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2 minutes ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

For those in the know - Douglas or Manning - which is the better deal ?

Style wise i think very similar. Both have a great delivery and are very good going forwards. Both may get caught out defensively. 

One is 31 and somewhat cheaper. One is 24 and a fair bit more expensive. 

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1 minute ago, DavidMailsTightPerm said:

For those in the know - Douglas or Manning - which is the better deal ?

Similar players. Do you go for experience or the future? That's the real question. Personally happy with Douglas, would be happy with Manning too. Douglas great on set pieces too.

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36 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Well the only way they can prove that they can play role of top 6 is by giving them a chance and by playing them. Cant prove owt if they dont play. No point having good young players if you dont play there

I dont get why it has to be one or the other. For a start, there are 2 wings! Having one proven performer and plenty of promising players around that all fighting for 2 places is surely a good thing?

Not being totally confident in players to regularly perform at top 6 standard who have never done so to date is surely logical. It doesnt mean that they wont play or that they cant assert themselves as first team regulars if they perform. 

Also, why dont you have a problem with Trybull coming in and potentially pushing Buckley and Davenport further away from the first team? Wheres the consistency? Or do you not want him?

6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

What is sickening is that Sky Sports haven't put on a massive charade for the actual deadline day.

By sickening, do you not mean refreshing?! All of that palava is crazy and bizarre! Transfer deadline day is turned into a massive charade as you say, reporters stood outside empty stadiums in the pissing down rain, the odious Jim White, and it all ends up covering a series of low profile loan deals and little else.

3 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

I think Trybull is cover for Johnson. It’s a tough role to play as the pivot in a three man midfield.

We then have Trybull, Evans and Buckley covering Johnson, Holtby and Rothwell.

I can see Evans going in Jan when Travis is fit, or for £1m today before being replaced by Downing.

Gutted for Davenport. Obv not trusted to step up. Would ideally need to go out into the bottom of the champ and play 30 games in a midfield three before coming back next season as Johnson’s successor. Hope he’s got it in him.

 

4 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

We would need someone to step up just like Arma did when Dack got injured. Not so long ago there were Rovers fans who who were unsure if AA could even be counted as a ‘good’ signing when reeling them off...

These young lads just need time. Hopefully Arma holds off any injuries until Dack is back but I genuinely think Gally in the middle of the three in this team might get going. Especially with some good deliveries into the box.

I have never felt that Johnson is best suited to playing in front of the back 4. He is so often caught in possession when trying to play on the half turn, he is not the best technically. His strengths lie for me when he is allowed to go forward as he has this season, he offers a real goal threat and power as shown this season so far.

I think any hopes of someone buying a constantly injured Corry Evans with 1 year left on his deal for 1m is massively optimistic!

I would not be able to expect Gallagher or indeed Brereton to step up in the same way that Armstrong has done should he pick up an injury. I think we are particularly reliant on Armstrong and of course Dack to stay fit for the majority of the season to mount a genuine play off push, which is not necessarily bad because most if not all teams need to keep their star players fit to challenge. In those 2, we have 2 goalscorers that are superior to most in the league, but I also think that the supporting cast are a fairly decent gulf in class away from that, which is why I wanted one more across the sides of the front line.

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1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Having one proven performer and plenty of promising players around that all fighting for 2 places is surely a good thing?

1 proven performer?

Dolan and Brereton been good so far.

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Also, why dont you have a problem with Trybull coming in and potentially pushing Buckley and Davenport further away from the first team? Wheres the consistency? Or do you not want him?

I dont know much About Trybull at all. Or the type of player he is. So cant comment. You will remember me saying I felt we didnt need another one and I wanted Left back in as the main priority. I want to Buckley play more and more. He will very good player for this. Which will happen this season. Davenport is a strange one. Never had the chance. 

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37 minutes ago, O'Malley said:

I reckon that having a decent transfer budget gives the club's that have that an advantage over those that dont. We appear to have recruited very well and it could be argued that the manager has played a role in that and deserves some credit. I've seen some posts that suggest that Mowbray now has to deliver a play off spot which disregards other clubs that have brought in players and had the advantage of being able to pay substantial transfer fees.

 

It should but from what I've seen over the years It doesn't always necessarily play out like that. Look at Cardiff, Burnley, Sheff United, Leicester... Didn't spent vast amounts of money. Then look at Derby, Waghorn for 8 Mill, Lawrence for 11 Mill, big wages on Rooney... They look garbage. Just because you sign a player on a free in last year of his contract doesn't mean they're worse than a player who goes for x amount of millions. 

 

When we come up against a side, I often ask myself, who in our squad would swap in theirs like for like? Granted I have a bias but there are never many players I would swap. What's been lacking is certain mentality of player and I think in Ayala, Johnson, Douglas and perhaps Trybul we may finally have that. If you look at that Norwich fans short video when he discusses our squad, he goes through our side and almost seems to be surprised at the amount of quality in there when you give it thought. I remember Merson saying the same on Soccer Saturday. Many of our players would leave for decent fee's, we have to start realising and fulfilling our potential. This has to be the best chance we've had since we've been down here, the league is open, we have to go for it and I don't just mean the playoffs....

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12 hours ago, Atko's Engine said:

Kaminski

Nyambe, Lenihan, Ayala, Douglas 

Johnson, Holtby, Rothwell

Dolan, Arma, Brereton

 

Stergiakis / Pears

JRC, Williams, Wharton / Magloire, Bell

Travis, Buckley, Davenport / Trybull 

Chapman, Gallagher, Dack

 

Plus potentially Downing, with Vale, McBride, Brennan, Butterworth and a few others looking good behind them in the U23s

I've probably missed some, and there's a couple of assumptions and a couple of square pegs in there too, but overall I'd say any combination of the above two 11s has a chance of matching anything else in this division this season.

Reasons to be hopeful I think.

That's actually 2 teams that would hold their own in the Championship - it would be half decent match watching them play each other,

wouldnt allow the 'second team' to play with 14 though - Pears, Magloire, and Davenport have to be ballboys for the day......[they can fetch Gally's shots from the trees].

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