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Season Tickets (inc. Renewal Poll)


ST Poll  

180 members have voted

  1. 1. Will you buy a season ticket for 2021/22?

    • Yes - no matter what
      51
    • Yes - depending on personal circumstances
      7
    • No - but I would if Mowbray left
      65
    • No - but for other reasons
      57


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On 25/07/2021 at 19:34, Stuart said:

That’s a real strawman. (Also, I can’t believe your previous post - it’s “only” a QR code - you really need to read up on your history).

Don’t introduce passports at all. Which fans are going to refuse to attend if they aren’t? You are advocating relegating unvaccinated people to second class citizens and you seem to just see them as an expendable minority.

Children won’t have them. Why does an 18yo need a jab (and evidence of such) and their 17yo mate doesn’t? Is the latter less of a risk?

Your arguments are built on sand considering even with a jab and a passport you can still carry and pass on the virus.

If I don’t have a vaccine it doesn’t make any difference to you - as long as you’ve had yours.

I really worry about the direction of the world under Gen Z.

What does generation have to do with this debate? 😄 The people making these decisions aren’t “Gen Z” - not that it makes a difference 

I don’t think the vaccine passports will happen. It seems too intrusive. 
 

 

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On 25/07/2021 at 20:20, rigger said:

If that stopped deaths would that be a bad thing

You can’t stop death, it is a natural part of life, and as the world evolves, causes of death are changing. 

In no way am I saying that drink driving is acceptable, it’s abhorrent, especially when alcohol free lager and gin exist and taste the same, however your point just leads to more open ended options.
 

We can stop deaths from many different things by locking ourselves away for eternity, but what’s the point? I’d rather a shorter life lived, than live until the age of 100 and be bored senseless for the next 75 years. I’m not sure too many would argue against that.

Many scientists & politicians have God complexes, which has resulted in them all wanting to be the ones who change the course of humanity for longer lives, but they completely disregard all other factors involved in living a life, and focus purely on your body having oxygen and blood coursing through your veins.

Sorry for the rant, and not a dig at you, just been building up a while clearly!

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On 25/07/2021 at 21:04, Wheelton Blue said:

Getting the vaccine not only reduces the chances of you getting infected, it also reduces the likelihood of you infecting someone else.

I call that personal responsibility.

These liberal 'I'll do what I want types' can go ahead and do what they want, we live in a democratic society after all. But don't come anywhere near me or my at-risk family, thanks all the same.

Sources please, including the percentage reductions.

Also, you are right, we do live in a democratic society, where people have rights. These are being taken away so as to enforce the governments will onto the people they serve. A will that seems to change every five minutes. Vaccine passports were discussed in March in parliament, and all of the reasons against them remain valid.

Meanwhile, the long term effects of the vaccine are unknown. Everyone who has it is taking a personal risk. The younger you are, the greater that risk is. For these young people the risks may even be greater than the virus itself. We don’t know. This vaccine won’t be fully FDA approved for at least 6 months while data is gathered to ensure safety. Until then how can this be mandated? Blackmailing young people on this basis, and telling them they can’t have a social life, and even higher education, is immoral. Let’s have the safety confirmed and then it’s a different discussion.

This is a very emotive topic but we need to remain objective and be really clear about what is being asked of people and why. Right now the perceived benefits are not factual but based on a climate of fear and a government without an exit strategy who are backed into a corner, and are extorting young people into taking risks which could affect them later in life.

Lest we forget, Thalidomide was once believed to be completely safe…

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On 26/07/2021 at 12:43, Hannoverover said:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107717

 

Uk based study showing that even after 1 shot of either Oxford-AZ or BioNTech-Pfizer, transmission was reduced by 40-50%. It'll be even higher after the 2nd shot.

Interesting. Needs further research though.

However, what I did find interesting was this article. Just the opening paragraph of point 1 is sufficient.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199711133372006

We are heading for a dark place. Threatening students not to be able to get an education if they don’t comply. If that isn’t duress or coercion, I’m not sure what is.

This is the largest medical research programme in history and people are not being allowed to opt out, lest they are punished.

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On 26/07/2021 at 12:15, Stuart said:

Sources please, including the percentage reductions.

