it by making your first choice someone who has never managed before. Appointing someone who has never managed before is a far greater risk than appointing a manager who has had a many years of success in the Premiership.

If Smallwood gets a new deal I will completely boycott Blackburn Rovers.

Just because a manager has been sacked it doesn't mean he is a bad manager. Souness was sacked in his two previous jobs before we appointed him. Sam was only available when we appointed him because Newcastle sacked him. I'd be ecstatic if we brought Chris Hughton in and he has been sacked 3 times in the last 10 years but the difference between him and Mowbray is that he has a very good Championship record and has only been sacked when he has been managing at the top level. Even the Mowbray the man you believe is the right man for the job has been sacked multiple times in his career.

“He’s not our player so he’s not someone I need to focus on. I’ve got my own players asking me questions before I start thinking about signing other players. Dam Looks like the likes of Bennett Smallwoods & Hart Graham want further extensions...Knock Knock Crazy goings on Down at Ewood .. This is what happens when nobody is in charge .. part time directers with no powers ....

Agreed, probably should have clarified before I still want our skeleton of Nyambe / Lenihan / Tosin - Travis - Arma present by and large, just the usual suspects rightfully dropped and, instead of being replaced by more filler or dodgy formation changes, replaced by actual lads hungry to prove themselves. It won't be good for either anyone concerned if we essentially field the u23 squad.

I’m not particularly talking about brfcs, so I’ve not missed any point. The wider fanbase, places like Twitter being a prime example of it, is full of fans who think Venky’s are now good owners that we should be ever so grateful to, and ALSO think TM is irreplaceable. Their primary issue with him going is not a worry, like many of those that want him to stay on here (I’m probably in this camp myself), that the owners will pick some clown to take over, but ‘little owd Rovers’ couldn’t do any better. ‘Face facts, we are a small lower league club’ etc. Seemingly not realising that it is their beloved owners that have made us so ‘little’ and seemingly unattractive to potential managers in the first place.

You missed the point. The ones calling for a change of manager earlier in the thread refused to be drawn on a successor, they had no plan, a bit like Venkys. Also the posters who want Mowbray to stay are being pigeon holed into "Venkys can't pick a better replacement" which isn't entirely true. I personally think he deserves another 10 games with Dack back and a bit of summer trading. I actually gave up a while back worrying who those imbeciles would appoint next to be honest.

Very predictable by TM in the Telegraph, whining about Dack being out was always going to be just around the corner. The problem is its his fault we've got so few options all over the pitch, including £12m spent on two strikers that currently look non league standard. Really winds me up how he appears to not have to answer for being bang average at his job.

Venky's have now owned us longer than Uncle Jack did, despite being the very antithesis in every way. What are they still doing here? What could they possibly be getting out of this? Do they actually own the club or is this just one giant ponzi scheme for footy agents?

Foundations? Under Mowbray's tenure, the club has probably lost close to £60million. Mowbray has spunked fees and wages of £20million+ up the wall on Brereton and Gallagher, the effects will still be felt in the accounts for the next 2 or 3 years. We have an unbalanced and threadbare squad, in the main bereft of quality with exceptions that can be counted on one hand - a squad that will need major surgery in the close season. As for player development, where are the 18 / 19 year olds (the next Phil Jones, Damien Duff, David Dunn etc) banging on the first team door who will become 'big players' for us (other clubs produce them)? We have half a dozen lads going on 21 or so who some folk rave about, however, they have failed to become first team players. In the main, I think our football is dire. IMO, we have no identity. To think fans called Big Sam who left us pushing for the top 8 in the PL. If you seriously think these are foundations, I'm just glad Mowbray didn't build on feckin sand!!!

Not for me. He’s had long enough and hasn’t fixed glaring problems, and had spent his budget very badly, resulting in our current problems. Why should that be rewarded? If Dack hadn’t got injured, he’d have been sold and the money gone. He’s made his bed and there is nothing about his approach that says he should be given more time or more money. It’s all well and good saying fine margins but this is Tony’s team - after four windows - and it still needs a major overhaul. Instead, he will stick with Gally and Brereton as wide men because he is just that stubborn. Enough’s enough. Just think if someone like Warnock had been given £15m - including his own wages for two seasons. We’d be challenging for promotion right now.

It’s also quite funny that of the few people currently saying stick, not a single one of them would have put Mowbray’s name forward to replace Coyle. In fact, anyone who had done so would have been laughed off the site. By them! Apparently being sacked in the past is also a bad sign, never mind walking after no wins in 10 games. If it happened now at Rovers, those six draws would be pointed as as showing we are hard to beat! The contradictions are palpable.

Brings back great memories

Hark the super fan we bow in your presence.

Fired in the first week - so no point.

