Butty 2412 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Theaxe15 said: From reading around twitter it seems more the opposite. Good at playing out from the back but a liability defensively. Who knows though. I'd rather it your way round I must say Well if I’ve read it wrong then I can see why we are interested in him. Mowbray doesn’t like actual defenders does he he’d rather have a Toisin than a Samba that’s for sure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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neophox 1179 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Would you have signed Kipre if you were promoted to Prem League? Unsure Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rovers11 1005 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, neophox said: Would you have signed Kipre if you were promoted to Prem League? Unsure No, I'd want better. Not convinced that WBA are that keen on him, he's clearly a back up option for them. You can't blame Kipre for holding out though to see if they do firm up their interest as you can't turn down a premier league move and premier league money. Not too keen on the idea of signing Sarr. Potentially ok as a back-up (is he any better than D Williams though?) but certainly not as a first choice centre half. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
J*B 4378 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 28/08/2020 at 11:22, J*B said: I don’t either, but I’ve been told the opposite — Kipre will hold out for a big move. I really like Kipre as a player, but for me this has been going on too long now. This is the 6th day he has had us waiting to see what WBA do, I would rather we moved on to our next target, especially if they really want to play here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roversfan99 8631 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 We surely are looking for more than just a solitary centre back, we want 2 plus other positions especially left back. I get that there is an element of balance in terms of allocating the budget and I also get that Kipre is likely better than any alternative but even if we left that contract on the table, we could be getting in a left back and another centre back but it all seems to be one in at a time. If we go to Bournemouth with a defence with Bell and Wharton in, we will struggle. Imagine if Lenihan picks up a knock for Ireland! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exiled_Rover 2277 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: We surely are looking for more than just a solitary centre back, we want 2 plus other positions especially left back. I get that there is an element of balance in terms of allocating the budget and I also get that Kipre is likely better than any alternative but even if we left that contract on the table, we could be getting in a left back and another centre back but it all seems to be one in at a time. If we go to Bournemouth with a defence with Bell and Wharton in, we will struggle. Imagine if Lenihan picks up a knock for Ireland! Which is interesting because Wharton looked far more composed than Lenihan in the Cup game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JHRover 12511 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Which is interesting because Wharton looked far more composed than Lenihan in the Cup game. Even if we accept Wharton is ready and good enough that still leaves 2 slots to fill. Assuming that Mulgrew and Williams are on their way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RovingRover 618 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Turns out WBA have offered the same wage structure to Kipré as Rovers and he has no guarantee of game time. Will probably still choose WBA, but has been made to look a right wally the last few days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral Nelsen 1137 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 According to the Oracle, the young Celtic striker has signed for us earlier today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unsall 695 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said: Which is interesting because Wharton looked far more composed than Lenihan in the Cup game. Think Lenihan and Wharton could do a job, but knowing our luck they will probably get injured at same time, Defo need 2 C/bs, because we can’t rely on the young ones, get two In and let one or two young ones go on loan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JoeH 2718 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 5 hours ago, roversfan99 said: part of a defence that conceded 63 goals. And I think it's time there was a general discussion about Darragh Lenihan. At centre-back you can get away with a lot because not everyone can see the mistakes you're making. Lenihan struggles big time with his in-the-box positioning. Take this goal vs Reading. Lenihan completely out of position, Obita can run into the grand open space left by Nyambe who's attempting to cover the lack of an RCB, he can cross to the open lad who Lenihan should be with, or he can aim further for the two lads who've doubled up on Hayden Carter due to Lenihan's absence. Goal ensued. Or here more recently against Doncaster where number 11 and number 9 just 14 seconds into the game were given all of this space in the box, Lenihan is so deep that they can all arrive into the box, Bell is busy marking 26 and it leaves two players completely unmarked. Against a Championship side we'd have been 1-0 down here. And this is a little more general, but an issue with our defence in general, including Lenihan, is a lack of urgency to get out when the ball is cleared. Bell plays a shit ball out to their man on the edge and the line meanders out towards the ball carrier. Leaves the shot, and three open players unmarked in the box for him to choose from. Goal ensues. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exiled_Rover 2277 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 41 minutes ago, JHRover said: Even if we accept Wharton is ready and good enough that still leaves 2 slots to fill. Assuming that Mulgrew and Williams are on their way. Oh absolutely - we need two CBs if Williams leaves. Mulgrew isn't even a factor for me - he's just a drain on resources. I've said for a while: Lenihan, A.N. Other, Wharton and Williams is a pretty decent group of CBs for this level, if A.N. Other is quality. Let Carter go out on loan for the year. We desperately need a LB above anything else though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
