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Lenihan isn’t all he is cracked up to be, there Iv said it

What he’s put in a great shift. Head and shoulders above some of that out there. I’ll accept criticism where it’s due. You only get a foul if you have the ball. So if you mean he’s been involved in the right areas then yeah your right.

Hopefully that will be the last we see of Evans in a Rovers shirt. He's been stealing a living of this club for 7 years.

Still confusing seeing people post line ups with Gallagher on the wing. Unless you’re trying to predict what Mowbray May do, you must have seen that it simply doesn’t work by now?

Desperately disappointing to lose tonight, however well we may have played. The bottom line though, 6 games, 3 defeats and 2 defeats in a row. Whatever the situation, we need to turn things around and quickly. That includes picking our best players and not relying on players who have let us down time and again any more.

We lost 3-1. Years of watching football has taught me that playing well and losing is a very bad sign. Performances don’t win games but tactical nous does. We will never get anywhere under this manager

Arma's scored more than almost anyone in the football league in 2020. Some people on here's memories/judgment is laughable.

Evans off. Hopefully thats the last we see of him. Abysmal.

This lad Elliott is quality, into everything we do.

Might not be a popular opinion and don’t get me wrong I do like the guy. He gave me his shirt in Austria before he didn’t pay the taxi driver and ended up in the nick but he did come across as a bit of a man child. We’re about the same age but he didn’t seem very professional. Him and dacky might have enjoyed nights out but I wasn’t enjoying working overtime and travelling for hours to watch his lethargic overweight ass struggle as Southend battered us. The night in Manchester after we got promoted he talked like the season was done . There was a league title at stake plus other little comments and his attitude confirmed the holiday mentality with the we best do abit. He was a good player for us as is Dack and I’m sure they arnt the only ones but it just annoys me when they have all summer to have fun with there massive bank balances and can’t be 100 % committed during the season. The start to the league one campaign was abysmal and there coming in with the same body fat as me and playing with hangovers. I didnt think he came across well at all

A classic case of blinding optimism supplanting reality.

Play like that and not win...What a load of tosh. We just cant win games of football regularly enough to win promotion....Nothing but another wer going for the top 6 but in reality 14th or 15th

14th -as near to the bottom 3 as the top 6. The Mowbray equalibrium. At least we got in the top 6 once this year!

But we all know he'll take off Elliott and Holtby.

2 years at Barrow on loan?

Just finished listening to this, and it reaffirms to me exactly why I won't be kissing Venky's feet after a few good years under Mowbray. The fact Coyle was even appointed, let alone kept on for so long is an absolute disgrace, and just shows to me that we are always one decision away from everything collapsing again.

The good managers sign and select players who make minimal mistakes and optimise opportunities. Mowbray signs them, sells them, selects them, motivates them and organises them and therefore the buck well and truly stops with him.

With Trybull looking the type to sit in the holding role and spread the ball, Holtby a bit further forward doing what he does and then Rothwell driving on. That midfield three will be our best by a long stretch.

Honestly admire your optimism, Paul, but you sound very much like Mowbray! ‘Play like that every week and we’ll be there or thereabouts.’ Firstly, we still lost, and second, we won’t play like that every week - see Cardiff and Forest.

Pretty impressed by what I've seen and I'm excited about the season. That isn't sarcasm!

In reality, the game was probably lost when he selected Evans and Johnson together again. The new Evans and Smallwood. We look to have some decent players, just need the manager to draw it all together. Only six games in and in a Mowbray death spiral already. Probably last a couple more games then when it looks like we'll have to sack him we'll unexpectedly pull out a couple of wins.

Evans will play League 1 football once he is done with us.

im`e duly humbled by big bens first half performance,he`s been our best player

Mowbray's hopeless. When will fans realise we're going nowhere as long as he's at the club?

Those predicting a high scoring game - I just cannot see it. They’ve scored 3 and conceded just the once in 6 games. Going to be a tough nut to crack at the back.

I can think of lots of candidates from the Decade of Decay who could be used as the Guy. Or maybe the lot of them.

I just want to see him/us have a real go at it. Said the same last season but even more so now they've nothing to lose, if you're going to land in midtable anyway at least do so after trying to get into the top 6 not just trying to tread water and hope for a marginal gain. If we fall short we fall short but enough of the self preservation stuff please.

I genuinely believe we have the squad to get playoffs this season. I just think with Mowbray in charge we cannot possibly get there.

