rigger Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 2 minutes ago, lraC said: How much did we get for Raya in the end, excluding the £5m we seem to be due at some point in the not too distant future? Not enough. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lucimo Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 12 hours ago, AllRoverAsia said: Well, he pulled the rabbit out of the hat today! I didn't see the game so can't offer opinion of us or Sunderland but everything I've read and seen, which is now quite a bit, says we were good and they were very very shite. Home to Southampton is a much bigger test. A draw would be ok but a win makes us more or less ok whilst screwing Martin. What could be better than that I think it's probably fair to say that Martin was screwed last night in injury time. Too far off the automatic spots now and well clear of 7th so it's the play offs for them. Hopefully they take their foot off the gas for this weekend and rest a couple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewood Ace Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 The McFadzean red card was probably the best thing that happened to him. It meant abandoning the 5 at the back which going all the way back to when Mowbray tried it just does not suit us . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 When Mowbray played it we went on a long winning run. That did suit us as it felt like the players knew what they were doing. When Eustace did it we looked inept. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 7 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: When Mowbray played it we went on a long winning run. That did suit us as it felt like the players knew what they were doing. When Eustace did it we looked inept. Then other teams sussed us out - Mowbray had no plan “ B “ - and the season just fell away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbitro Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, roversfan99 said: When Mowbray played it we went on a long winning run. That did suit us as it felt like the players knew what they were doing. When Eustace did it we looked inept. It did and was a big part of that winning run. However Mowbray changed to that after the Fulham debacle when we shipped seven. If I remember correctly the next game was against Sheffield United and despite conceding an early goal we were solid defensively. Van Hecke came back after his suspension and slotted in with Lenihan and Wharton. Hyam seems really uncomfortable in a three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admiral Nelsen Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, arbitro said: It did and was a big part of that winning run. However Mowbray changed to that after the Fulham debacle when we shipped seven. If I remember correctly the next game was against Sheffield United and despite conceding an early goal we were solid defensively. Van Hecke came back after his suspension and slotted in with Lenihan and Wharton. Hyam seems really uncomfortable in a three. I think the thing which meant three at the back worked under Mowbray was at least as much about the pace of Khadra, Brereton and Rothwell than it was about the defenders. Eustace doesn't have that to rely on sadly. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aletheia Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Van Hecke. Think i've raised it before -the issue of the quality of loans which has declined. Never liked Mowbray as a manager but he did seem to get some good loans. Tosin, Elliot etc Is that: down to cash down to Mowbray's network -agents/personal contacts being better than present incumbents the dysfuntion at Rovers is so well known that we are a last resort Edited April 2 by aletheia 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled in Toronto Mk2 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 JDT was very employable, wanted to go places quick, knew - and let be known - who wasn’t up to it, and wasn’t afraid of getting fired. Eustace was on the scrap heap, grateful to get another gig, is delighted to not be managing complete donkeys, and will cling on by his fingertips no matter the indignities. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_B Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 4 hours ago, aletheia said: Van Hecke. Think i've raised it before -the issue of the quality of loans which has declined. Never liked Mowbray as a manager but he did seem to get some good loans. Tosin, Elliot etc Is that: down to cash down to Mowbray's network -agents/personal contacts being better than present incumbents the dysfuntion at Rovers is so well known that we are a last resort To be honest, i think those 3 loans fail into the good as it gets category. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 8 hours ago, Ewood Ace said: The McFadzean red card was probably the best thing that happened to him. It meant abandoning the 5 at the back which going all the way back to when Mowbray tried it just does not suit us . We had both McFadzean and Carter on the bench against Sunderland. I think we're in a better place defensively now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 minutes ago, 47er said: We had both McFadzean and Carter on the bench against Sunderland. I think we're in a better place defensively now. We look a lot better with four at the back and with Tronstad back in the team. Think McFadzean might not play for us again if we avoid injuries/suspensions for Hyam, Wharton and Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Torgeir said: We look a lot better with four at the back and with Tronstad back in the team. Think McFadzean might not play for us again if we avoid injuries/suspensions for Hyam, Wharton and Carter. Possibly true but we're not down to the bare bones like we were. That's my point. That was a stronger starting line-up and a stronger bench than we've had for a while. Edited April 2 by 47er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogerb Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 Being able to play virtually the first choice eleven with a stronger bench to support makes a lot of difference. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 5 hours ago, aletheia said: Van Hecke. Think i've raised it before -the issue of the quality of loans which has declined. Never liked Mowbray as a manager but he did seem to get some good loans. Tosin, Elliot etc Is that: down to cash down to Mowbray's network -agents/personal contacts being better than present incumbents the dysfuntion at Rovers is so well known that we are a last resort Cash will play a part plus Mowbrays steady hand but we'll have paid bigger loan fees or wage contributions back then. Now though we have Waggot unchecked by any manager controlling him just picking up the phone and committing 6 month 20k a week deal for a player with a 9 out of 10 chance of getting re-injured. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreams of 1995 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 1 hour ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said: JDT was very employable, wanted to go places quick, knew - and let be known - who wasn’t up to it, and wasn’t afraid of getting fired. Eustace was on the scrap heap, grateful to get another gig, is delighted to not be managing complete donkeys, and will cling on by his fingertips no matter the indignities. You couldn't have it more wrong about Eustace But, it isn't a theme to know what you are talking about when it comes to John Eustace to be fair I can't remember a manager getting as much undue stick on here than this bloke. It borders on stupid to be fair. Eustace had a few job offers before going with Rovers. He wanted this gig 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 To be fair, most of the stick was because he hadnt won a game prior to yesterday. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllRoverAsia Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 12 hours ago, Lucimo said: I think it's probably fair to say that Martin was screwed last night in injury time. Too far off the automatic spots now and well clear of 7th so it's the play offs for them. Hopefully they take their foot off the gas for this weekend and rest a couple. Southampton will want to ensure that they retain 4th spot to get ground advantage in the 2nd leg of the playoff v the team that finishes 5th. They have games in hand on the teams above them but I agree that their chances of an automatic place have all but gone. They will be hurting after Ipswich, a game they should have won and I expect them to come to Ewood looking for a win. I hope so, it will leave them more open to our forays forward. It should be a good game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex l Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 12 hours ago, aletheia said: Van Hecke. Think i've raised it before -the issue of the quality of loans which has declined. Never liked Mowbray as a manager but he did seem to get some good loans. Tosin, Elliot etc Is that: down to cash down to Mowbray's network -agents/personal contacts being better than present incumbents the dysfuntion at Rovers is so well known that we are a last resort Don't disagree he got some good loans but also some absolute duds or players who were quite poor for us: Zeefuik, Giles, Poveda, Clarkson, Douglas, Branthwaite (though started off ok), Palmer, Harper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex l Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24226354.eustace-makes-request-negative-energy-admission/ I get his point but the way it is reported, he doesn't endear himself to those who have concerns with the bigger picture at the club, rather than just the result on match day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 A lot of the fanbase however don’t have any other Rovers thoughts apart from match day so it will go down a treat with plenty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsonblue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Totally agree with Eustace on this point. The most important thing for the club this season is staying in the Championship. The last three games have shown that the players are more than capable of doing that. With the new TV contract and increased revenue from that from next season it's vital to stay in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, 47er said: Possibly true but we're not down to the bare bones like we were. That's my point. That was a stronger starting line-up and a stronger bench than we've had for a while. Definitely. Agree with both your posts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 8 hours ago, Dreams of 1995 said: You couldn't have it more wrong about Eustace But, it isn't a theme to know what you are talking about when it comes to John Eustace to be fair I can't remember a manager getting as much undue stick on here than this bloke. It borders on stupid to be fair. Eustace had a few job offers before going with Rovers. He wanted this gig It's not about Eustace at this point, it's about the strained relationship between the club and the fans and he happens to be in the crossfire. With good results people will start forgetting again and the atmosphere will change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 Who disagrees what the fans should get behind the side? And they do, good fans here regardless of what a lot of fools on social media/the LT comments say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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