Also, you are right, we do live in a democratic society, where people have rights. These are being taken away so as to enforce the governments will onto the people they serve. A will that seems to change every five minutes. Vaccine passports were discussed in March in parliament, and all of the reasons against them remain valid.

Meanwhile, the long term effects of the vaccine are unknown. Everyone who has it is taking a personal risk. The younger you are, the greater that risk is. For these young people the risks may even be greater than the virus itself. We don’t know. This vaccine won’t be fully FDA approved for at least 6 months while data is gathered to ensure safety. Until then how can this be mandated? Blackmailing young people on this basis, and telling them they can’t have a social life, and even higher education, is immoral. Let’s have the safety confirmed and then it’s a different discussion.

This is a very emotive topic but we need to remain objective and be really clear about what is being asked of people and why. Right now the perceived benefits are not factual but based on a climate of fear and a government without an exit strategy who are backed into a corner, and are extorting young people into taking risks which could affect them later in life.

Lest we forget, Thalidomide was once believed to be completely safe…

That doesn't make every scientific breakthrough wrong.

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I see Wigan have announced sales of 6000 season tickets.

I wonder if that will beat our efforts this summer, despite everything and everyone telling me that without Venkys we'd be in a state like them.

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Well ..i think i ve finally found out ONE of the reasons why we ve possibly only sold 3500 ST!

My son has been trying to buy a ST online today ..now that the date had passed for those to save their seat   ..but he gave up and finally rang and actually got through to the Ticket Office.

Explaining to them he wanted to try and buy a seat that he had two seasons ago he was told that the last day for ST renewals (28th July) had been SCRAPPED and extended to Monday 2nd August . The reason given was that many people had tried to renew and save their seats but couldnt either by the Online system (for some reason) or by phone (which im sure anyone who has tried to ring Rovers will know why)!

When asked could he therefore buy one on Tuesday 3rd of August ..he was told no ..they d go on General Sale on Weds 4th August. My son also asked would he have to pick up the ticket by hand at the club because of the short notice and Rovers at home on the Saturday he was told that a paper ticket would be issued because at the moment the club had no plastic ST Cards ??

Soooo a heads up anyone hoping to aquire a ST now after the so called deadline has passed for renewals ..it hasnt and you wont be able to buy until Weds 4th August.  Sorry for the long winded post ! 

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51 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

Well ..i think i ve finally found out ONE of the reasons why we ve possibly only sold 3500 ST!

My son has been trying to buy a ST online today ..now that the date had passed for those to save their seat   ..but he gave up and finally rang and actually got through to the Ticket Office.

Explaining to them he wanted to try and buy a seat that he had two seasons ago he was told that the last day for ST renewals (28th July) had been SCRAPPED and extended to Monday 2nd August . The reason given was that many people had tried to renew and save their seats but couldnt either by the Online system (for some reason) or by phone (which im sure anyone who has tried to ring Rovers will know why)!

When asked could he therefore buy one on Tuesday 3rd of August ..he was told no ..they d go on General Sale on Weds 4th August. My son also asked would he have to pick up the ticket by hand at the club because of the short notice and Rovers at home on the Saturday he was told that a paper ticket would be issued because at the moment the club had no plastic ST Cards ??

Soooo a heads up anyone hoping to aquire a ST now after the so called deadline has passed for renewals ..it hasnt and you wont be able to buy until Weds 4th August.  Sorry for the long winded post ! 

Avoid all this stress and worry - join the boycott!

Away matches are much more fun anyway.

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51 minutes ago, HowieFive0 said:

Well ..i think i ve finally found out ONE of the reasons why we ve possibly only sold 3500 ST!

My son has been trying to buy a ST online today ..now that the date had passed for those to save their seat   ..but he gave up and finally rang and actually got through to the Ticket Office.

Explaining to them he wanted to try and buy a seat that he had two seasons ago he was told that the last day for ST renewals (28th July) had been SCRAPPED and extended to Monday 2nd August . The reason given was that many people had tried to renew and save their seats but couldnt either by the Online system (for some reason) or by phone (which im sure anyone who has tried to ring Rovers will know why)!

