Adam Wharton

[Upside Down]

24 minutes ago, Mike E said:

I absolutely reckon that JDT/Broughton/Wharton could’ve been a perfect storm for promotion if they’d had the backing Mowbray had.

They gave that plodder 12 million quid to spunk on Brereton and Gallagher alone. 

If they'd have given that kind of money to JDT we'd have finished in the automatics.

[roversfan99]

When we did get £15m to spend on the 3 strikers, the squad we had before was one that had dropped into League 1, having been totally wiped out in the summer leading to relegation. So even that money wasnt enough to build that to a squad to get us promoted.

But had Tomasson been given reasonable money on top of that, and had Venkys not repeatedly denied us the chance of selling and reinvesting, then the platform was there. But Venkys didnt seem arsed about pushing on, quite the opposite.

[roverandout]

Looking at wharton's injury record maybe 18 million wasn't that bad. He's done the same injury he did last season apparently 

[lraC]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

I absolutely reckon that JDT/Broughton/Wharton could’ve been a perfect storm for promotion if they’d had the backing Mowbray had.

The laughable thing is , we know see Suhail stepping in and apparently stopping the Leonard transfer to Posh, as he wanted anther £200k.

From what I am told, Gestede agreed it at £1m and Pasha blocked it.

What a pity he didn't do something similar with Wharton, which is telling, given that he admitted, he didn't know how good, he was going to be. 

[Eddie]

27 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Looking at wharton's injury record maybe 18 million wasn't that bad. He's done the same injury he did last season apparently 

Hopefully, these are just muscle injuries coming from a combination of workload and the fact that he's had a reasonably big growth spurt over the last couple of years. 

But it is definitely concerning. Picking up non-contact injuries every 3/4 months is not a great sign. 

[Crimpshrine]

With Wharton being injured, I doubt he will be sold today. 

However, it will be a disaster if he does go for £150 Million and Rovers get a big pay out. Pasha will be a hero in Venky's eyes and the face washing will continue way into the future with Pasha having complete autonomy.

As a side note, I have heard from  a Wharton family friend that Adam favours a move to Liverpool. 

[Leonard Venkhater]

14 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

With Wharton being injured, I doubt he will be sold today. 

However, it will be a disaster if he does go for £150 Million and Rovers get a big pay out. Pasha will be a hero in Venky's eyes and the face washing will continue way into the future with Pasha having complete autonomy.

As a side note, I have heard from  a Wharton family friend that Adam favours a move to Liverpool. 

It wouldn't surprise me

[jim mk2]

Liverpool won't pay big money for an injury prone player. No one would. Wharton has alot to prove - not least his fitness and the weaknesses in his game before he gets the "big" move he apparently wants. 

[G Somerset Rover]

Whoever he goes to he needs to ensure the pathway to the first 11 is there. At Liverpool he’ll do well to knock out Mac Allister or Gravenberch.

Really hope the injury isn’t as bad as feared - such bad timing for the lad, he would have no doubt got his first competitive outing for England this time out.

[Mattyblue]

The injuries will be the only thing to stop the big move.

[Old Codger]

If he was to sell for £150 million, I'd wager that Suhail Pasha's head might be the next to be nailed on the boardroom wall. I mean, even to a bunch of remote and disengaged halfwits, the sale of an asset for around 13.6% of 'fair market value' might be seen as somewhat cack handed and incompetent... Just think, the Venksters, could have recouped a large slice of their sunk cost in one fell swoop, simply by holding on to a star player, adding a little extra support to a manager clearly capable of cutting it at Premier League level (or at least ambitious enough to take the club to that level again) and waiting for the offers to roll in - who'd a thewt it?

And what stopped this alternative universe scenario playing out? Well, apparently there's this shadowy figure at the club who holds the purse strings, but has the imagination of an ant, the football knowledge of the average foot scraping and the business acumen of Mr Magoo.

So, come on Liverpool, Barcelona, whoever, make this prick stand out for the fraud that he clearly is (NB, Suhail Pasha, not Saint Adam (I bleed blue and white) Wharton. 

PASHA and VENKY FOOTBALL SCOURGE OUT!

[lraC]

6 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

If he was to sell for £150 million, I'd wager that Suhail Pasha's head might be the next to be nailed on the boardroom wall. I mean, even to a bunch of remote and disengaged halfwits, the sale of an asset for around 13.6% of 'fair market value' might be seen as somewhat cack handed and incompetent... Just think, the Venksters, could have recouped a large slice of their sunk cost in one fell swoop, simply by holding on to a star player, adding a little extra support to a manager clearly capable of cutting it at Premier League level (or at least ambitious enough to take the club to that level again) and waiting for the offers to roll in - who'd a thewt it?

