Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 10, 2022 Moderation Lead Share Posted June 10, 2022 Probably would have helped if this had happened a week or so earlier, then we could have afforded to keep Lenihan… In all seriousness though, good player when fit, but never actually fit. Get him gone though for me. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mattyblue Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 So that would be just the two first team centre halves left (and one of those was on loan in the third division last season). Big rebuild (sorry I mean big potential loanee list to work through) for the DoF, or whoever the hell makes decisions down there. Seven weeks to go… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelton Blue Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Fear not, we'll be 'challenging for promotion in the coming season'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: I would let him and look to bring someone who will be available for majority of the season Providing we can actually replace him, i'd let him go, he spends too long on the treatment table. But we'd be down to just 2 centre backs and no experienced player in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) I think it's the best time to be getting rid of dead wood and any player that isn't fully committed to the club. New dof New head coach very soon🤞 Hopefully also a couple of new additions to the coaching staff Fresh start and nfresh ideas all around. Edited June 10, 2022 by Armchair supporter supremo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JBiz Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 Defenders are going? 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDom Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Are the rumours true of someone wanting to pay a fee for ayala? If so bite their hands off. I'm a fan of him when fit but that's a rarity, his wages and any fee would be a huge bonus for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Living in Granada or Blackburn ? Let me think about that for a millisecond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigUts Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 If Ayala was consistently fit we would probably have one of the recently promoted / relegated sides knocking on our door. As it is, he is consistently injured for >50% of our games so is basically a waste of wages. If anyone wants to take him, even for nothing, I'd have him gone and try to put the dosh towards either a young up-and-comer who costs a fee with smaller wages, or one of the more experienced frees knocking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Get him gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Living in Granada or Blackburn ? Let me think about that for a millisecond. Don’t think a Rovers player has lived in Blackburn since Alan Irvine lived near me at Pleckgate in about 1990… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry_Pirate Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 There's something I can't grasp about this pre-season. Anyone help. All players are under contract until June 30th 2022, yet can agree deals with other teams - Lenihan to 'boro - to commence on July 1st. Players are back in on the 13th June, so shouldn't all outgoing players (Nymabe specifically) be expected at Brockhall on Monday? Is Lenihan even allowed to train with Middlesbrough before his Rovers deal expires - since we're still paying him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigUts Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said: There's something I can't grasp about this pre-season. Anyone help. All players are under contract until June 30th 2022, yet can agree deals with other teams - Lenihan to 'boro - to commence on July 1st. Players are back in on the 13th June, so shouldn't all outgoing players (Nymabe specifically) be expected at Brockhall on Monday? Is Lenihan even allowed to train with Middlesbrough before his Rovers deal expires - since we're still paying him? I believe players are officially allowed to negotiate with other clubs when in the last month of their contract if in the same country. They can negotiate an exit up to 6 months before if the clubs are abroad (I think this would also apply to Scotland and the Welsh teams barring those which play in England). I guess Rovers could in theory demand Nyambe and Lenihan train with us until the end of their deals expire but I would guess they probably wouldn't expect them to do so. If players don't agree a new deal with any club after their contracts have expired then they also get one month's salary from the PFA to help them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV Blue Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Living in Granada or Blackburn ? Let me think about that for a millisecond. Could be wrong but I believe his wife is a scouser so might not be that simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbitro Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Under normal circumstances and primarily with Lenihan going I wouldn't want to sell another centre half but given his wages (rumoured to be in the top three earners) and awful injury record I would sell him. We just can't rely on him to stay injury free. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 59 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Don’t think a Rovers player has lived in Blackburn since Alan Irvine lived near me at Pleckgate in about 1990… Granada or anywhere really. My wife would move us there tomorrow if I agreed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, arbitro said: Under normal circumstances and primarily with Lenihan going I wouldn't want to sell another centre half but given his wages (rumoured to be in the top three earners) and awful injury record I would sell him. We just can't rely on him to stay injury free. When he’s fit he’s the best centre half at the club. He doesn’t make the mistakes that Lenihan does. Having said that given his previous record you can’t rely on him at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverholmes Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) I think it would be a big surprise if any club actually paid for Ayala. I think it probably will be more likely that he'd negotiate a release and go on a free - that's if the rumours are true, which we don't know. If a bid did come in, there really should be little hesitation, I think. We'd need to bring in a experienced CB anyway, as most of our defenders are lacking experience. On a different note, I saw that Rich Sharpe in the LET online, discussing Jacob Davenport and his potential move to Aberdeen stated: "The 23-year-old managed only 36 appearances across an injury-hit stay with Rovers, and didn’t feature at all in 2022." I think that's possibly inaccurate, as, from my memory, Davenport wasn't injured so often but just overlooked by Mowbray. I could be wrong. Edited June 10, 2022 by riverholmes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeftWinger Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: I would let him and look to bring someone who will be available for majority of the season Could leave Rovers with an interesting decision 😂 Like which taxi firm we are sending him to the airport with. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller11 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Armchair supporter supremo said: I think it's the best time to be getting rid of dead wood and any player that isn't fully common to the club. New dof New head coach very soon🤞 Hopefully also a couple of new additions to the coaching staff Fresh start and nfresh ideas all around. The real deadwood are our disinterested owners 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDom Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: Living in Granada or Blackburn ? Let me think about that for a millisecond. Downtown Baghdad or Blackburn probably comes to a similar conclusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair supporter supremo Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Miller11 said: The real deadwood are our disinterested owners And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilesinner Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 32 minutes ago, LeftWinger said: Could leave Rovers with an interesting decision 😂 Like which taxi firm we are sending him to the airport with. Hands down our best defender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Ayala is a class defender at this level but i'd say it'll be near impossible to get 10 straight starts out of him. Given age and wages as well if there is an opportunity to let him go without having to pay him up it's probably best. However on the back of Lenihen going and no JPVH i'm really beginning to get concerned about this coming season. This new DoF and incoming whomever better have some solid defensive ideas and good contacts. Because they'll have nee brass. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted June 10, 2022 Moderation Lead Share Posted June 10, 2022 55 minutes ago, riverholmes said: I think it would be a big surprise if any club actually paid for Ayala. I think it probably will be more likely that he'd negotiate a release and go on a free - that's if the rumours are true, which we don't know. If a bid did come in, there really should be little hesitation, I think. We'd need to bring in a experienced CB anyway, as most of our defenders are lacking experience. On a different note, I saw that Rich Sharpe in the LET online, discussing Jacob Davenport and his potential move to Aberdeen stated: "The 23-year-old managed only 36 appearances across an injury-hit stay with Rovers, and didn’t feature at all in 2022." I think that's possibly inaccurate, as, from my memory, Davenport wasn't injured so often but just overlooked by Mowbray. I could be wrong. Bit of both, I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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