When asked could he therefore buy one on Tuesday 3rd of August ..he was told no ..they d go on General Sale on Weds 4th August. My son also asked would he have to pick up the ticket by hand at the club because of the short notice and Rovers at home on the Saturday he was told that a paper ticket would be issued because at the moment the club had no plastic ST Cards ??

Soooo a heads up anyone hoping to aquire a ST now after the so called deadline has passed for renewals ..it hasnt and you wont be able to buy until Weds 4th August.  Sorry for the long winded post ! 

Don't they make such a simple process difficult. I find it incredible that clubs in our locale can shift many more than us and have a slicker operation to do so. Some fans could well be put off by such hassle and just not bother.

It's symptomatic of what Rovers have become.

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Just now, Crimpshrine said:

Avoid all this stress and worry - join the boycott!

Away matches are much more fun anyway.

He does go Away Crimp ..but he wouldn't  mind going to a bloody Home game😂

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6 hours ago, HowieFive0 said:

Well ..i think i ve finally found out ONE of the reasons why we ve possibly only sold 3500 ST!

My son has been trying to buy a ST online today ..now that the date had passed for those to save their seat   ..but he gave up and finally rang and actually got through to the Ticket Office.

Explaining to them he wanted to try and buy a seat that he had two seasons ago he was told that the last day for ST renewals (28th July) had been SCRAPPED and extended to Monday 2nd August . The reason given was that many people had tried to renew and save their seats but couldnt either by the Online system (for some reason) or by phone (which im sure anyone who has tried to ring Rovers will know why)!

When asked could he therefore buy one on Tuesday 3rd of August ..he was told no ..they d go on General Sale on Weds 4th August. My son also asked would he have to pick up the ticket by hand at the club because of the short notice and Rovers at home on the Saturday he was told that a paper ticket would be issued because at the moment the club had no plastic ST Cards ??

Soooo a heads up anyone hoping to aquire a ST now after the so called deadline has passed for renewals ..it hasnt and you wont be able to buy until Weds 4th August.  Sorry for the long winded post ! 

Funnily enough,  my dad rang me yesterday asking me if I could go round & renew online for him (he's 74 & a technophobe). He said he'd been ringing the club since Monday & couldn't get through.  Kept getting a message saying "we'll answer you're call as soon as possible, but we are experiencing a high number of calls" 😅

Looks like Doris must be busy trying to run the entire operation at Ewood on her own!

My dad's comment was "fucking hell, I thought I'd kept ringing old Trafford by mistake!" 🤣

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12 hours ago, windymiller7 said:

Kept getting a message saying "we'll answer you're call as soon as possible, but we are experiencing a high number of calls" 😅!" 🤣

Corporate speak for, “we know we don’t have enough people answering the phones but we don’t give a feck.” 

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Renewed with a heavy heart and no enthusiasm. Reflex transaction. Misguided sense of duty.

I voted that I wouldn't unless Mowbray went. But I lied. Like a shy Tory in a general election opinion poll.

Relegation season written all over it but may as well be relegated using BRFC academy products than those of other clubs. There would be some honour in that at least.

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I received a postcard from Dacky and the lads through the letterbox this morning.

Better late than never but wonder why this is being done 2 days before the extended deadline for renewals.

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4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I received a postcard from Dacky and the lads through the letterbox this morning.

Better late than never but wonder why this is being done 2 days before the extended deadline for renewals.

Because even the club, didn't expect the renewal of season tickets to be as bad as it is.

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18 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I received a postcard from Dacky and the lads through the letterbox this morning.

Better late than never but wonder why this is being done 2 days before the extended deadline for renewals.

Just received mine too. 

Maybe the Postcards were late back from the printers so they had to extend the deadline ..

(yes ..i can be naive at times!)

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That message from ‘Dack’ via email is so shoddy. Even the ‘handwriting style’ font can’t save it. Rushed out in panic with a week to go, shades of ‘the £10k raffle’.

Such an embarrassingly poor operation down there these days.

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I too got a 'wish you were here' holiday type postcard. The PR machine must have burnt the midnight oil thinking that one up. There was no mention of prices on the postcard neither. At one time they sent a pack out with every base covered such as direct debit forms.

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