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4 hours ago, dingles staying down 4ever said:

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Would you really have the likes of CB we've got ahead of Dann and Duffy? Now if you are talking wastes of space.

Dann was a shithouse and Duffy couldn’t head a ball in the intended direction, never seen a player so bad from set pieces. Lenihan is streets ahead of both of them 

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21 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Holtby isn't fit to lace Tugay's boots. That's a tad harsh. I just meant in terms of an ability and calmness on the ball, there are similarities there, albeit Tugay was masterful.

As for Rothwell - he frightens teams when he runs past players from central positions. I don't think he has the pace (or the crossing ability) to consistently hurt teams when played out wide. Hence why he's inconsistent. If we're keeping him, it needs to be as part of the midfield three with Travis (and I guess Dack in the more advanced position, although I think Rothwell could play there too). Otherwise he's just a talented player shoehorned out wide. Rothwell has weaknesses, but lack of pace isn't one of them. His ability to run with the ball at speed is frightening for defenders, but he deffo needs to improve his end product and I agree is not an out & out winger.

I keep on hearing about Buckley's talent, but all I see is a frail man that Championship defenders bully. He's going to have to speed up his processes to overcome that, because I doubt he's got the frame to bulk up without losing pace. Does he have pace anyway? I don't think so, and like others have said a lack of pace & strength hasn't stopped other players succeeding in the game (Tugay being one in his early days, Scott Sellars, Gordon Cowans another, just 3 ex-Rovers players without pace or bulk who did very well for us).

 

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8 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Dann was a shithouse and Duffy couldn’t head a ball in the intended direction, never seen a player so bad from set pieces. Lenihan is streets ahead of both of them 

Dann has played 10 seasons in the Premiership under managers such as Sam Allardyce, Alan Pardew & Roy Hodgson whereas at the age of 26 Lenihan has never played above the mid table of the Championship.

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6 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Dann has played 10 seasons in the Premiership under managers such as Sam Allardyce, Alan Pardew & Roy Hodgson whereas at the age of 26 Lenihan has never played above the mid table of the Championship.

Dann was and is absolute garbage. Plenty of donkeys have played in the Premier League. And to claim that someone playing under that clown Pardew shows his quality is a daft argument.

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Third or fourth time I’ve heard Joe Rankin-Costello referred to as not very potent with his attacking. It’s his main bloody deal. Carried our youth team at times in the last four years. Missed him a lot when injured. He can score goals, pick some good passes. He’s been a victim of a defensive position I think.

Check out his goal vs Burnley here. 

 

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30 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Dann was a shithouse and Duffy couldn’t head a ball in the intended direction, never seen a player so bad from set pieces. Lenihan is streets ahead of both of them 

Yet the min he went to Brighton he stated heading them in the right end.

To be fair he made a decent alehouse type Prem defender. Agree though a total s###house of a guy. Morals in the sewer.

Both were plonked in here to get fit get games and increase in value. Intention a quick stepping stone.

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Just now, JoeH said:

Third or fourth time I’ve heard Joe Rankin-Costello referred to as not very potent with his attacking. It’s his main bloody deal. Carried our youth team at times in the last four years. Missed him a lot when injured. He can score goals, pick some good passes. He’s been a victim of a defensive position I think.

I think Carried our youth team is abit over the top there Joe but he is one thats will became a regular in the team over the coming seasons. 

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Just now, JoeH said:

Third or fourth time I’ve heard Joe Rankin-Costello referred to as not very potent with his attacking. It’s his main bloody deal. Carried our youth team at times in the last four years. Missed him a lot when injured. He can score goals, pick some good passes. He’s been a victim of a defensive position I think.

Check out his goal vs Burnley here. 

 

I'll check out any goal against Burnley! 

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2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I think Carried our youth team is abit over the top there Joe but he is one thats will became a regular in the team over the coming seasons. 

I don’t think it’s over the top at all. Whilst a big injury in the middle should be considered, for over four years he’s been instrumental for our Under 23’s. 

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Just now, JoeH said:

I don’t think it’s over the top at all. Whilst a big injury in the middle should be considered, for over four years he’s been instrumental for our Under 23’s. 

He;s has been a good player for the under 23 over the years. granted, 

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Just now, Bohinen 22 said:

Dann was and is absolute garbage. Plenty of donkeys have played in the Premier League. And to claim that someone playing under that clown Pardew shows his quality is a daft argument.

It's about levels though isn't it Dann's level is premier league and he is a decent premier league centre back. You don't play 10 seasons in the Premiership unless you have something about you. Sadly we didn't see the best of him a Rovers but I think that was due to the players surrounding him.

As for Pardew not sure why you call him a clown, he managed for a long time in the top flight and achieved multiple top half finishes including finishing as high as 5th once. So he must know something about the league.

 

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7 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Yet the min he went to Brighton he stated heading them in the right end.

To be fair he made a decent alehouse type Prem defender. Agree though a total s###house of a guy. Morals in the sewer.

Both were plonked in here to get fit get games and increase in value. Intention a quick stepping stone.

Danns value decreased surely .....

I don't think either player wanted to play for us , though ...

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Just now, Waggy76 said:

Danns value decreased surely .....

I don't think either player wanted to play for us , though ...

Think they just about covered what they'd paid for him in the end.

About 3.5 million not the 7 million that gets banded about.