Not getting why anyone thought that was a terrific performance or we dominated play at all. Yes, you could argue we were a bit unlucky to go in at HT 2-1 down but I thought we were really disappointing second half, especially after going 3-1 down and only a really good save from Kaminsky and Watford making a hash of a simple chance prevented a 5-1 defeat. Even if Armstrong had scored the soft penalty we were gifted we'd still have been 2-3 down! Holtby had a good game, Brereton looked a bit more like the player he did in the first few games and I thought both full backs played quite well. Elliot had a promising first half before fading out of the game completely in the second. Against that our new keeper cost us a goal with an appalling bit of keeping, both centre halves were poor and our big money acquisition in that position has only lasted two and a half games. Evans is an absolute embarrassment to professional football yet the manager keeps picking him (which in general is actually our biggest problem). Armstrong was atrocious, not for the first time this season, and playing with Evans makes Johnson look a poor player. As one or two other posters have said, this squad just don't have a winning mentality and it probably stems from the manager downwards. When Dolan came on he was drawing three Watford players to him so if the rest of the team were that bothered about getting back in the game they'd have been making themselves available to Dolan and then quickly switching play to take advantage of the space created. Instead we couldn't be bothered and left him to try and win a throw. I thought overall it was dire. If that's a good night I'd hate to see a bad one.

That one was Brereton - the player that I keep reading on here offers no goal threat whatsoever It’s not the manager out there missing penalties, or blazing over from 10 yards out, or fluffing 1on1’s, or scoring ridiculous own goals. You could argue that the chances we created showed he set the team up right - he doesn’t tell the players to miss them on purpose you know. Saturday’s performance was poor, devoid of ideas etc. Tonight we had enough good chances to have won 3 games - if you can’t see that, I don’t know what game you’re watching. But then, since we played 4-3-3, and definitely not 3 at the back, maybe you weren’t actually watching the game at all

Why are people genuinely rating that performance? I personally thought it was absolutely horrific. Devoid of ideas, whats all this passing round the back for 90 minutes? Holtby and Elliott only ones with any urgency. Evans absolutely useless. On another note, without Rothwell and some mobility this 3 at the back does not work.

I know a winning mentality when I see one in a team and we haven't had one for years. That's why we keep losing games like tonights game

Trybull should be playing the Tugay role...Evans shouldnt see the side again

Was repeatedly told throughout the night by them 2 tiresome commentators how good we looked, how many chances we had, how the fitness levels look better, how much the ref was to blame (never a penalty for me, Holtby dived although happy to have it) and how we looked the recently Premier League side, and I think a few on here feels similar. Possession stats, new "style of play" but with 2 wins, a draw and 3 losses, im yet to be convinced that it isnt style before substance. We need to win on Saturday. Not one to be satisfied with defeats regardless of the stats or perception about performance, ultimately on another day Watford could argue that with Pedro's Gazza style miss on the stretch and Sarr on the counter at the end, they might think they could have had more. Good to see Brereton score, still needs to anticipate things better and get into the box but some of his work outside it including a few dives after good runs earnt us a few free kicks. Elliott with some bright play and looks to be an exciting talent. Armstrong was really poor, constantly offside, rubbish penalty and ultimately its nights like tonight when you realise how light we are up front, there is no alternative or potential partner. Dolan was totally ineffective off the bench, all step overs and nothing else, should have left Brereton on. God knows what Kaminski was doing for that second goal, terrible goalkeeping and a huge mistake. Did make one good save towards the end. Bell shocking, Douglas had to play there is something wrong if Bielsa's world reknown fitness regime couldnt get him fit enough for a Mowbray team! Lenihan should have done better for the third, Ayala is better than him and made an already bad night worse by limping off. Nyambe was bright going forward. Wharton all over the place as a sub. Holtby was one of our better performers. Mowbray again made the mistake of putting Evans and Johnson the wrong way around and exposing their weakesses. Trybull looked rusty at times but also played a couple of lovely passes and one key interception.

Trybull did more in 15 mins than Evans in his previous 150m. With Evans its like playing with 10men.

Own goal, missed penalty, injury to Ayala - just not our day today. The positive - we dominated in every department against one of the best teams in the division. The negative - domination counts for nothing if we don't get the 3 points. Feel really frustrated tonight, but I'm chalking it up to an unstable team at the minute. Elliott, Trybull, and Douglas all need to come into the first 11 on Saturday.

That’s a ridiculous post after another defeat in which the manager’s weaknesses were exposed again. Onwards and downwards towards the bottom is the truth

We got it tactically right tonight. Dominated a top team from start to finish. The manager can’t make Armstrong miss three top chances and a penalty. He can’t make Lenihan be less cumbersome for their third or take the blame for Lenihans header in the first half which should’ve been finished. Onwards and upwards

come on tony,there is nothing left for you here,time for another challenge

Armstrong needs to get his head out of his arse. Scores a few worldies and people think he’s prem quality. Far from it.

You need to get out more

Jesus its so depressing on here. People cream themselves over Elliott signing but sulk when he plays over Dolan. Bell will be playing because, well look how much football Douglas has played in the past year, he will be starting before Bell before long.

Harsh on Dolan 2 bad games and dropped. Brereton has over 2 years of poor performances yet still starts.

Plus 1.5 million agent fee

Feb 2001 apparently. 1-0, Marcus Bent. The play-off semi final second leg in 1989 felt like a win. 1-1 after extra time after a 0-0 first leg so through on away goals. I won’t mention the final though.

Brereton up top?!? Have people learnt nothing. He's not a goalscorer, he can't hold it up or anything?