roversfan99 8631 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, JoeH said: And I think it's time there was a general discussion about Darragh Lenihan. At centre-back you can get away with a lot because not everyone can see the mistakes you're making. Lenihan struggles big time with his in-the-box positioning. Take this goal vs Reading. Lenihan completely out of position, Obita can run into the grand open space left by Nyambe who's attempting to cover the lack of an RCB, he can cross to the open lad who Lenihan should be with, or he can aim further for the two lads who've doubled up on Hayden Carter due to Lenihan's absence. Goal ensued. Or here more recently against Doncaster where number 11 and number 9 just 14 seconds into the game were given all of this space in the box, Lenihan is so deep that they can all arrive into the box, Bell is busy marking 26 and it leaves two players completely unmarked. Against a Championship side we'd have been 1-0 down here. And this is a little more general, but an issue with our defence in general, including Lenihan, is a lack of urgency to get out when the ball is cleared. Bell plays a shit ball out to their man on the edge and the line meanders out towards the ball carrier. Leaves the shot, and three open players unmarked in the box for him to choose from. Goal ensues. He was all over the place on Saturday but he is so important to us because he has been our only defender under Mowbray who can lead the defence and head a ball. He missed 9 games last season in which we picked up 5 points and lost 6 games. He isnt perfect but he is so important to us. We need more defenders who can actually defend. Kipre would be perfect but seemingly it wont be happening. Sarr is possibly the opposite of what we need. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neophox 1179 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, RovingRover said: Turns out WBA have offered the same wage structure to Kipré as Rovers and he has no guarantee of game time. Will probably still choose WBA, but has been made to look a right wally the last few days. Where have you heard this? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
neophox 1179 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 1 minute ago, OnePhilT said: Regarding Connor McBride (I think)... No confirmation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AspRover 199 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Admiral Nelsen said: According to the Oracle, the young Celtic striker has signed for us earlier today. That's interesting, possibly we're holding off announcing it because there's another signing imminent and they want to do the press at the same time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Wizard Windy Miller 3322 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, AspRover said: That's interesting, possibly we're holding off announcing it because there's another signing imminent and they want to do the press at the same time? Or he's not really worth announcing.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AspRover 199 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Or he's not really worth announcing.. yeah or that, but right now if you've got straws I'm clutching at them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OssyLad 174 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said: Or he's not really worth announcing.. He’s for u23s Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RTM08 249 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I hope we've moved on from Kipre tbh. This is dragging on way too long and he clearly doesn't want to be here, so move on to the next target. TM will be rubbing his hands together about having his excuses about why we still have no defenders 18 months after "Defenders are coming". If we end up with JRC-Lenihan-Wharton-Bell against Bournemouth questions really need to be asked about what on earth is happening behind the scenes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Wizard Windy Miller 3322 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, OssyLad said: He’s for u23s Yup - so no need for any fanfare. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unsall 695 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, RTM08 said: I hope we've moved on from Kipre tbh. This is dragging on way too long and he clearly doesn't want to be here, so move on to the next target. TM will be rubbing his hands together about having his excuses about why we still have no defenders 18 months after "Defenders are coming". If we end up with JRC-Lenihan-Wharton-Bell against Bournemouth questions really need to be asked about what on earth is happening behind the scenes. Not sure he will be rubbing his hands together, more blazing if he doesn’t get them in. Personally think he will get his 2 centre backs and a left back,anymore a bonus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JHRover 12511 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 13 minutes ago, RTM08 said: I hope we've moved on from Kipre tbh. This is dragging on way too long and he clearly doesn't want to be here, so move on to the next target. TM will be rubbing his hands together about having his excuses about why we still have no defenders 18 months after "Defenders are coming". If we end up with JRC-Lenihan-Wharton-Bell against Bournemouth questions really need to be asked about what on earth is happening behind the scenes. Yep. We can mostly appreciate that we have a budget and getting good players isnt particularly easy and there's not a lot we can do if a Premier League club decides to come in for a player we are after. But there comes a stage where we have to wonder if there is a bigger issue with being too selective or slow in our processes. End of the day 18 months on from Mowbray's defenders speech to have still not signed one suggests there is a problem Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DeeCee 1299 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Hoping Cunningham comes back and he's 100% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wing Wizard Windy Miller 3322 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Cardiff fans seem to think he's staying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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