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22 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Third or fourth time I’ve heard Joe Rankin-Costello referred to as not very potent with his attacking. It’s his main bloody deal. Carried our youth team at times in the last four years. Missed him a lot when injured. He can score goals, pick some good passes. He’s been a victim of a defensive position I think.

Check out his goal vs Burnley here. 

 

Until he does it for the first team it is pretty irrelevant, although as you said playing him at full back wont help.

I havent seen much in his appearances to make me excited, seems quite slow, at times fairly hesitant and nothing special technically. But he needs to play out wide more.

My fear for him is that Mowbray sees him as a utility player rather than playing him in his natural position. With no one nailing down the wide spot he needs to be played there more often.

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51 minutes ago, pick32 said:

Dann was a shithouse and Duffy couldn’t head a ball in the intended direction, never seen a player so bad from set pieces. Lenihan is streets ahead of both of them 

Before he left in very poor circumstances, many on here used to sing his praises and even love his dad's tweets. Until the end, he was a lot better player than is stated here. If all are fit which would get in the Eire side......Duffy, Lenihan or Williams. I suspect we all know the answer but because he left us in very terrible circumstances many will not admit it.

Dann was poor here though.

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Duffy header wide is probably the most Tweeted thing by rovers official account 

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3 hours ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

I think Butterworth and JRC are better than OK. Agree that Buckley looks lightweight but you can tell he's a talented footballer. I haven't seen Vale yet but Mowbray raves about him so he's another one. We won't be far off a 1st team of Academy Grads soon. 

I agree, all those gave potential as good Championship players. JRC is an intelligent footballer who can play any where. Played right wing-back for the U-23 lately. Very involved forward and scored a few as well. Suprisingly good in the air. 

Butterworth is very sharp. Direct, Great left foot, flair, bit arrogant and greedy. Have struggled with a Long term back injury all season. Not sure what the status is. Would've been involved if not according to Mowbray. 

Massive fan of Buckley, think he has the most potential of the lot. Has a lot of fans among senior players and Staff. Can create, score, pass and go past People. Great work-rate too. However probably the one Who needs most time to adapt. Needs to fill out a bit, but more important 1 second quick er decision making and finding pocket of space. Good signs towards the end of season. 

Jack Vale is another favorite of mine. Good allround striker with a bit of everything. Led the line well for the U-23 although he's not the biggest. Good balance, decent pace and can go past a player. Appearantly the New nutmeg king in Dacks absense according to Bennett. Might need a loan. 

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1 hour ago, JoeH said:

Third or fourth time I’ve heard Joe Rankin-Costello referred to as not very potent with his attacking. It’s his main bloody deal. Carried our youth team at times in the last four years. Missed him a lot when injured. He can score goals, pick some good passes. He’s been a victim of a defensive position I think.

Check out his goal vs Burnley here. 

 

I'm not sure what a highlight of a goal for our U23s proves. I could post a video of Derrick Williams pinging in a goal for our first team. It doesn't make Williams a potent attacker. 

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Yes, Duffy played abysmally in one game in a Rovers shirt. But, Dann, Duffy, Hanley, all were excellent players at Championship level, and have proven their worth in PL. Trashing them today makes no sense, obviously all are on backside of their careers now.  

Dann & Hanley were with Rovers when I first became a fan; Dann scored the 1st Rovers goal I ever saw on TV, in FA Cup match at Ewood vs ManCity. 

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2 hours ago, JoeH said:

I don’t think it’s over the top at all. Whilst a big injury in the middle should be considered, for over four years he’s been instrumental for our Under 23’s. 

He could carry them all he wants.  That's boys football and has no real relation to mens championship top level football...lets be fair, bottom of premier league is similar to top of the championship,  so we are looking to operate at that level, a right footed left back is no good for me.

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Denis Irwin, Javier Zanetti and Paulo Maldini all played a considerable number of games as right footed left backs, regarded as at least world class and with the latter 2 I'd say genuine legends of the game. Not a problem having a left back be right footed as long as a)they know how to effectively play the position and b) have a moderate left foot

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13 minutes ago, alex l said:

Denis Irwin, Javier Zanetti and Paulo Maldini all played a considerable number of games as right footed left backs, regarded as at least world class and with the latter 2 I'd say genuine legends of the game. Not a problem having a left back be right footed as long as a)they know how to effectively play the position and b) have a moderate left foot

Not forgetting one of our most notable players this century was a right-footed left midfielder.

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A young lad being criticised because he's been thrown in to the first team, acquitted himself well in a unfamiliar position and has shown obvious potential.

'Yeah, but, he only scored a great goal in the U23's so that proves nothing'  FFS!

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Lenihan is a standard Championship centre half, and fair play to him as he’s converted himself to be more than adequate there.

But he obviously isn’t better than PL regulars or he’d be at least in with a shout of getting a move there.

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1 hour ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

A young lad being criticised because he's been thrown in to the first team, acquitted himself well in a unfamiliar position and has shown obvious potential.

'Yeah, but, he only scored a great goal in the U23's so that proves nothing'  FFS!

Goals were the same size in both standards of football last time I checked Hoochie. If that had Ederson in goal it wasn’t being saved. Terrific goal and the technique to bend it out and then in was fantastic. 
 

Alas, our resident expert considers him hesitant and nothing special technically though. Thank fuck he isn’t our scout because his ability to spot a player is about as non-existent as the hesitancy in JRCs game.

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