All you seem to do is rubbish other people's suggestion. For example I suggested Rowett yesterday you for some bizarre reason rubbished that he would Leave Millwall for us. Yet today you are proposing him. You ask could Sparky (who has had a very good managerial career) do it without his normal coaching staff and then say that Damien Johnson a man who has never managed would be your first choice. Do you not see a slight contradiction here? Gus Poyet didn't fail at Brighton it was him who started them on the road that they are on now. He also did well at Bordeaux in his last job as well. I told you plenty of reasons yesterday why we could get Jokanovic. Evidently you ignored them Stendel wasn't sacked by Hearts

‘The Venky’s’, an actual journalist ?‍♂️

I seen a date for the start of the season for sometime in September with the transfer window open to end of the October Would you have said that Chris Basham was PL quality before Sheff Utd promoted? or when they signed Jack Robinson from Notts Forest. or Brownhill who moved from Bristol City to Burnley, is he PL quality? or would you said that Adam Webster was PL quality when last summer he moved from Bristol City to Brighton for 20 million? he was at Ipswich only 12 months before hand I seen him linked with West Ham this morning Kamil Jozwiak from Lech

We need to see the youngsters and those who might be able to help us next week. But there is a balance I'd argue that we should start Rothwell every game until the end of the season and take the leash of him. He is incredibly frustrating and his end product is severely lacking but we haven't got many options atm. He put a great pass on for Gallagher on saturday and there still might be a player in there. The other option for me is Chapman but from the little I've seen since he has been back is he is finished. Davenport has to start all remaining games, is he good enough? We wont know until we get a look. Same with JRC if fit. Buckley has not convinced me as of yet but he has talent, give him some game time. Unfortunately popadom wrists Walton has to start as I dont see any viable alternative. Walton Nyambe Lenihan Tosin Downing JRC Travis Davenport Rothwell Holtby Armstrong Give Buckley, Vale, Carter, whoever else is actually in training (thompson?) Time off the bench.

I'm not on twitter, I can only speak for whats going on here in Brfcsville. The current pool of available managers is as bad as I can ever remember, how many those managers have taken a club with no money, no staff and mad owners to the Premiership? If they sacked Mowbray today I wouldn't shed any tears, but I would if they brought the likes of Mick McCarthy in to replace him

Hes so lightweight, whats the point ? Send him away and replace him with someone better.

I suppose a drift that takes 9 months can be classified as slow. ? We are still 4 points off last seasons total with 5 games to play. Best case scenario we beat it by what, 3-4 points? Likely scenario we equal it. That isn't good enough after the money he has spent and shows clear stagnation, not to mention abysmal football. If Mowbray stays, I genuinely fear we'll sell at least 1 of Armstrong, Lenihan or Travis, and lose Dack and Nyambe next June. Bennett and Gallagher will make 90 starting appearances combined, and Walton will be our big money signing. Time. To. Go.

Mick McCarthy, Chris Hughton, Neil Warnock, Aitor Karanka, Slavisa Jokanovic, Gary Rowett, Alex Neil, Gus Poyet, Jaap Stam and Carlos Carvalhal - all are achievable managers for billionaire ambitious owners and all have strong recent track records in the Championship. Other options could include Mark Hughes, Tony Pulis, Lee Johnson, Javi Gracia, Daniel Stendel, David Wagner So there's 16 names I've just come up with whilst having a brew at my desk. The majority I think would relish an upward looking Championship club wanting promotion to the Premier League. There will be many others abroad and in the lower leagues that I haven't even considered.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/18561995.bielsa-rovers-tactical-switch-didnt-expect-leeds-visit/ Mowbray managed to confuse an esteemed coach like Bielsa with his tactics. Welcome to our world Marcelo. Actually if he watched us regularly he would know we play a centre forward in the wide right position.

If we are looking for a winger, here is our guy : Philip Zinckernagel He is playing excellent for the team that is dominating the Norwegian League at the moment, he was also very good last year. His contract ends in december this year.

Suspect this window will be far more about who goes out than who comes in. If Mowbray stays then I predict a dramatic fall off in our currently uninspiring mid table performance irrespective of who comes in or goes out. On the pitch, if we're to progress we HAVE to keep hold of Nyambe, Lenihan, Travis, Dack and Armstrong. How do people expect us to thrive if we sell one or more of those? Devil's advocate mode: would we be better off keeping them and risking FFP sanctions of being unable to sign anyone for a short period and relying more heavily on youth alongside than losing them and bringing in more dross as replacements? A quality first choice keeper is also a must. Wouldn't be too disappointed to see anyone else go and I'd be particularly keen to offload Mulgrew, Bennett, Evans, Williams and Gallagher. I certainly wouldn't give Graham, Samuel or Smallwood new deals either. Conversely I'd like to see whether a new manager could get a tune out of Brereton, Chapman, and Holtby. Bottom line: we need a dynamic, progressive manager who can oversee a massive turn round in personnel and integrate youngsters like Wharton, Magloire, Rankin Costello, Buckley, Butterworth into becoming first team regulars alongside the five crown jewels and one or two experienced hands after all the deadwood is shipped out. Will Mowbray be shipped out or any of this happen? Probably not. It'll be crown jewels out, contract extensions or new deals for the rest all round, bit more dross in and more youngsters sent out on loan.

If we listened to those people who say “there is nobody better” then Gary Bowyer would still be here and we’d be in the fourth tier.

Hatred? The reason that hes come under fire is that early on his attribute ie being quick and able to run at people were excited as they arent attribues weve seem often from Rovers players in recent years. 2 years on, a record of 2 goals and 3 assists is nowhere near enough and far too often he is totally ineffective. Holtby started the game really well but totally faded I would agree and was overall quite poor.