And what stopped this alternative universe scenario playing out? Well, apparently there's this shadowy figure at the club who holds the purse strings, but has the imagination of an ant, the football knowledge of the average foot scraping and the business acumen of Mr Magoo.

So, come on Liverpool, Barcelona, whoever, make this prick stand out for the fraud that he clearly is (NB, Suhail Pasha, not Saint Adam (I bleed blue and white) Wharton. 

PASHA and VENKY FOOTBALL SCOURGE OUT!

Quote what Suhail said in the real version of the FF Minutes. "We did not know he would be that good" and send a few hundred copies to VH headquarters advising that Suhail's lack of judgement on players, (which is a fundamental part of his job) is costing them millions.

Pasha out. 

[K-Hod]

49 minutes ago, lraC said:

Quote what Suhail said in the real version of the FF Minutes. "We did not know he would be that good" and send a few hundred copies to VH headquarters advising that Suhail's lack of judgement on players, (which is a fundamental part of his job) is costing them millions.

Pasha out. 

To be fair, as much as it shocked me at the time in the flesh, I can believe it on reflection.
He knows feck all about anything else.

[KentExile]

2 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Liverpool won't pay big money for an injury prone player. No one would. Wharton has alot to prove - not least his fitness and the weaknesses in his game before he gets the "big" move he apparently wants. 

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/liverpool-agree-british-record-ps125m-fee-isak

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alexander-isak/verletzungen/spieler/349066

Season	Injury	from	until	Days	Games missed
24/25	Groin injury	February 25, 2025	01.03.2025	5 days	1
24/25	Hamstring injury	January 11, 2025	January 14, 2025	4 days	1
24/25	Broken toe	September 15, 2024	October 18, 2024	34 days	7
23/24	Groin injury	January 30, 2024	February 23, 2024	25 days	4
23/24	Groin injury	October 25, 2023	November 24, 2023	31 days	8
22/23	Thigh problems	20.09.2022	January 4, 2023	107 days	18
21/22	Hamstring injury	20.09.2021	05.10.2021	16 days	4
21/22	Knee problems	10.08.2021	21.08.2021	12 days	1
18/19	Arm injury	December 21, 2018	January 19, 2019	30 days	4
18/19	Shoulder injury	November 24, 2018	December 11, 2018	18 days	5
18/19	Ill	November 10, 2018	November 15, 2018	6 days	1
18/19	bruise	October 24, 2018	October 27, 2018	4 days	2
18/19	Shin bruise	29.09.2018	October 6, 2018	8 days	3
17/18	Knee problems	November 2, 2017	December 4, 2017	33 days	8
16/17	Thigh problems	February 27, 2017	March 2, 2017	4 days

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[47er]

3 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

It wouldn't surprise me

Yea he'll probably watch games at Ewood while he's injured!

[RV Blue]

Looked like his groin which is a massive concern considering his history

[alcd]

4 hours ago, roverandout said:

Looking at wharton's injury record maybe 18 million wasn't that bad. He's done the same injury he did last season apparently 

He was sidelined here by a groin injury. Looks like he has a significant weakness there. It could well sink any prospect of a huge transfer fee any time soon. 

[jim mk2]

2 hours ago, KentExile said:

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/liverpool-agree-british-record-ps125m-fee-isak

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/alexander-isak/verletzungen/spieler/349066

Season	Injury	from	until	Days	Games missed
24/25	Groin injury	February 25, 2025	01.03.2025	5 days	1
24/25	Hamstring injury	January 11, 2025	January 14, 2025	4 days	1
24/25	Broken toe	September 15, 2024	October 18, 2024	34 days	7
23/24	Groin injury	January 30, 2024	February 23, 2024	25 days	4
23/24	Groin injury	October 25, 2023	November 24, 2023	31 days	8
22/23	Thigh problems	20.09.2022	January 4, 2023	107 days	18
21/22	Hamstring injury	20.09.2021	05.10.2021	16 days	4
21/22	Knee problems	10.08.2021	21.08.2021	12 days	1
18/19	Arm injury	December 21, 2018	January 19, 2019	30 days	4
18/19	Shoulder injury	November 24, 2018	December 11, 2018	18 days	5
18/19	Ill	November 10, 2018	November 15, 2018	6 days	1
18/19	bruise	October 24, 2018	October 27, 2018	4 days	2
18/19	Shin bruise	29.09.2018	October 6, 2018	8 days	3
17/18	Knee problems	November 2, 2017	December 4, 2017	33 days	8
16/17	Thigh problems	February 27, 2017	March 2, 2017	4 days

Some serious problems in 2023-24 but mostly the usual bumps and scrapes over an 8 -year pro career

Isak's a special player and although Rovers fans like to think so Wharton isn't at the same level. Would Liverpool take a big money risk on him? I don't think so