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23 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

Dack will score more in a season than BB, SG, Elliot & Rothwell put together. First name on the team sheet very week. 

How Mogga adjusts his team to accommodate him is the interesting bit. Maybe we will go 4-2-3-1 again but with Dack a bit deeper than he used to play?

                

That's the way I see it , same formation as now with Dack the most advanced of the midfield three. Could do with his timed arrivals in the box and finishing, no other player is offering us this.

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Fair point Chaddy , think JB summed it up well on twitter  Link   Imagine the negotiations between Venkys and Levy. Insane. Levy: We will give you 10m. 2m upfront, 8m when we win the le

The last deal he signed was ridiculous from the clubs point of view. Nothing in there to protect us given the length of the deal. We really need to tie him down to a 4 year deal. Allow a release

Fair enough, if you've got a problem with his off the field antics and the celebrity nature of his girlfriend, I think a lot of people are re-writing history about Dack here. Barring a couple of

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11 minutes ago, slowmo said:

That's the way I see it , same formation as now with Dack the most advanced of the midfield three. Could do with his timed arrivals in the box and finishing, no other player is offering us this.

Its all about covering the pitch effectively though, the 433 has been at its best with Rothwell and Holtby either side of Johnson as they cover loads of ground. When you only have 3 I'm the middle your workrate needs to be exceptional and they have provided that.

When we switched to two sitters with Evans and Trybull and Buckley in the hole the 433 for a game or two the formation lost its dynanism as the two sitters just didn't cover the ground. Midfield just got bypassed. Think the same sort of thing could happen with Dack if we try and put him in the hole. Suddenly you need two sitters and it messes with the balance.

Reckon if Dack does play in the midfield it will probably be a straight swap for Holtby. Rothwell is just so good carrying the ball from deep you can't really drop him. Shame though as Holtby is class. And then also we've got to find somewhere for Travis to fit in.... Obviously could drop Johnson but he has been excellent.

When everyone's fit we have really good midfield and attacking options for this level... It's been a long time since we've been able to say that. Just need the injury list to be less ludicrous.....

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                      Kaminski

Nyambe   Lenihan   Ayala   Douglas

                 Rothwell  Travis

       Elliot          Dack        Brereton

                      Armstrong

 

Maybe Johnson over Rothwell if we are against a better side.  

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48 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

                      Kaminski

Nyambe   Lenihan   Ayala   Douglas

                 Rothwell  Travis

       Elliot          Dack        Brereton

                      Armstrong

 

Maybe Johnson over Rothwell if we are against a better side.  

Rothwell tough enough to play there?  I don't want to be over-cautious but that side looks too attacking for me!

Shudder to think of TM" reaction! 

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1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

                      Kaminski

Nyambe   Lenihan   Ayala   Douglas

                 Rothwell  Travis

       Elliot          Dack        Brereton

                      Armstrong

 

Maybe Johnson over Rothwell if we are against a better side.  

That is a team, can't wait for Dacky to be back ?

If we can keep everyone fit/Covid free, and Mowbray completely changes his ethos and vastly improves his managerial capability, we may have a shot at the play-offs. 

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You have to laugh - all the different formations to accommodate Dack - and TM is accused of being the tinkerman ?

How (and if) we accommodate Dack into the first team is likely to have a significant  impact on the season. 

One thing is certain - having him as an option on the bench when after a goal is better than anything we currently have.

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14 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

You need more than one player who can put a tackle in beyond the back four. If you don't the opposition can easily isolate them and get them an early card. Then you have problems.

Liverpool played with Henderson and Wijnaldum in midfield against City - with Jota, Firmino, Salah and Mane in front of them. I'm not saying we have the same standard of players as those 6, but at the same time, we're not up against Man City.

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Just now, roversfan99 said:

Exactly, Liverpool had both Wijnaldum and Henderson, both of whom are very responsible and selfless players. Rothwell cant play in a central 2.

I wouldn't exactly call Wijnaldum a tackler though.

According to the Premier League website:

Played 187

Tackles 205

Tackle success 67%

 

Compared to Rothwell last season

Starts 13 (+ 20 sub appearances) (1747 minutes on the pitch)

Tackles 37

Tackle success 76%

 

So Rothwell actually attempts and wins more tackles than Wijnaldum.

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3 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

I wouldn't exactly call Wijnaldum a tackler though.

According to the Premier League website:

Played 187

Tackles 205

Tackle success 67%

 

Compared to Rothwell last season

Starts 13 (+ 20 sub appearances) (1747 minutes on the pitch)

Tackles 37

Tackle success 76%

 

So Rothwell actually attempts and wins more tackles than Wijnaldum.

Liverpool's possession is generally gained through pressing and forcing a mistake. I'm not sure a tackling stat is a good one in their case.

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44 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Rovers have been silent on Dacks first week back in full training apart from a 5 second video of him kicking a ball into an empty net on Monday. Wonder if everything has gone to plan?

That would be telling ...wink !

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18 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Rovers have been silent on Dacks first week back in full training apart from a 5 second video of him kicking a ball into an empty net on Monday. Wonder if everything has gone to plan?

According to the LT, Dack is due to have a run out in a behind closed doors game this week.

Great news and hopefully he won't suffer another set back.

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2 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

According to the LT, Dack is due to have a run out in a behind closed doors game this week.

Great news and hopefully he won't suffer another set back.

Saw that this morning but it seems that all information and interviews through the international break where gathered prior and just staggered out to fill articles. I hope that as you say he has had no setbacks and he can play a game this week.

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1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Saw that this morning but it seems that all information and interviews through the international break where gathered prior and just staggered out to fill articles. I hope that as you say he has had no setbacks and he can play a game this week.

Could be something to do with this deep clean at Ewood. Reducing the amount of people onsite, bit of a break in the players being in. Just a hypothesis though.

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